Ukraine civil war started 24.04.14 12-00.

http://rusvesna.su/news/1398329425
Slovyansk an important transport center that was barricated and controlled by the rebels against kievan jusnta is attacked by an unknown special force and some "peace-keepers' 2 hours ago. The battle is going at the outskirts of the town. At least 2 rebels are shot dead. The attack of special forces was covered by 2 attack helicopters.

The video lacks action, but this is a video of a starting fire at the outskirts. I will to gather the information about it here. Because it seems that it is the start of bigger events. So every bit of news might be interesting or decisive for the history.
[video=youtube;oSFko5OGP74]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSFko5OGP74[/video]

 

He from the one side and attack helicopters with APCs and mercenaries from the other... Would you for the moment bet for on of the sides?

 

It seems USA political action are based on deliberate lies or on real ignorance. Here is example from today's MSNBC News article:
...Obama complained that militias and armed men continue to take over government buildings in Ukraine in defiance of Ukrainian authorities. Pro-Russian insurgents have been especially active in eastern Ukraine in the aftermath of Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Crimean peninsula. Under an agreement struck last week in Geneva, Russia had agreed to take steps to defuse the tensions.

Why Russia sent so many old women "insurgents"? Those people with barricades are locals, not insurgents and they do not want to respect "authorities" planted in Kiev by EU. Does Obama tried to find out the truth before imposing his silly sanctions? This is really disappointing. Judging by earlier statements of acting politicians in USA, this is a deliberate lie aimed at American public poorly familiar or disinterested with real situations in other countries.

 

More action.

The rebels side tells that the attack was conducted by 10 APCs under cover of 2 attack helicopters. They occupied the armored entrance to the city that was controlled by the rebels (or Putin's agents if you need). The group of junta soldiers landed there 'took food and medicines and left'. The light armed rebels had to retreat first but now they are reporting about getting to the initial positions.

Strange.

 

Kiev military op: Ukrainian army tanks, troops attempt to enter defiant Slavyansk


http://rt.com/news/154544-slavyansk-fighting-east-ukraine/

 

The kievan junta media reports about 5 terrorists killed. It says that the 'anti-terrorist operation' troops made a breakthrough at the outskirts and went into the city. So the first contradiction is already happened.

 

http://rusvesna.su/news/1398330975

The news from rebels side call the side of rebels "Donetsk republic". I think that it is not yet approved by UN but people already die for it. They tell that the town is under control of Donetsk republic and 'all the APC's of Donetsk republic are damaged'. Most probably they meant the APC's that were given away by Ukrainian troops that were to attack the rebels previously but didn't obey the junta orders. This explains what was the need to attack.

It's kind of a 'bite and run' action, a typical for anglo-saxon war schooling operation of armed reconaissance. It shows what kind of troops will take part in the operation and where from they will start it. So the rebels should better arm with anti-air guns to shoot down helicopters...

 

http://mvs.gov.ua/mvs/control/main/ru/publish/article/1034335
Self claimed ministry of internal affairs in Kiev reported about anti-terrorist operation. "5 separatists were killed." From the side of anti-separatists war organisations only one is wounded.
This information is proved by Donetsk republic media, who tell about 2 attacks at the outskirts of the town. The road to Svetlogorsk (3 killed) was reported to have shots from the side of the forest. And the Donetsk republic militia is now looking for those who shot. A second attack was made with the help of helicopters and APCs. (2 killed and all the Donetsk republic APCs are out of order). The attack was made from the side of a major road to Kharkov.

My God. Half a year ago these guys were living just the way I lived up to now...

 

[video=youtube;ureQblDiJwY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ureQblDiJwY#t=15[/video]

 

The rebels spread the information about a big division of russian army that is on the march from Rostov to Mariupol. The photo looks like it.


Putin however in the interview told a mysterious thing. He told that "the decision of a punishment of ukraine citizens with the use of an army is a serious crime and those who made will be responsible for it." Maybe my english is really not that good but I cannot understand in Russian if Putin spoke of kievan junta or of J.Baiden who was there recently.

 

Finally, better late than never, it's high time for Ukraine to roll up their sleeves and root out pro russian criminals, terrorists, traitors, stalinists. Those who want to be part of Russia can pack up and go live in Russia, no one is holding them back.

 

Do not worry. Joe Baiden is safe, but the Junta (the Maidans) have a good reason to worry. They have never been elected or inherited their position in power. They have been planted by EU and NATO, both a foreign forces in Ukraine.

 

they will have elections soon, free and fair, something you Russians can't possibly understand and appreciate. Oh and Crimeans will NOT vote. Meanwhile the job of the temporary government is to preserve Ukraine's territorial integrity, crack down on traitors, criminals, Russian military subversive elements...and organize fair and free elections. The current Ukrainian government is finally doing its job, one would hope.

 

Your English is quite good and very clear. You are right about what Vladski said regarding this "serious crime", and I'll add a link here so that skeptics can read it for themselves: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27138300

While Obama is busy sucking up $500 plates of sushi in Japan, Vladimir Putin is going to come to the rescue of Russians in eastern Ukraine. Does anyone seriously doubt that...?

 

Nazi attacked pro russian candidate ...


[video=youtube;V8pjJGD9N7M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8pjJGD9N7M[/video]

 

Is it any different from how you Russians deal with traitors and separatists? Oh, it actually is, you torture them, murder them, you in fact wipe out entire towns and villages of traitors and separatists including women and children, like in Chechnya, don't you?

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Is it any different from how you Russians deal with traitors and separatists? Oh, it actually is, you torture them, murder them, you in fact wipe out entire towns and villages of traitors and separatists including women and children, like in Chechnya, don't you?

 

Shares in body bag companies ought to rocket. Who makes them ? Could it be the same throwbacks who make the ammunition ?

 

A Romanian on another forum suggested that the only way that Ukraine could remain united, avoid Russian invasion and massive bloodshed would be if thousands of troops went in where necessary, totally unarmed and were prepared to die if necessary. Many would die he suggested but Ukraine would win.

 

But if the country empties out, who will do the work?

 

Russia is not going to allow the Bandera 'supremacists' to kill civilians in Ukraine, so it's army will be rolling in by the end of the day. By now they have probably rooted out the British Intelligence and CIA troublemakers who were trying to turn Ukraine into another Syria, so the casualties will probably remain at a minimum.

 

Thanks for an illustration and contribution to the theme. It is speaking for itself better than videos and photos. I called this theme civil war for a good reason.

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Noone who start such a civil war is safe.

 

There was no elections yet and you already consider them to be free and safe? That tells a lot about your opinion and liberties on coming elections.

BTW. Yanukovich in february agreed to held free before-the-time elections... With the signed afrement of european ministers. On condition that there would be no violence from the side of maidowns... What would interfere with the sponsors and the executioners of february turnover in Kiev to agree on the alternative? I think that this is exactly what was planned from the beginning. The sponsors and the so-called leaders started a coup just in order to kill some wrong ukrainians which are not ukrainian enough in a civil war and to provoke Russia for war.

 

Oh my gosh then, the tanks and helicopters can't be from Kiev, they must be from Russia?

 

I myself don't trust Tsarev. I think that he is a part of the political show. But to my mind such activities should have been at least receive a negative assesment from the current junta in Kiev. That would ar least make some people a small reason to hope that coming elections can be free.

 

)) For now the spec ops with the help of gunship helicopter approached the position of who they consider to be terrorists, killed a couple of young guys (an 18-year-old is too young to die whatever is his nationality and citizenship) and... left. If they act on political order it's a criminal political power, if they act without - it's a ctiminal political power...