No Drug Tests For Food Stamp Recipients, Feds Tell Georgia

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    No Drug Tests For Food Stamp Recipients, Feds Tell Georgia

    The Huffington Post | By Arthur Delaney | Posted: 06/03/2014 5:59 pm ED
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    WASHINGTON --"The federal government has put the state of Georgia on formal notice that it can't make poor people take drug tests when they apply for food stamps.

    In April, Gov. Nathan Deal (R) signed a law requiring the state to test any food stamp applicants suspected of being on drugs starting in 2016. The U.S. Department of Agriculture told the Georgia Department of Human Services on Tuesday that states can't make up new eligibility standards for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, so drug tests are a no-no.

    "Requiring SNAP applicants and recipients to pass a drug test in order to receive benefits would constitute an additional condition of eligibility, and therefore, is not allowable under law," regional USDA administrator Robin Bailey said in the letter.

    Last year, Republicans in Congress tried but failed to give states the power to screen SNAP applicants. Drug test proposals for all manner of safety net programs have been popular with Republicans in recent years despite a dearth of evidence that welfare users are drug abusers.

    Some forms of drug testing are allowed for the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program, which, like food stamps, is a federal program administered by states. But overly broad proposals, like one in Florida, have been rejected by the courts.

    In 2012, Georgia lawmakers approved a TANF drug-testing law modeled on Florida's, but it was never implemented because of constitutional concerns."

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/03/food-stamps-drug-test_n_5440742.html
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    IMO: In their extreme bias against the poor who must rely on food stamps to feed their children, the state of Georgia has instituted a mandatory drug testing of every recipient of food stamps, but the federal government has informed them that it is unconstitutional and has turned it down.

    The war against food stamp recipients continues and will be tried in most other states that have republican governors as they run to accede to the wishes of the republican 'Boss' rather than the poor in America.

    Perhaps if the republicans would create some jobs with livable salaries, there wouldn't be the need for any unconstitutional drug testing of those who apply for food stamps. We are getting closer to a police state where poor people will not be allowed any benefits because they are poor; that they will not be allowed to vote because of the color of their skin and their lack of ability to speak English.
     
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    These are just unelected obama flunkies who do not represent the American people.
     
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    Only the right prefers to deny and disparage Individual Liberty while decrying cost of social programs.

     
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    Awesome. Non-working druggies need their liquor money goven to them, too.

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    Alcohol cannot be bought with foodstamps. A lot of liquor stores also sell basic groceries like milk, juice, pop and snacks. Some even serve meats and produce.
     
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    Why deny and disparage Individual Liberty; ebt cards should be good with financial planners as well.
     
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    Once again with the Lies, is that you simply cannot keep yourself from repeating them over and over? Many of those that get food stamps are working people, including servicemen and women.
     
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    Pretty sad that conservatives complain about costs of welfare but then are willing to spend millions on drug testing every welfare recipient to find that the plurality of food stamp recipients cannot afford drugs. Go (*)(*)(*)(*)ing figure.
     
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    Great.....now the government is forcing me to be a drug enabler..........great country.
     
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    In fact unless a state modifys the requirements and pays for it out of their own funds, the requirement for food stamps is that you must be working at least 20 hours a week.
     
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    When "the poor who must rely on food stamps to feed their children", spend that help on Meth or other drugs, how on Earth does that feed the kids?
     
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    I believe the left should insist on morals tests, even on a for-profit basis, and claim moral authority from a Tome on such matters.

    Job 34:30 That the hypocrite reign not, lest the people be ensnared.

    The abomination of hypocrisy can be worse than even a crack addiction.
     
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    There's an easy solution to this dilemma.

    The Sovereign State of Georgia looks at the Constitution, notes that there is NO authority therein for the federal government to run a welfare program, and shuts down all state welfare offices and stops distributing state tax dollars to the useless.

    ARRESTS all federally employed "social workers" who illegally enter private homes to kidnap children, since they have no lawful authority to act in the Sovereign State of Georgia.

    Also, note the following:

    The Sovereign State of Georgia can proclaim that people wishing to collect the STATE portion of any welfare cannot do so unless they volunteer to be drug tested. Since people have no "right" to welfare, a voluntary test for voluntary acceptance of assistance on the state level violates no constitutional edict.

    The Soveriegn State of Georgia can also inform the police of welfare volunteers who refuse testing, those people being more likely to be drug offenders than not.

    Another option is to simply stop cash payments and provide strictly monitored Michelle Obama School Lunches too all seeking food assistance from the state.
     
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    "Individual Liberty" doesn't seem to come up when Employed people are forced to submit to drug tests. Who knew you only have that when seeking a handout.
     
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    General welfare clause gives them the ability to run a welfare program.

    And the 4th amendment makes unwarranted government searches illegal.
     
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    with that sign they must also sell groceries, cause you can not buy alcohol with food stamps
     
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    Providing for the general welfare is expressly delegated to our federal Congress.
     
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    Drug testing for food stamp is idiotic. Florida tried it and it was a complete and total waste, they spent more on testing than what was recovered by denying benefits to the small percentage of people who failed the test.

    I guess if you're a fan of throwing money away it might be a good idea...
     
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    It isn't my fault many people can't tell the difference between employment for cause and employment at will.
     
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    No it doesn't That refers to the protection of commerce and the economy, and is in the PREAMBLE, not the body of the Constitution.
     
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    Not my fault people assume you give up Liberty when you're actually earning the money you need to eat, versus sitting on the couch watching Judge judy.
     
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    Of course it can't. There's just no way any liquor store owner would take $20 in food stamps and sell a $10 bottle of vodka, while fudging up some sales receipts for the record.

    That would NEVER happen.

    Here's a better idea.

    The government hands out FOOD, not stamps.

    That's so complicated. It would be just awful if the government treated beggars like beggars, wouldn't it?
     
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    You can argue that till the cows come home. But the supreme court has already ruled that it applies to welfare programs. And that's how its interpreted by our legal system. If you want to argue that it shouldn't be and that we should get the supreme court to change that that's fine. But to simply say that it doesn't is just wrong. Because that's exactly how our legal system interprets it.
     
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    Appeals to emotion are even worse. Why not get a rational argument to help some of us confide in your sincerity.

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    Quit your day job or stop complaining.
     
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    Thats how it should be handled.
     

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