Finally a crack in the wall and we see the light

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  1. HBendor

    HBendor New Member

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    Finally a crack in the wall and we see the light coming through.
    Abbas has been elected for a few years... yet he sits like a tyrant dictator on a chair he should have vacated years ago. The pieces are slowly finding its connections in the Arab world of fantasy! HB




    Official: PLO members consider disbanding PA
    Published yesterday (updated) 19/04/2014 21:58
    http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=691203

    BETHLEHEM (Ma'an) -- The PLO has been considering the option of disbanding
    the Palestinian Authority in response to the apparent failure of the current
    round of peace talks with Israel, a Palestinian official said Saturday.

    PLO Executive Committee member Hanna Amira told Ma'an that there were
    "scenarios ... that could lead to the disbandment of the PA."

    "The future of the PA has become unclear because when it was established, it
    was meant as a temporary stage leading to the establishment of a Palestinian
    state," Amira said.

    "Thus, if the PA doesn't lead to statehood, things should be reviewed."

    Amira's comments come after the Israeli daily newspaper Maariv quoted Abbas
    as threatening to disband the PA.

    "I don't need Netanyhau. I don't need a chief of staff. Give me a junior
    officer or even a lieutenant and I will deliver the PA keys to him. Here you
    are, take charge and I will leave in an hour," Maariv quoted Abbas as
    saying.

    Amira said that Abbas' words reflect the fact that the idea of disbanding
    the PA is being discussed among PLO committee members.

    Separately, Amira told Ma'an that the PLO Central Council would hold an
    important meeting next Saturday.

    "It will be a decisive session because it comes only two days before the
    agreed-upon nine-month round of talks (with Israel) comes to an end," he
    said.

    Some critics of Israeli-Palestinian negotiations say that 20 years after the
    Oslo Accords, it is time to dismantle the PA and force Israel to take full
    responsibility for the territory it occupies.

    Peace talks between Israelis and Palestinians were relaunched in July under
    the auspices of the US after nearly three years of impasse.

    Israel's government has announced the construction of thousands of settler
    housing units and its army has killed over 60 Palestinians in the West Bank
    and Gaza since the negotiations began
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    IMRA - Independent Media Review and Analysis

    Since 1992 providing news and analysis on the Middle East with a focus on Arab-Israeli relations

    Website: www.imra.org.il
     
  2. Trinnity

    Trinnity Banned

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    We should stop sending the Palestinians money.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He was threatening to do this before the peace talks came up. It should though as you say have been done years ago. Israel will be seen for being responsible for the situation the Palestinians are in - like withholding their money with she currently intends on doing. Will go well with BDS and approaching the ICC.
     
  4. moon

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    False. Abbas's term as President ended in January, 2009. Since then he has been propped up as an unelected puppet President by the US and Israel both of whom- despite the nonsense opening statements of this thread- saw him as a tame alternative to the legally-elected government of Hamas which won the elections by a landslide.
     
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    yes, disband the PA and let Israel take control again.

    Israel is the Occupying Power of the West Bank and theyr have ultimate responsibility for the land and all its people.
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When, oh, when will the Palestinians free themselves from the European Jews and Arab Muslims who have occupied their lands ?!
    Palestine belongs to the Palestinians - not to the Jews who call it Israel or to the Muslims who call it Al Quds.
    The Muslim, Christian, and Jews of Palestine are the only rightful owners of that land.
    Free Palestine !
     
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    You may as well ask- when will all of mankind free itself from the divisive opiates of religion.

    ' Al Quds ' is Jerusalem, incidentally, although either is acceptable as the city is designated international territory under the auspices of UNGAR Resolution 181.
     
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    Nice to see antisemites in hysteria. Go on with this circus..
     
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    Either way, the Palestinians have been screwed over by Arabs and Europeans for decades. The Jews, Christians, and Muslims of Palestine were doing fine from time immemorial before the Zionists invaded.
     
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    You mean ' anti-Zionists '. Get used to it. You'll be getting a call from the International Courts unless you comply with the law.
     
  11. HBendor

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    You would not know "Zionism" if it fell like a ton of bricks on your big toe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Zionism is a movement, a political movement if you will... this Political movement's slogan is the return of the Jews to their "MotherLand" this is Zionism... no more no less...
     
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    I agree!
     
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    We need a Peace Partner or nothing (this is my choice) I want them to do nothing but swear allegiance to the Flag of Israel or go elsewhere... they can be like the Israeli Arabs represented in the Knesset or leave period... they cannot have the cake and eat it too.
     
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    I don't disagree that this is what Zionism is. But here's the problem - the Asheknazi and North African Jews who constitute half of the Jews in Israel today are not semetic. They are just Jews by faith. The Israelities of the Bible never really left the region and went into parts of Africa and Europe - there is no evidence of this. They just remained there and converted to Islam or Christianity or paid the jizya to the Muslim caliphate. They eventually renamed themselves the Palestinians.
     
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    Zionism is a national jewish movement. This is why antisemites cannot hide their antisemitic ears using the word "antizionist".
     
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    Unsure what you are meaning here. You are saying you want a one state solution but somehow it has to be just for Jews? Is that what you are saying? I know the far right in Israel want a one state solution but one in which Palestinians will be 2nd class citizens. Is that what you are meaning? What do you mean by the Israeli Flag? Is it for a state for all it's citizens with equal rights?

    What on earth are you talking about about having a cake and eating it. The Palestinians have very few crumbs, no cake.

    Anyway say a bit more on what you are imagining so that I can get an idea if it is likely to be possible.
     
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    Do you really think that these stupid threats make israelis don't sleep at night?
     
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    For somebody who, by their own statement, doesn't know what Zionism is your dismissal of international law is laughable.

    Take a free lesson; ' anti-Zionism' does not mean opposition to Judaism. It means opposition to ethnic cleansers and their illegal occupation.
     
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    the Occupation is legal and has been far from genocidal.

    folks like you who engage in massive & extreme hyperbole and exagerations don't help the Palestinian cause one bit. In fact, folks like you HURT it.

    makes me wonder if you're a Poe.
     
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    OK again as you put this in. Here is an article in a Chicago paper only three days old suggesting ways in which a one state solution could be created. http://www.suntimes.com/news/otherv...r-palestinians-and-israelis.html#.U1P9glc3Oct

    It is written from the Palestinian perspective, what the author believes they should do.

    His credentials

    same link.

    What do you think?
     
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    Ronstar

    Palestine is an internationally-recognised State. It's occupation by non-Palestinians couldn't be anything other than illegal.

    Don't get personal with me. One free pass.
     
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    I just should state that you are incapable to read my posts. I've written zionism, and not "christian zionism".
    You can perfectly create your "moon zionism".
     
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    Israel conquered the West Bank in a defensive war against Jordan.

    According to the Geneva Conventions, Israel is the legal occupying power of the West Bank.

    what is illegal, are their jewish settlements on land confiscated from pivate property in the West Bank.

    The Palestinian population of Israel has grown exponentially, as has the Palestinian population of the West Bank.

    That's not genocide, and any suggestion of genocide is ignorant and absurd.
     
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    It has nothing to do with judaism, but means anti-jewish. By another word - antisemitic.
    Those who are against jewish national movement are antisemites.
     

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