AWESOME- Unborn child has inalienable RIGHT TO LIFE- AL Supreme Court

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  1. sec

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    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/un...ight-to-life-at-all-stages-of-development-ala

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    According to Justice Tom Parker, who wrote the majority decision, “It is impossible for an unborn child to be a separate and distinct person at a particular point in time in one respect and not to be a separate and distinct person at the same point in time but in another respect. Because an unborn child has an inalienable right to life from its earliest stages of development, it is entitled not only to a life free from the harmful effects of chemicals at all stages of development but also to life itself at all stages of development. Treating an unborn child as a separate and distinct person in only select respects defies logic and our deepest sense of morality.”

    what an awesome statement by the jurist. Anyone being honest will admit that from conception that life does exist. We also know that it's human life as DNA would confirm. Hopefully, this will be the first step in changing how we as a nation treat life.
     
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    Fetuses have the exact same right to life as any other person.

    That right does not include the right to enslave the body of another person against their will in order to ensure their own survival.
     
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    cool, now feel free to read how the justices disagree with you
     
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    one would think that when the mother engaged in coitus she would know that there is a chance of her becoming pregnant. I have often found it confusing that a person can be convicted of 2 homicides if they kill a pregnant woman but abortionists kill thousand of babies every day when performing convenience abortions
     
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    Great decision! Abortion is nothing more than birth control.
     
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    more to the point it is birth control for the stupid, the lazy and the undisciplined.
     
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    Exactly! You hit the nail on the head when it comes to typical progressive thinking. They want it both ways.
     
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    So you are wanting the precedent established that if someone gives consent for their body to be used by another person, they cannot withdraw consent later?
     
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    Yes. If only the pain came before the pleasure there would be less abortions.
     
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    That old chestnut again?

    Noone is "enslaved". The correct word you were looking to avoid was responsibility.

    If you put yourself into the situation where you could create a child, that's on you. Your poor decisions have "enslaved" you.

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    It's not a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing netflix show where you can just decide it wasnt for you and tune out. What a ridiculous statement. A human life hangs in the balance.
     
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    if you read the decision, they were dealing with a charge against the "mother" for taking drugs during her pregnancy. The judges wrestled with how can they protect life only in a few cases. Doesn't life deserve protection in all instances? Fortunately, they ruled with common sense.
     
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    I think the precedent is fair that once somebody creates a human being whose life depends on them, they cannot later rescind that because they created the situation where the baby's life is dependent on theirs. Your heartless theory is akin to a rescue helicopter dropping a rescue line and then when the rescued person has grabbed the line and is being lifted up, cutting that line and killing the person.
     
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    1. So if I need a kidney or I will die and you are my only match, can I force you to give up your kidney against your will to ensure my survival?

    2. So if a woman is having sex (gives consent for the use of her body to another person) and decides she no longer wants to have sex, you would have her be forced to continue? If you are being logically consistent, you just say yes. If you say she should be allowed to withdraw her consent, then why can she not do that in the case of a fetus and it's use of her body?
     
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    if you are referring to the Amanda Davis ruling it is apples and oranges because while I agree with the Davis ruling I cannot condone murder of an unborn child either
     
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    read the decision

    it addresses all life and that includes the unborn child. read the decision
     
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    If a child (who is already born) needs a kidney and the mother is the only possible donor should she be forced to give up her kidney against her will?
     
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    Except that this article is not about abortion. Try again.
     
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    Alabama Supreme Court Rules

    unborn child has inalienable right to life

    what part of that are you not understanding?
     
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    We arent talking about a kidney...save your usual game of smokescreen questions. This question has no relevance to the topic, except for you to try and cloud the issue and save face.

    More useless questions, thats always your MO when you get called out for saying stupid things. We arent talking about rape either...we're talking about a human life, which someone took all the steps and risks to create....and then somehow get to say..nah, too inconvenient.
    You cannot always make a silly parrallel to something else, because not everything else has the same weight as a human life.
     
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    But you can condone depriving women of the ownership of their bodies?
     
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    you can try to muddy the water all you want and the murder of a human is still murder
     
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    it's about the INALIENABLE right to life of the unborn child

    so, abortion is denying the unborn child that right to life

    3,2,1.................go
     
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    how can you deprive a human of their life
     
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    It's usually you on the Left who preach that no rights are absolute. When a woman creates a life, she has the obligation to sustain that life.
     
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    The entire abortion debate boils down to one essential question:

    Does the government have the right to deprive a person of the ownership and control of their bodies in order to ensure the survival of another person?

    Whether it is a fetus or a kidney, the question applies. I am on the side that slavery is wrong.
     
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