So what have we got here? A couple hundred protesters gathered at Russia's Kiev Embassy, rocks, eggs, spray paint, tires, smoke grenades ..... IOW, more democracy in action. Well, they trashed the place, pulled down the Russian flag, hung a Ukrainian flag on the gate, overturned cars and had a great time painting Swastikas. Predictably, Russia is not happy. Surprisingly, the US also felt compelled to condemn it. These people in Kiev are becoming an embarrassment even to their enablers. Meanwhile, Yats thinks he can coerce Russia into a super discount on gas. Real classy, Ukraine. You really have a special way of doing things. Link for this story (with pictures): http://rt.com/news/165952-ukraine-russia-embassy-protest/
It asctually surprises me that the US condemned it. But then again, maybe not. we've had our embassies attacked in the middle east by radical Islamicists. So maybe that's why.
this sort of anger is very understandable. Russia is funding and arming a secessionist movement in Ukraine. of course Ukrainians will not be happy with Russia. Its only natural.
I guess Russian agents snuck in later and painted swastikas on everything that got legitimately trashed, roight mate? And then another Russian agent hung a Ukrainian far-right movement's flag on the embassy flag pole and no one noticed it to take it down, ey.
It's odd that the US condemned this incident, but the West blocked a Russian draft resolution in the UN Security Council on the same incident. Obviously, this can't be kept secret, so is the West trying to handle this 'in-house' and keep the UN out of the loop? Looks that way from my house.
And Russia blocked a UNSC Resolution against the illegal invasion, occupation, and annexation of sovereign Ukrainian territory, it was brought to the UNGA and passed by the vast majority of the international community. Please spare us all of your blame the victim for being invaded propaganda, the Ukraine neither transgressed or threatened transgression against the Russian Federation, this was an expansionist war of conquest from day one.
The Minister of Foreign Affairs it is a face of the country on the international scene.In Ukraine his name - Andrii Deshchytsia. Today when couple hundred protesters gathered at Russia's Kiev Embassy. Andrii Deshchytsia. publicly call Putin swear words. Now diplomats of all countries vainly try to remember similar precedent. Though once. Though somewhere. Diplomats of Europe and the USA feel like losers - they studied decades to a diplomatic language and etiquette, lost sight, nerves and gold handles, trained mind to tell a lot of things short phrases, to state discontent and indignation it is polite and correct. And there in Ukraine a genius Deshchitsa shocked all. It is a new Victory ! Hurrah Ukraine! Ukraine in the history! Attack on Embassy of Russia is a sure demand for a place among the African countries of the won democracy, the similar statement of the Minister of Foreign Affairs is a demand for the first place among tribes of New Guinea. [video=youtube_share;YdeoBok8QFA]http://youtu.be/YdeoBok8QFA[/video]
A beautiful commentary on those we support. I fear though for the indigenous Russian speaking people, who the Nazis want once again to usurp from their own lands... with our help of course. Those people are animals. How civilized the Russians seem in comparison.
I looked through all the corporate news outlets and not a word about this. No surprise of course. Why we must not make those 'maidans' look like the pigs they are.
Oh yes, it is very civilised to destabilise a country, to spread false information and to create civil war. Yes, yes indeed. http://www.interpretermag.com/dugin-tells-separatists-in-ukraine-what-to-do-next/ Most people consider civil war to be one of the most evil things to deliberately cause That politician was not following protocol but I don't blame him under the circumstances.
I am ashamed of some Germans that are supporting these animals. It seems that some Germans have nothing learned from German history Many Germans are today manipulated into a disaster by the same forces that manipulated them into a disaster in the past century.
Tell us Art who was it? Who manipulated them? I know what you are and I have known it since debatepolitics.com so keep it up sir.
Meanwhile, in related news, the EU is 'cautiously supporting the Russian position' on the gas issue. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Russian gas supply to Ukraine may be cut off on Monday after Kiev rejected all concessions offered by Moscow to settle Kievs gas debt. Chances are that the Ukrainian government is simply acting irrationally, some analysts say. Kiev has not been paying for gas it imports from Russia for months, resulting in a multibillion dollar debt mounting. Russia says that it would invoke the prepay option of the standing contract and would only deliver as much gas as Kiev pays for in advance starting Monday. With Ukraine not willing to pay, this would mean an effective cut-off. Russia offered a $100 discount to gas price roughly to the level that the Europeans pay. The offer includes recalculation of the current debt, which would revalue gas supplied since April with the discount applied, but Kiev rejected this plan, saying its not good enough. Ukraine has been offered a very generous discount and yet they still want more. It really is quite incredible the nerve and the chutzpah of the Ukrainian government in all this. I dont think any amount of discount would really satisfy Ukraine. They are spoiling for a fight here, believes journalist Neil Clark. Instead of compromising and settling the debt, Kiev seems to be preparing to raise the stakes. Over the past few months it has been pumping as much unpaid Russian gas into its underground gas storages as it could and now says it has enough to last till autumn. Kievs desire to dictate the terms to Russia may have an irrational basis underneath, international law expert Alexander Mercouris told RT. It is difficult for the Ukrainians at this time to negotiate with Russians about anything. There are many people in Kiev who dont like that, he said. One of the fundamental problems with the way in which the Ukrainian authorities have been dealing with their multiple crises since they took power in February is that they dont seem to show very much grasp of reality, he added. There are also concerns that Kiev would eventually simply siphon off gas it transits from Russia to European consumers, as was the case during previous rounds of gas stand-offs. A more distant problem will arise in winter. Normally Ukraine would accumulate gas intended for Europe in summertime and deliver it in winter, because thats how the Ukrainian gas pipeline system is designed. With gas from the storages use for Ukraines own consumption, there would simply not be enough for Europe next winter. The Ukrainian government has been intransigent and putting the people of Europe at risk. Thats why the EU is actually cautiously supporting Russias position at this time, political analyst Bill Dores told RT. Ukraine has for years enjoyed a politically motivated preferred treatment by Russia in terms of gas price discounts, he added. Now there is a government in Kiev hostile towards Russia, and Moscow has no reason to support it. An escalating conflict would hurt all the three parties involved. But the Ukrainian government may be tempted to raise the stakes now, said Mercouris. There is an expectation that once things are deteriorating in Ukraine, it could be blamed on the Russians, he explained. With Ukrainian economy already in peril, painful austerity measures demanded by international creditors in exchange for loans and a political turmoil in the eastern provinces, Kiev has loads of blame to apportion in the future. C
It is, I think, extremely important to understand that the thugs on both sides are very unpleasant. Racist attacks by Russian nationalist thugs within Russia itself is absolutely horrifying and almost completely unreported. The swastika is a popular symbol among young macho men throughout all of former Eastern Europe including Russia. I absolutely guarantee you that an equally significant proportion of the pro-Russians who have been attacking anyone who tries to show support for Ukraine within Eastern Ukrainian cities, are no more and no less right wing, racist and vicious than the appalling Pravy Sektor thugs included on the other side. We have plenty within the EU – there is a serious problem, for example, with the official encouragement given to commemorations of pro-Nazi forces within the Baltic states which often have a distinctly neo-Nazi tinge.
I'm not sure what value it is at this stage to understand European political DNA except that people with widely divergent views shouldn't be forced to live together under a common government that can never be satisfactory nor fair to a large segment of the population. The reality is that a civil war is being waged and hope for reconciling is gone. Crimea is gone .Ukraine will never be the same. The best that can be hoped for is federalization. These latest developments demonstrate that the turds in Kiev are not ready for prime time. They have become an embarrassment to both the US and EU. Their recent statements underscore this and I wouldn't be surprised if both are looking at exit strategies.