Your Thoughts on this Graph (Drug Use By Race)

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  1. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    What are your thoughts on this graph?

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    The source contains 14 other charts, but this one made me do a double take. The findings come from the National Survey on Drug Use and Health, Bureau of Justice Statistics, whose homepage can be found here. Put simply... what are your thoughts on this statistic? What do you think is the motivation behind the disparity in use as it relates to incarceration? Thanks for your input (in advance).
     
  2. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

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    This is a prime example that there are still two Justice Systems in this country. One white, one black; separate and unequal.
     
  3. J0NAH

    J0NAH Banned

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    Can ijust add that, as a euorpean, who knows alot about european culture, we are VERY, VERY tribal. This may not be news but its true and that will always mean we are racist, not me btw, I stepped outside the box.
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obviously the intent of the chart and the article, and considering the source, is to try to illustrate a slanted judicial system, but putting that aside as a possibility, what else could explain it?

    Just to take a stab at an answer without doing any research: more people are in jail for DEALING drugs than USING drugs, and poverty drives the entrepreneurial minorities to deal disproportionately to whites?

    It would be interesting to see the breakdown by offense.
     
  5. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    That seems to be the presumption that fixes the "War on Drugs" crosshairs. Yet:

    You could be right... and unfortunately, it would mean that white dealers are going unchecked and ignored.
     
  6. superbadbrutha

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    Excellent post, you are correct that means white drug dealers are basically operating unchecked.
     
  7. J0NAH

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    the white cannabis dealers iknew as a teenager never had any problems with the police as far back as ican remember. However, one Rastafarian iknew who sold cannabis was always being busted by police. Coincidence? unlikely. He never did time btw and he was a real good guy not like these white dealers who all think theyre Tony Montana.
     
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    Another aspect would be that the police are just taking the easy path and are staking out in the inner cities and not doing much police work in the suburban areas.....
     
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    1. Populations are extremely out of balance. Blacks make up very little of the total population so of course more white by population and percentage will use the drugs.

    2.Hispanics are considered "white" in these polls, giving a boost to the white percentage.

    3.The draw of crime in the inner cities, where most blacks populate, is a big reason as to why more blacks are arrested under drug charges than whites. Whites dont have huge gangs who revolve around selling drugs and such. Just about every crime black gangs commit has to do with money and drugs. There are more drug related acts of violence within the black community than in the white community.

    4. It also comes down to the culture. there is a big big problem in black culture these days that glorifies drugs in their music, movies, and every day living. SO yeah they are going to be more of a target. When you got some rapper who influences millions of people to look up to the thug life and talking about selling and smoking drugs and such then yeah that culture is going to be more suspect. That is what happens when you glorify illegal activity.
     
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    who is giving these rappers record deals in the millions? white businessmen. who is promoting 50 cent? white businessmen. Why? because they want to portray so -called black culture in a negative light because america knows. america knows that hip-hop is the biggest threat to white nationalist rule that america will ever face and will be its inevitable downfall because of its political nature and grass roots movement that aims to topple corporate greed and racism.

    YOU

    will never understand this, you wont even read this, you will even less likely acknowledge any of this and will shun such words and resign it to the depths of sub conscious denial because

    the truth hurts.
     
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    When one considers that the criminal element comprises only a fraction of the entire population, then taking that fraction and dividing it up between 'black' & 'white' (which, btw begs some explanation of just how that survey was done) and taking into consideration that the surveyor somehow seems to know the 'percent who have ever used these drugs' :hmm: (rolls eyes)....That graph is useless.
     
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    they usually jail the dealers more than the user...so what i see is that the whites are the buyers probably because they have a few bucks more than the blacks...what i would like to see is how many of the drug users are democrats compared to republicans....almost every liberal i have ever met uses drugs a lot of the time....
     
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    Then more whites should be incarcerated for it.

    They aren't giving a boost to those who incarcerated.

    Most of the folks incarcerated are there for non-violent crimes, so that throws out that theory.

    What is Black Culture?
     
  14. E_Pluribus_Venom

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    Larger demographical representation is not a default for "insert action here" propensity. See raw annual murder #'s as an example.

    A more in-depth look of the study that separates Caucasians from Hispanics... the former still taking up a near-majority of users:

    Most drug-related incarcerations are for non-violent crimes. Also, college campuses are a gold mine for drug dealing, and a largely overlooked illegal market mecca... mostly of the prescription medication variety (others being cocaine, marijuana, and ecstasy). It is not so spread out (as to make it difficult for the authorities to stop/prosecute) as people would assume.

    Yes... lazy/flawed law enforcement is exactly what we're discussing here.

    Who is the leading consumer of the thug-themed music culture?
     
  15. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    Well, I'd say congratulations for debunking statistics as a whole (but not without laughing first).
     
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    I'm not debunking 'statistics as a whole' but any statistical analysis of a population of data is only as accurate as the data gathered. In this case, I have questions about the data categorization as well as the comparison to the population as a whole.
     
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    When the police are patrolling high crime areas more than low crime areas, those using drugs in the higher patrolled areas are going to be caught more often.
    Add to that the smaller population of blacks vs. whites....represented in the chart.
    4% of blacks is a whole lot more than 6% of whites..... derr.

    I'm not sure why this common sense is turned into some racial bias BS, but it always is.


    Which race kills for/steals their drug money more.... leading to prison sentences ?

    That would be a neat chart to see... but HuffPo would obviously never post it.


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    So you're saying blacks aren't buying the music and attending the concerts ?
    You know... where the money is made that keeps these entertainers in the public eye.

    Anyway... you totally missed the point.

    He said: "When you got some rapper who influences millions of people to look up to the thug life and talking about selling and smoking drugs and such"

    None of your misguided rant about "white men" addressed the fact that he clearly stated.
     
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    It's not as if we can imprison people simply for having black skin.

    Richard Nixon knew that when he was promising his new constituency in the Deep South that he would end "forced busing". That's why the War on Drugs© was a critical component of his Southern Strategy©. So what if a few of those dirty white hippies got caught up in the dragnet? It's not as if those folks would have ever voted Republican anyway.
     
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    My "rant" addressed that point precisely.

    Generally the ppl who buy the music are buying what is offered to them, its supply and demand, you buy whatever is, or you think is, on offer. Its conditioning. The same with pop music, ppl are conditioned by the music execs. for example, when you are born, you are not born liking rock music as a default. It is something your parents allowed you to listen to or what the radio plays ALL the time. Thats conditioning. That is why all ihere on the Radio as far is rap is concerned is JAY-Z. Everyone likes JAY-Z, why? Thats all they know.
     
  21. E_Pluribus_Venom

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    Yes, we've identified that problem. I would ask for a solution, but that seems pretty easy.
     
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    There are, considering a ton of hispanics are in prison.....except that they are labeled as whites when someone needs to use that to their advantage.


    see above post.

    Not exactly, considering once again the inner cities are a target for cops because of drug and gang activity being so common. Where the majority of violence is concentrated is where the cops will be, leading to a bigger chance of being arrested or pulled over in those areas.



    Your music, actions ,etc. etc. are you now going to say rappers glorifying drugs, talking (*)(*)(*)(*) about police officers, glorifying gangs and a ton of other illegal activities has no effect on what black youths do an how they act? These youths want to be their rap idol, from the dress code to how the guy acts. Look around!!!
     
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    I will acknowledge this as another idiotic conspiracy theory. Ummmmm im sorry but Cash Money is owned and operated by BLACK MEN. Then you have Diddy Combs who once again, answers to nobody but himself. Dr. Dre owns Aftermath, Suge Knight ran and owned Death Row . If you havent noticed, the major Rap record companies are ran and owned by the rappers themselves. Get over it, they push out what they want and make the music their fans are wanting to hear. So dont give me the tired ass "It be da white debil fault" argument.

    I think it is you that needs to go back and to some studying.
     
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    All in all the fact of the matter is there are many more factors than just user amount. You dont see white people on a daily basis patrolling their neighborhoods and beating the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of people for being on the wrong street, or doing drive by's, or selling (*)(*)(*)(*) right in the open.

    And you call it lazy patrolling? fine, tell the police to leave the hoods alone and go arrest more white people to even things out. That way in the mean time, back in the hood drive by's and violence will be much more of a constant and when more innocent kids get shot while sleeping in their beds you can (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about the cops not being there.

    And once again, yes white people are the leading consumer of pretty much everything in this country. But do you see the majority of white youths trying to act out what the hell they hear on the CD? no because if they did this whole damned country would be a friggin war zone.
     
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    >>>MOD EDIT flamebait Removed<<<


    cash money signed A DEAL with universal for 30 million, birdman may own it thats not disputed but the point is WHO is promoting it? who is giving him deals? Universal, THATS the point. do you understand now?
     

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