Remember Brutal Deliberate Israeli Attack on USS Liberty

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  1. Munkle

    Munkle Active Member

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    In 2007 the Chicago Tribune reported on the surviving crew of the USS Liberty and wrote:

    Former Chief of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Navy Admiral Thomas Moorer concluded in his investigation:

    Admiral Moorer also said:

    Admiral Thomas Moorer
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    The UK Guardian reports:

    Chicago Tribune story, 2007: "New revelations in attack on American spy ship - chicagotribune.com"

    Israeli recon planes circled the ship for 6 hours on a clear morning, knowing it was an American ship and knowing it was the Liberty.. In the 3 hour attack that followed, rounds meant for tanks punched through the thin steel hull like tissue paper, and slaughtered men deep inside their living quarters.

    One Israeli pilot who refused to carry out the mission as arrested upon landing, and later spoke with Congressman Pete McClosky:

    Why did Israel do it? At the time, Israel was engaged in the 1967 war against Egypt. The BBC documentary Dead in the Water asserts, in its official press release, that the attack was:

    The plan went awry because the Liberty was supposed to sink with all hands and leave no witnesses. In short, the heroism of the crew which fought fires and damage, even while wounded, prevented the ship from sinking, and perhaps prevented WWIII. Russia had promised to defend Egypt, and reports are that LBJ was sending nuclear tipped warheads on planes to Cairo.

    The USS Liberty attack, in which 32 American sailors were killed by Israeli warplanes and gunboats, which was later deemed to be an "accident" by a congressional investigation, is still arousing controversy. The survivors are still calling for a new investigation so they can get justice while they live.

    On this Memorial Day, call your congressman for a new investigation. Let the surviving crew members of the USS Liberty know that they are not forgotten.

    Official survivors' page: USS Liberty Memorial

    Admiral Thomas Moorer, "A fair probe would attack Liberty misinformation," Stars and Stripes, January 16, 2004

    USS Liberty Survivor Phil Tourney
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    Rare Photos taken by crew posted at official USS Liberty survivors website www.gtr5.com

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  2. Denizen

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    The USA government's response to this massacre is a disgrace. The likes of John McCain are traitors to the military by their failure to acknowledge the massacre.
     
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    Every veteran should be standing up for their brothers, demanding congress start a new investigation.. Of course if the truth comes out that it was deliberate what would that do to "US-Israeli relations?"
     
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    That crook LBJ was behind the whole thing.
     
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    Israel attack the USA more often than they fight alongside the USA!
     
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    It wold increase the payments from Israel to USA politicians to maintain their loyalty to Israel over that to USA.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why honor our soldiers when we can instead bash Jews.
     
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    Liberty, similar to Pueblo was commandeered by the CIA and the USN had no say about their personnel being but in harms way with no cover.

    My Uncle almost got caught in a similar fiasco during the Eisenhower presidency.
    The battleship he was on was ordered to go, alone, and shell mainland China.
    The navy wives including my aunt blew the whistle and forced the battleship's recall.

    Also, remember, before the 6 Day War the American government was not a partner with Israel.
    The American government observed the Arab boycott and what weapons Israel did not make it purchased from France (Phantom jets) or Czechoslovakia (as the USSR's weapon sales) at inflated prices.
    Under these circumstances it is foolish to believe Israel would view an American spy ship as a neutral.
    After the 6 Day War and via the NIXON presidency, the American government and Israel have been closer than ever before and since NIXON have drifted apart.

    Don't blame Israel. (Liberty)
    Don't blame North Korea. (Pueblo)
    Blame the American Intelligence community

    that is allowed to commandeer military hardware
    without regard for the personnel as a military service would maintain.



    Moi :oldman:




    No :flagcanada:
     
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    Criticizing an Israeli attack against "our soldiers" = bashing Jews?
     
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    No one is "bashing" Jews, as far as I can tell.
     
  11. Texan

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    Criticizing an Israeli attack as a way of celebrating Memorial day = bashing Jews.

    I have a relative killed in the Bataan Death March. Should I honor him by attacking Japanese people?
     
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    How are you "attacking Japanese people" by discussing an attack their country made upon US soldiers?
     
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    No, equating criticism of Israel with bashing Jews is simply a standard tactic for shutting down criticism of Israel. It's like saying that attacking the American government and the CIA for Iran-Contra is "bashing Americans."

    Memorial Day is not a "celebration." It is a remembrance. The sailors of the USS Liberty were our brothers and fathers too. They deserve justice.
     
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    You can't reason with crazy people. And Anti-Semites are among the most mentally damaged of the bunch.

    This should be kicked down to the Conspiracy Theory section where it belongs.
     
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    For those that do not get it, this is what Memorial Day is about...

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    If you want to use it as a way to attack others, kindly do so on the other 364 days. Nobody else wants to hear it.
     
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    Very well stated.
     
  17. Munkle

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    LOL you ignore the overwhelming conclusive facts and testimony that the attack was deliberate, deploy nothing but an ad hom attack, and actually use the word "reason." How is that reason?
     
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    The 32 fallen sailors of the Liberty were American servicemen too. What about them?

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    OK, my filter is going on high now, I do not want to get banned because of what I am about to say.

    But what does Memorial Day have to do with the USS Liberty?

    Yea, not a damned thing. If you and others want to jump around screaming at the "Dirty Jews" who killed people, then fine. Make one, there have been many in here and they mostly get kicked down to the Conspiracy Theory section where they belong, or ignored in here by most who are not Ru-Paul supporters.

    Memorial Day is to honor those who have paid the ultimate price for our country. Not trying to attack others.

    Of course, you are also a zealot, a racist, and an all-around loonie from what I can see already, so what you have to think or say really does not matter to me. You can try to justify it all you want, but it still all boils down to you are using an incident to try and hijack this area of the forum to do nothing but attack others.

    It is inappropriate, unwanted, and pretty disgusting.

    Have a nice day.
     
  20. Munkle

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    You are the most intellectually dishonest commenter so far. Where are the words "dirty Jews" or even "Jews" besides you just having pulled them out of your hat? Then you throw in racist for good measure..

    The fallen servicemen of the USS Liberty were our soldiers like all the rest. That's what it has to do with Memorial Day. They deserve justice, just as every single Liberty survivor is calling for. Are they anti-semites because they won't just shut up and die?

    People who can't handle ugly truths, for which the facts are overwhelming, tend to go crazy when they hear them. Those are the truly insane.

    Have a good one, hear?
     
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    Shangrila staff Past Donor

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    Flame bait title edited. Please kindly remain respectful.
    Thank you for your cooperation

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    Where did anyone "bash Jews?"
     
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    It is no conspiracy theory, it is history. Do you know the difference?
     
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    Memorial Day is not about attacking our past enemies. It's about remembering our fallen heroes. I don't care if your talking about Hitler himself, that's not what the holiday is about. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying that the people you mention don't deserve criticism, I'm saying that invoking Memorial Day in your attack is disrespectful of those we are supposed to remember.
     
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    The sailors of the USS Liberty were our fallen heroes too, much as you would like to exclude them from your pantheon. Their deaths are dishonored so long as we live the official lie that the attack was an "accident." Remembering our heroes also means remembering the circumstances in which they died. That supposed "ally" is collecting $3 billion is US aid every year to this day, while adhering to the official lie and dishonoring our sailors' deaths. Rememberance of a lie is has no honor and is no remembrance.

    A new investigation which acknowledges truthfully that the USS Liberty sailors died in a deliberate attack by an ally is perfectly appropriate for Memorial Day. Memorial Day is not only about remembrance, it is about honor.
     

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