Why Does Christian Persecution Get Worse In Every Country The U.S. “Liberates”?

When the U.S. military “liberates” a nation, shouldn’t it result in more liberty, freedom and peace for the people living there? Instead, we find just the opposite. In fact, in every single case since 9/11, when the U.S. military has “liberated” a nation it has resulted in the persecution of Christians in that country becoming much worse.

In areas where we spent hundreds of billions of dollars and where thousands of precious American lives were sacrificed, churches are regularly being bombed, Christians are being brutally beheaded, and laws have been passed to make it illegal for a Muslim to convert to Christianity. If we were not even able to provide the most basic of liberties and freedoms to the people living in those nations, what in the world did we actually accomplish by “liberating” them?

Just look at what has happened in Afghanistan. We have been at war in Afghanistan for more than a dozen years, and yet things are so bad for Christians in that country at this point that there is not a single church left…


The supposedly “moderate” Karzai government installed by the U.S. upholds many of the draconian laws enforced by the Taliban—including the apostasy law, fiercely persecuting those who seek to convert to Christianity—and, in 2011, under U.S. auspices, it destroyed Afghanistan’s last Christian church.

We find a similar story in Iraq. It is estimated that before the invasion, there were up to 2 million Christians living in Iraq. Now that number is down to less than 450,000, and it is falling fast.

In fact, things are so dire for Iraq’s Christian community that some Iraqi Christian leaders are warning that Christians may soon become “extinct” in that nation…

This kind of tyranny should not be tolerated in today’s world.

But instead, the U.S. government seems to be helping to spread it.

http://www.infowars.com/why-does-christian-persecution-get-worse-in-every-country-the-u-s-liberates/

It is ironic and disturbing, to say the very least, many of the strongest advocates for intervention and spreading democracy globally resulting in the installing of regimes which persecute Christians, are actually American Christians. Some may not pay attention. Some may not just realize and others may just not care. But, the ironic thing is, Christians are actually, even though indirectly, supporting the persecution of Christians when they beat the drums for intervention. I don’t know how any Christian could in good conscience support policies and a foreign policy which aids and supports those who persecute Christians and other civilians.

 

And how are things "worse"? In Afghanistan in 2001, conversion to anything other then Islam was apostasy and subject to death. Proselytizing was also subject to death.

And the only "Christian Church in Afghanistan" being destroyed in 2011? I would absolutely love to see a reference to that. As far as I am aware, the only "Christian Church" is a Catholic Chapel, that has been in the Italian Embassy since 1919. The only other one was built in 1959 with the permission of the ruler for use by the diplomatic corps, at the request of President Eisenhower.

That church was destroyed in the opening of the 1973 coup, and never rebuilt.

Next time, try doing some actual research. Anything from an Alex Jones site pretty much be definition becomes pure conspiracy theory fodder. I did take the time to check the sources of the Alex Jones website however... here it is:

http://www.charismanews.com/world/32161-christian-churches-officially-extinct-in-afghanistan

No reference, and a statement which tells me that this individual has absolutely no connection with reality.

A decrease in religious freedom, when compared to the Taliban?

Those laws are absolutely nothing new, they have existed for a thousand years and more. This is pretty universal among any nation that recognizes Islam as a State Religion. Sudan, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, nothing new here. Conversion from Islam is illegal and Apostasy.

You do not want to believe in religious freedom however, you want a holy war. And if somebody really believes in religious freedom, they should also recognize the freedom of another nation to have a state religion.

 

You are making a rather sectarian point that Christians are more important than Muslims. UKIP leader Nigel Farage made this argument in the UK about Syria, that Christians should allowed to move to the UK but the Muslims because the Christians are under greater threat. A rather sectarian argument which makes no sense given the number of Muslims who has does and forced to lead their homes.

I called myself a Protestant Classical Liberal, surely it would be better for Orthodox Christians to move to Greece and Russia?

 

Probably because whenever the US "liberates" a country (post-WWII), there seems to be a big resentment toward Americans and anything western., so they take it out on the group most closely associated with Americans, which in middle eastern countries, is the Christians.

 

That might make sense - if they had not already been doing that for over a thousand years even before the US was a country in the first place.

Apostasy has been a crime against Islam for over 1,400 years. So how you can claim the US has anything to do with that?

 

I only mention it because the title of the thread it "Why Does Christian Persecution Get Worse In Every Country The U.S. “Liberates”?" And to be fair, the Inquisition and the witch hunts have shown that the Christians are not totally innocent either.

 

funny. I hear about christian plight all the time on NPR but they'll have you beleive the "liberal" media will ignore it. life for everyone gets worst in countries we liberate not just christians

 

CIA statistics show Mooslamics persecute Christians...

9 of 10 Worst Countries for Persecution of Christians Have 50% or Greater Muslim Populations
January 8, 2015 – Nine of the 10 countries with the worst records for persecution of Christians have populations that are at least 50 percent Muslim, according to the assessment of persecution in the Open Doors USA's World Watch List (WWL) 2015 and population information published by the State Department and the Central Intelligence Agency.

 

From my objective view, muslems see the Christians as allies of the West, and thus they fall victim of persecution.

 

the US does not protect such minorities...

especially it is a big loss the Aramaic language the language spoken by Jesus

 

The attacks on Christians (and Jews) is not over some misplaced hatred of America.

Lately, when the US "liberates" one of these nations (like Libya) it leaves a destabilized system which lets the crazies run loose. All of the countries the US has liberated lately have large muslim populations, muslims have hated and killed Christians and Jews from the very creation of Islam.

 

there are protection letters by Muhamed pbuh for Christians

why exist still huge Minorities in the Middle-East, if it would be like you say there would not survive 1400 Years...


even ISIS does not care much about christians... their maing Goal is to kill Yazidis, and Shias

 

It's because a government like the United States that potentially changes foreign policy directions every four to eight years can never do this the way in which it needs to be done. Even if one administration sets out to do it correctly the next administration frequently alters enough of the original plan to make the original intent (if the original intent was both good and practical) meaningless.

Afghanistan and Iraq needed to have been secured from border to border with ruthless efficiency and then a quasi permanent protectorate installed for freaking decades to follow so that gradually over time the ideals and structure of a democratic republic form of government and NECESSARY supporting culture could be hammered PERMANENTLY into place. This was not done. This will never be done, because of the frequency that this nation reverses or simply alters part or all of its foreign policy structure and plans every four to eight years.

 

Actually, that's been the plan all along - interventionism is promoted by those who love war because it brings more war profits.


As I have said in this forum enough times, if you want peace, then impose a 100% excess profits tax on all wars.

 

ahh US nearly bankrupted under bush, therefore Obama could not continue Bush Policies...

Yok Para Yok

 

No, that's not the real reason why since the national debt was 11 trillion by the time that Bush sleazed out of office but it is now pushing 19 trillion under Obama . . . and so he's found PLENTY of things to spend money on . . . even if the permanently in-the-tank-for-Obama mainstream media is pretending that it's not happening beneath their very noses.

 

Answer too your question is simply prophecy. The United States will no longer be in just a few short years. Obama became President and has not been impeached for His crimes because it is Prophecy being fulfilled on a daily basis.
The only chance and that is if God would give us another chance, is to take America out of the hands of the politicians and for the Church to take over. Muslims, Atheist, Gays and Lesbians did not bring this Great Country into what it was, but about 56 God fearing God loving MEN!

 

Obama made just such debts to save General Motors and he needed money prevent a economical meltdown. Bush left him Sowiet Union 1989 Scenario.

 

Hahahahaha! Thanks; I needed a laugh.

 

That's right - time for the Unitarians to take over ... that is what you meant, right?

Uhhh, Greek Orthodox?

Mormons?

New Wave Christians?

Mount Zion Christians?

Oh, The Little Church of the Mountains Christians would be good leaders. No?

 

it will never be done cause it will cost trillions of dollars and millions of US lives and the result just aint worth anything to us. So we'll just sit on our butts until a mushroom cloud rises over NYC and the entire US economy is destroyed by it. Instead of doing the only thing that will work. That is the neutron bombing of every major Muslim city.

 

Why Does Christian Persecution Get Worse In Every Country The U.S. “Liberates”?

Because it unleashes the Islamic beliefs of the people that were previously restrained by secular governments enforcing western ideals regarding religious freedoms.

 

This was according to Muhamed's so called protection letters.

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

 

Answer to the question is simple:

A)
The USA backed Israel since the beginning and this alone cause hostilities at Muslim people. If reasoned or not is another point and is backed by much propaganda on both sides.
But it is not only the backing of Israel alone, the USA ignored during cold war all kind of human rights and democracy everywhere, as far as the leaderships of the countries declare to be 100% Anti-Communism! So the worst dictators and bloody regimes around the world were backed by the USA and these depressed people do not forget this. Example? Iran when under control of the Shah ... and this bloody dictator and regime was backed by the USA (the CIA, as well US Military!). Further ... people fast forget fact that USA backed Saddam and the good friend in Washington in his War against these Mullah's in Iran too ... until he conquered Kuwait. Although, don't forget the sot down Iranian Airbus by the US Navy! Any wondering about the hate against the USA in Iran?

B)
If the USA went into war since end of WW-2, they act latest since Vietnam like a bull in the China shop during war, bomb the *peep* out of their enemies but have not a spark of working plan for after the war ... not to say to understand and handle local difficulties really! Example: Iraq 2003! Iraqi Army defeated in weeks, but going to war without any plan for the time after as usual!
“Funny” is that the Christians were save and respected in general under Saddam, but the big USA were unable to protect them or even to hinder any growing hate against them!

So aside some general intolerance existing, Christians are the victim out of the reason, that the short thinking propaganda people make the short form: Christians = supporter of the West = West = USA!

 

In many middle eastern countries, Christian minorities managed to survive by supporting the local dictator and making themselves useful to them. Naturally when the dictator is eliminated the majority, especially if they suffered serious oppression by the dictator take out their anger on the Christian minority.