"Active phase" of pro-Russian terrorist cleansing operation now underway

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukr...f-ato-continues-outside-sloviansk-350574.html

Excellent news.

With the election of the new heroic President of Ukraine, a pro-Russian terrorist cleansing operation has entered the active phase.

I would guess that most pro-Russian terrorists will have been exterminated within a month or two and that peace can finally prevail in Ukraine.

 

So all this airstrikes and tanks and artillery against cities was not enough active? What is next chemical weapon or biological pollution of water supplies?

 

It is interesting to see a civil war use many of the same tactics the Middle Eastern countries play out. No wonder no one in the western world cares what is happening...violent states are to be avoided until they grow up.

Russia included.

 

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Collateral damage is regrettable but the blame lies with Putin.

 

This brings to mind a great Billy Idol song from his album Cyberpunk:

The man who would be king
And the world stood still

Meaning that the world is just sitting on its thumbs and doesn't seem to be doing anything about this aggression.

Shameful.

 

I think you gave just perfect description of what is going on in minds of some people here. Ukrainian army made airstrike on peaceful people in the center of big city where even no martial law. But who is guilty? Of course - Putin.... "Farewell to logic".

Also just imagine that women is your mother, wife or daughter. Can you still be ok with the situation? Just "collateral damage", nothing special...

...distorted consciousness

 

Actually, it seems the world is indeed doing something, and it is working.

Things have changed from guns to banks....

 

I wander why the calls of a collective punishment of millions of Ukrainians who voted for their independence is tolerated in this forum, though in the Rule Nr. 6 they say that this is not permitted.

http://www.politicalforum.com/rules.php

 

Moderators reacts to the direct reports about violations. Under every post there is a small button looks like exclamation sign in a triangle. Use it when you see any post against the rules

 

May moderators will do so or, some of us are more equal then others?

 

1. The ukrainians did elect their president and the majority was overwhelming. So no need for independence.

2. Any referendum organized by local alcoholics and pro russians, by russian gangsters who crossed the border and other scum can be considered as an act of terrorism. Terrorism must be punished in court.

I ask all terrorists to be brought on trial and later on to get life in prison, if they do have blood on their hands.

 

- Main crime is a war against own citizens, using of artillery and airstrikes.
- A lot of bastards feels free to make crimes while region is in war situation. It doesn't mean that they are pro-Russian or pro-Ukrainian. They just thugs.
- Same about raped girls. Every nation, every army has such scumbags. But you can't demonize all Red Army because of crimes of certain criminals.
- Talking about leaving the Ukraine. Not so long ago same was said to the people of Crimea. You know how it ends.

 

I do it all the time!!!

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To call somebody a troll is a personal attack!

I have reported this post, I wonder what will happen.

 

The Ukrainians who declared their independence from the Junta did not take part in this election.

That is a blanket statement about millions of former Ukrainian citizens who were not happy with the rule of the Junta in Kiev and voted in a free referendum for their independence.
If somebody said that pro-Jews are just a bunch of alcoholics, he would not get away with it.

 

Nothing.

If you feel derectly adressed by the term "troll", that is your personal problem. If I would be asked what I do think, I would say I cannot denie the slight feeling you are a troll.

 

Again: your Junta is in Moscow and a Junta is wanted by our AFD scum in Germany and all the anti-european unti-democratic scum.

Kiew wants to join our great EU and wants to resist to any sort of right wing option.

So listen, learn and understand.

Vive l'Europe.

 

You are calling again for ethnic cleansing of huge territories of the former Ukraine, you are calling for the expultion of millions of former Ukrainian citizens from their homes, that is against the international law and against the rules of this forum:

I have reported your post, and I wonder if your calls for ethnic cleansing will continue.

 

The moment the scum started supporting Russian terror is the moment that they became a military target.

 

You are not willing to read properly:

Pro -Russians are terrorists. If they do crimes, they should be brough to a trial. If they want to avoid that and because they want to be united anyway, they should leave the country. Especially all these russians who crossed the border.

Pro-russians who fight there, should leave and if they dont want, they must be jugded.

Criminals can not be tolerated, easy as that.

Also: when they leave, we will have peace in Ukraine. Best solution for all . They can go back to Russia and all are happy.


Ukraine is a country where also some russians do live. Fine. As we do have some turkish in Germany. But if these turkish would kill and revolt, they would get stamps in the passport and send back. So about the russian minority in Ukraine: Russia is their fatherland. If they do not like it in Ukraine, they should simply leave.

And if they do have blood o their hands, they must be in prison like Mladic or Milosovic. Simple as that.

 

Exactly. Thanks got somebody still does understand logic.

I feel like I talk to complete retards when I allways recognize that some mix up Kiew with Moscow, freedom fighters with terrorism. At least you wont.

Art Allm has still a lot to learn and to listen. He is may be still very young. Time might help. Also some serious news. I recommand Tagesschau, Heute, France I, BBC, Türk I...however. But may be less Putin cannels.

Art Alm: listen the news, reflect , think and understand. I mean you went to school in Germany. You never fellowed our history lessons? Never did hear about Stalin? Never about communism?

You should by that understand what these russians we see in power are about. Take out your old school books, that might help also. Poor teachers indeed...all for nothing.

 

No, only a tiny percentage of people who are pro-Russian Ukrainians are freedom fighters and have weapons, most of the many millions of Ukrainian citizens who do not hate Russians (you call them pro-Russians, as if everybody has to be an Anti-Russian, speak hate Russians, to be called a "good guy") do not carry any weapons, they are often elderly people or women who do not want to be enemies of Russia.

You have repeatedly called for the ethnic cleansing of Ukraine from the pro-Russian population, period!

It is up to the Ukrainians to define themselves as Russians, as Tatars, as Cossacks or as Jews.
Most Ukrainians in the former New Russia always called themselves Russians, their ancestors called themselves Small Russians.

If somebody called for the ethnic cleansing of Ukraine from Jews or pro-Jews, he would not get away with it.
But you have repeatedly called for the ethnic cleansing of the former Ukraine from Russians and pro-Russians, and you still get away with it.

Yes, some of them kill and revolt, the crime rate of Turkish migrants in Germany is way higher, than the crime rate of Germans. But you cannot send these criminals back to Turkey, because most of them are already German citizens.

What to the Ukrainians who do not hate Russians - they live on the land that belonged to their grand-grand-grand... parents.
They are the native population of these regions.

They are Ukrainian citizens, they are natives who live on their land. The criminal Bolsheviks artificially created the so-called "Soviet Ukraine", adding to this territory New Russia and Small Russia.

The ancestors of these Ukrainians who do not hate Russians called themselves Small Russians, Cossacks or New Russians, they never lived in Great Russia, they always were and still are at home, but they did not accept the rule of the West-Ukrainian-Bandera-Junta, that is why they declared their independence and gave their region the original name "New Russia".

They have not killed any civilians, they are fighting against armed people who do not respect their independence.
Everybody has the right to protect themselves from people who want to kill and to subjugate them, no contradiction with the international law.

What to the Bandera-Junta, they are killing women and children, they are waging a war against the civilian population, they are the real criminals, because they are violating the Geneva conventions about the civilian population.

 

They are Ukrainian citizens, their ancestors lived on this territory since the time immemorial, they are the native population... and they call themselves Russians or pro-Russians.

Their ancestors called themselves New-Russians, Cossacks or Small Russians, and they always lived on their homeland that was called New Russia or Small Russia.

The criminal Bolsheviks artificially created the so-called "Soviet Ukraine", adding to this territory "New Russia" and "Small Russia".

The population of New Russia did not want to be subjugated by the Bandera-Junta, and they declared their independence.

According to the international law every people have the right to self-determination, and they have the right to protect themselves from armed people who want to kill and to subjugate them. The Freedom Fighters from "New Russia" do not kill any civilians, they are fighting against armed people that do not respect their independence and who want to kill them.

The real criminals are the Bandera-Junta who kill women and children, these guys are violating the Geneva Convention about the civilians

It is up to Ukrainians to defend themselves as Russians, as Tatars or as Jews.

Russian Federation is not involved in this conflict.

If you called for killing people, who support Jews or call themselves Jews, you would not get away with it.
But you get away with calling for killing people who call themselves Russians or who are pro-Russians, and you get away with it.

 

Just a few days ago, President Putin was bragging about how the USA terrorist "president" of Ukraine promised to stop terrorist attacks on East Ukraine.

This is not the Putin who rescued hundreds of thousands of people in South Ossetia and Abkhazia from a USA terrorist attack.

 

Spoken like a true disciple of Lincoln, Marx and General Sherman:
"extermination, not of soldiers alone, that is the least of the trouble, but the people" .... "We are not fighting against enemy armies, but against an enemy people, both young and old, rich and poor, and they must feel the iron hand of war in the same way as organized armies."

 

That is not true, Stalinists and the so-called "Neo-Nazis" do not have anything in common, and associating me with extremists is a personal attack.

My opinion is mainstream, not yours.

Your mindset is more similar to the mindset of Stalinists and National-Socialists, because you are advocating censorship and are calling for the ethnic cleansing of Ukraine from its "Pro-Russian" population.

I have never made blanket statements about all Jews or all Turks, but you made many blanket statements about "Pro-Russians, you have called for their expulsion from their Homeland.

BTW, many prominent Russian and Ukrainian Jews are pro-Russian, and they support Putin.

Another blanket statement.

You basically say that all Turks in Germany are good, and all pro-Russians (many of them are Jews) are bad.
I never made any blanket statements like that.

The mainstream German media does not call these people terrorists, they are called Separatists in our controlled German media.

Terrorists are people who kill civilians!

You claim to be mainstream, but you talk like an extremist, labeling the Separatists "Terrorists", but not calling by their real name the foreign mercenaries who kill Ukrainian civilians.

Those parts of the Rest-Ukraine that really voted for that can be part of NATO and EU (if German taxpayers do not mind to feed another bigger "Greece", but they were never asked about it), then this is their right.

But the region of former Ukraine that do not love Bandera, that do not speak the pidgin language, called "Ukrainian", and that do not want to live in a racist pro-Bandera country, hostile to Russia, should be left alone.

They declared the independence of their land from the pro-Bandera-Junta, and their right to self determination shall be respected.

Yep, the majority of people in a given region do decide about the future of their region.

That happened in the USA after the population declared their independence from Britain, and that happened in New Russia after the population declared their independence from the pro-Bandera Junta in Kiev.

The population in the USA did not care what the population of London thought about their right to declare their independence, and the population of New Russia did not care what the West-Ukrainian pro-Bandera population thought about the independence of New Russia.

Moscow is not involved in this conflict yet, all Separatists are former Ukrainian citizens.

On the other hand, there are Blackwater killers in the Ukrainian and other foreign mercenaries who kill Ukrainian civilians.

As I have already many times repeated, these people are former Ukrainian citizens with deep roots in the land they live on, their region was called New Russia before the criminal Bolsheviks created an artificial Soviet Republic, called Ukrainslaya SSR .

No main stream German media calls these people "Alcoholics" or "Russian migrants".

They are called SEPARATISTS by the mainstream German media, and no German media dares to call for ethnic cleansing of the territory of New Russia from its pro-Russian population.

You are constantly calling these Separatists "Terrorists" "Alcoholics", "Russian migrants", and you dare to say that your opinion is mainstream!

That is a lie and a personal attack.

I do not support terrorism, I support the right of people to self-determination.

I am against terrorism, that is why I condemn the atrocities of the Pro-Bandera-Junta against the civilian population.

Well, that is your personal opinion, but most Germans would not agree with you.

There are a lot of intelligent Americans, and a moderator has to be impartial and stick to the rules of this forum.

That was another personal attack, I have never said that I am a Stalinist or a "Right-wing-extremist".

If I called a Jew a "Nazi", I would not get away with it, and I hope that you will not get away with your name calling, either.

Another personal attack, I have never said that I support the followers of Bandera or Fascism.

Let's agree that Germany belongs to Germans!



You have failed to prove that your call for ethnic cleansing of New Russia from its native population that does not hate Russians and does not want to live in a NATO-State, that is hostile to Russia, is mainstream in Germany.

Nobody in official German media calls the Freedom Fighters in New Russia "Terrorist", they are called SEPARATISTS , and that debunks all your argumentation!