Italian anti-fascists in Donetsk.

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  1. Potap

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    «The members of Italian organization "Millennium" have come in Donetsk, to help to organize the resistance to the Kievan junta in the territory of Novorossia », - has written in Facebook one of leaders of Donetsk republic Pavel Gubarev.

    According to him, Italian volunteers will be under the personal command of the commander Igor Strelkov. Also the Italians plan to take part in gathering and delivery of the humanitarian aid to inhabitants of Donbass.

    Pavel Gubarev has said, "Volunteers from Russia and Poland already fight now in some military divisions of Donetsk army. Now we are creating real international brigades with participation of Italians, Spaniards, Frenchmen and Canadians.

    Source in Russian: http://newia.info/20531

    http://zavtra.ru/content/view/v-dnr-pribyili-dobrovoltsyi-iz-italii/

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    It looks like some people in Europe could recognize fascists in the Maidan junta, despite flood of anti Russian propaganda.
     
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    I'm especially glad to know about some Polish volunteers in Donetsk army. Obviously not all Poles are blinded with russpfobia. There are some honest Poles in Poland which still remember who were the organizers of Volyn massacre.
     
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    ...one more of these most crazy things fascist russian media is making up.

    Putins - Russia itself is a deeply fascist country. Nobody with common sense does believe in the media of terrorists.

    Threat closed.
     
  5. Potap

    Potap Well-Known Member

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    Visit Donbass personally and check up truthfulness of your mass-media. Everyone is able to write a crap at forums
     
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    Talk of doublespeak. Wonder how the anti fascists are going to react when they discover the truth?


    http://www.opendemocracy.net/od-rus...rn-ukraine-far-right-eurasianism-slavic-unity
     
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    I met a few very well educated and intelligent Poles in Vienna, Austria. They did not have anything against Russians. May be because we all run from communism then.
     
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    Communists most likely.
     
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    Italian anti-fascists, you say?

    Are they anything like Peace Germans?
     
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    suggest you read what I quoted and if need be the whole article. Pavel Gubarev himself is a neo nazi. Here I will make it easier for you. Here it is again. Read it this time

    http://www.opendemocracy.net/od-rus...rn-ukraine-far-right-eurasianism-slavic-unity

    Looks like they are helping the wrong side....
     
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    In Donetsk, the Kremlin supported Pavel Gubarev as self-proclaimed ‘People’s Governor’ of Donetsk Oblast. Now under arrest, Gubarev is a former member of the neo-Nazi ‘Russian National Unity’ party founded in Moscow in 1990 and a current member of the far-right, misleadingly named, Progressive Socialist Party of Ukraine. This party’s leader is Natalya Vitrenko, a long-term associate of American right-wing extremist and anti-Semite Lyndon LaRouche and Eurasianist ideologue Aleksandr Dugin. The latter personally instructed the extremists in Donetsk after Gubarev had been arrested by the Ukrainian security service.

    Looks like Moscow has no problem with Neo-Nazi Fascists, after all. But only if they identify with Russia.
     
  13. Potap

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    He was the member of ‘ Russian National Unity ’ in his youth. As far as I know the filial branch of ‘ Russian National Unity ’ in Donetsk was the project of Ukrainian " Party of Regions* as the counterbalance to the West - Ukrainian nationalists.. Later (at 2005 - 06) Gubarev was the head of public organization " European choice ". If this liberal organization is a part of any nazi direction, I'm the king of Babylon - Nebuchadnezzar II in this case.
     
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    hahahahaaa polish run for communism? I think it is more likely that the french stop drinking whine that that what you do propose.

    If you russians dare to try to put communism again on our neighbors, you will get resistance like you never saw.

    Polish are totaly immun to communism forever. It is more likely that Tea Party members become communists than polish.

    And you can easily replace the word "communism" by "russian" in that case. eaven lefties in Poland like I am a german left wing guy do hate the idea to have anything anymore to do with russians who want to control them...
     
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    What I see in East Ukraine is people fighting to defend themselves. They are not going to West Ukraine and murdering women and children. There is no talk in West Ukraine of the need for humanitarian corridors for people to escape artillery and air attacks in their neighborhoods. No schools or hospitals are being blown up in the West.


    And then there's Odessa. Spin propaganda about Odessa all day long, but the truth is clear.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4dJRnI-X8Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player

    No amount of name-calling or propaganda will erase the violence that has been brought to those Ukrainians with the backbone to resist the tyranny being imposed on them by the puppets of the US and EU that currently hold power in Kiev.

    In short, a website does not trump REALITY!!!
     
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    Almost everything in your link is an opinion not a fact. Don't you find it strange that the article states Russia is inciting extremists in Eastern Ukraine when Nuland stated that the U.S. gave five billion towards what was a violent overthrow of the legal government in Kiev? And don't you find it hypocritical and dishonest that this same U.S. government is saying that the Russians are encouraging extremism as if only a few people connect with Russia, when all the people in the Dombas speak Russian; are dependent on Russia for their trade and livelihood and have always been a part of Russia?

    The people of Dombas who are being killed by Kiev have no connection to the E.U. or to the Polish affiliated area of the Kiev government. They are the ones who voted for Yanukovich, and they are the ones who are protesting because they have become disenfranchised by the criminals who are in power in Kiev and who were put there solely to serve the U.S. corporate as well as Nato's interests. The Dombas people want to stop subsidizing the Western Ukrainians who obviously hate them or they wouldn't be bombing and killing them. These people are not slaves. Like everyone else in this world, they have a right to their own self determination.

    At last count the government in Kiev killed two hundred people, seventeen of which are children, and wounded countless others, not to mention the burnings and hackings of the people in Odessa. As of yet, there has not been a full investigation nor have any arrests been made.

    Here is an example of the deceptive spin in the article and how far it is from reality. Since we all know about the five billion spent by Nuland, not to mention her appearance and encouragement of the protests at Maidan, this excerpt about it being a grass root movement is obviously a lie. The movement at Maidan came about by the U.S. manipulations of the historical hatreds of the Polish affiliated people of Western Ukraine:


    "...But Maidan was a grassroots movement, whereas Anti-Maidan was a top-down initiative with protesters sometimes receiving remuneration for their participation..."
     
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    why should we be surprised that Communists are coming to the defense of fellow Stalinists in eastern Ukraine.
     
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    Because it does give the impression as it was a lot. And that I do doubt.

    I guess if there are any, you would have a very small number as you often find everywhere out of a big number a very small number of complete retards.
     
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    Never russophobes is do not. Firstly they are afraid. And secondly in russophobes brain damage occurs, if they find out the truth. Them is much easier and safer to scold Russia on the Internet.
     
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    As well as the fascist governments of Western countries go to protect fellow fascists in eastern Ukraine.
     
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    you seem to believe that everyone who opposed Russian Imperialism is a Fascist and a "Russiaphobe".
     
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    baiting & trolling reported.
     
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    In Russia no imperialism. Do not confuse Russia and the United States. Russia is the freest country in the world. All countries that will soon become part of Russia, do so voluntarily. Not only. These countries will supplicate Russia, to take them.

    P\S: Only the Nazis, russophobes and crazy - against Russia. More homosexuals against Russia.
     
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    Mr. it would not be bad if you'd determine are they Communists or neo-Nazis. As you contradict to yourselves in your own posts.
     
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    :roflol:

    Russia wants to conquer back all the lost lands of the Czarist Empire, including Ukraine, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Alaska, etc.

    They are Imperialists and all free people of the world will rise up against them and squash them.
     

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