Women, Hobby Lobby and the GOP: Hell to Pay in November?

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    Women, Hobby Lobby and the GOP: Hell to Pay in November?

    by Martha Burk | Huffington Post | Posted: 07/16/2014 3:59 pm EDT
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    "Two weeks after the Supreme Court's Hobby Lobby decision allowing corporations to refuse some kinds of birth control coverage for female employees, the brouhaha has not died down. In fact, anger is building among women - and at precisely the time the Democrats are counting on single females to push them to victory in November.

    Harry Reid, Senate Majority Leader, promised action to undo the decision, which not only elevates the rights of corporations over those of women, but legitimizes a form of sex discrimination in employment.

    One option would be repeal of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, the law on which the decision was based (impossible with a slim Democratic majority and no chance at all in the Republican-controlled House). Instead, a vote was held on Wednesday on whether to consider a measure dubbed the "Not My Boss' Business Act," introduced by Senators Patty Murray (D-WA)and Mark Udall (D-CO).

    The bill mandates that employers cannot disrupt coverage for contraception or other health services that are guaranteed under federal law. No big surprise - the GOP blocked the bill from even going forward for debate.

    That means direct action by women will likely ramp up. Demonstrations have been ongoing in several cities, and social media is abuzz with plans calling for a boycott of Hobby Lobby.

    Other businesses that have sued to exclude birth control from company insurance are also in the crosshairs, including Eden Foods. Michael Potter, Eden's CEO, claims among other things, that contraception "almost always involves immoral and unnatural practices." A petition went up immediately to "buy organic" somewhere else.

    Taking aim at individual businesses may have some effect, but the larger fallout may be suffered by the Republican Party. After all, women haven't forgotten "legitimate rape," "abortion Barbie," and "hey hot mama" from Republican candidates.

    And female voters now get it that a Republican majority in the Senate could block even moderate judges if the two oldest liberals (Ginsburg and Breyer) retire in the next couple of years.

    Women, the majority of voters, have been moving away from the Republican Party for decades. As of the last election, the gender gap in party identification was 13 points in favor of the Democrats.

    According to the CNN/ORC International poll, which was released last February, 55 percent of Americans surveyed say the GOP doesn't understand women. That number rises to 59 percent among all women and 64 percent among women over 50. It's a good bet young women are now approaching their mothers' level of disdain in the wake of the no-birth-control decision.

    Republicans have been saying that the "war on women" Democrats accuse them of waging is a fake issue. Really? In addition to taking aim at abortion and now birth control, Republicans have blocked equal pay legislation, a minimum wage increase, and expansion of Medicaid - all programs that affect women disproportionately. They've crusaded for years to weaken Social Security, and don't even mention child care or paid family leave.

    If it's not a war, it's one hell of a frontal assault. We'll see if women remember in November."

    read more:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/martha-burk/women-hobby-lobby-and-the_b_5591947.html
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    IMO: Every woman who produces an egg each month will surely get to the polls and bring her social club with her in an insane maneuver against the male driven republican party. College students will go to the polls en masse because their views are different from old belching republican senators

    Everyone is predicting a smashing Democratic victory in November because of the ludicrous War On Women, and every bill they tried filibustered and shot down that aids the plight of women such as equal pay for equal work, while we witness rapes and murders in the military and civilian life of our women who strive under great odds to be working, giving birth, nurturing, cooking, cleaning, picking up their kids at the day care center, making dinner, then falling asleep on the sofa at 8:00 in the evening.

    Republicans should have more empathy for women today; instead they have such an antipathy toward women for some strange reason, that women cannot understand so we will have to give up on the republican party, as they are so out-of-touch.

    I cannot wait until November!!
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Only hardcore liberals who are trying to avoid all the problems created by their boy king actually care about this. Hobby Lobby is so last week...

    Immigration and illegal alien invaders will be dominating November, that and the realization Obama's economy still sucks, and God only knows what sort of foreign policy blunders he'll create between now and then...
     
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    You might think that Hobby Lobby was "last week" but you would be mistaken. Women won't forget.
    Latinos won't forget the Republicans responses to immigration.
    Blacks won't forget - gays won't forget - others won't forget.

    The Republicans are on a downhill slide to oblivion.
     
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    Harry Reid???!! Someone is validating Harry Reid??? ha ha... what a JOKE

    women are angry because they can't have abortion-causing drugs???

    well, you know what. Women like that are IGNORANT (read: uneducated) and/or sexually out of control, etc. Anyone who thinks their sexual "rights" are absolute and their children have no rights is a

    tyrant

    among other things...




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    Why are we constantly told that women are this shallow, petty and stupid?

    I'm sure the fact is we are not as treacherous as the media makes out. I'm sure women don't vote according to who's giving us the PIL. I support government health care though but not for this nonsense.

    we are simply not as sex obsessed as the feminist lesbians who stir this all up. I'll buy my own rather than let committees and courts waste endless money on this rubbish.
     
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    the amusing thing is that libs ignore that pro-life men are that way because their wives tell them to be.
     
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    And a VOTER !!! :)

    Bet you're really mad that women got the vote ! :)

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    Why would lesbians be so concerned about birth control?


    Intelligent women vote for the party who does the most to protect their rights.....
     
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    The reality is that the Republicans have clearly shown that their real agenda of the Right is to make birth control of all kinds to be illegal.

    It is chilling enough that leaders like Santorum plainly wish to turn us into a Right Wing Dictatorship, we must pay carefully that the rest of the Right are careful to NEVER claim that a right of personal choice in matters like this are a right.

     
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    The only women that count are the independents and they poll more on the side of SCOTUS than the liberal cause of free abortions.

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    This is why no one really takes people like you seriously.
     
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    Republicans' imaginary "war against women" has long been a staple of Democrat rhetoric. They'd have said the same this year whether the Hobby Lobby case was there or not. Democrats understand that accusations stick even if they're not true. Anyone without a conscience, wanting to win more than anything, can make groundless accusations. At the very least, it keeps your opponent busy denying it, and lets you set the agenda. The uninformed masses will believe it if they hear it. What a shame our democracy has descended to this, and that the party which claims to represent the people leads the way in deceiving them.
     
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    Considering it seems 1/2 the articles from Progressives sites are about Birth Control and claiming Hobby Lobby is not providing any in their insurance plans ( a lie).....

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    The Morning after pill is a right???
     
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    DUH, equal health care is a right....
     
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    What is "Equal" about the Morning after pill and how is the Morning After Pill health care?
     
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    WHO said anything about the morning after pill being equal?????? Equal to what????


    And BC IS health care.....whether you like it or not :)
     
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    I didnt say BC as a whole i said the Morning after Pill. You said Equal health care in regards to the morning after pill are you going away from that now?
     
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    No, I didn't.
     
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    Yes actually you did... Dont go back now....
     
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    Oh, I'm sorry you can't read correctly....but do please show where I posted anything about the morning after pill being a right.

    Quote Originally Posted by FoxHastings View Post

    DUH, equal health care is a right....

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    Yes, women who see the constant erosion of their rights by the Republicans will vote accordingly.......
     
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    Yes, your Candy Land analysis is always spot on :roll:

    The "Republicans" did not make this ruling--the United States Supreme Court did and not a whole anybody can do about it.

    As for whatever estrogen-fueled rage the women in California feel, they don't get a voice in any but their own races. Sorry in advance for your Midterm losses and election night tears.
     
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    Look at what you replied to.. I asked a question. You responded... Figure it out. If people are fooled to vote for someone over a lie that is on them not me.

    How is a company not paying for the Morning after pill an" erosion of their rights"??
     
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    Do men take the morning after pill?

    The whole thing is directed at something women use..........don't think they notice?
     
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    What "Whole thing"? No one is stopping women from using the morning after pill.
     
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    Yes, BC is health care. But talk about equal....it's not. It's "oh-so-special", don't you see. It is the ONLY category of health care where the government (ok, the Obama administration, in it's "interpretation" of the ACA") has decreed that EVERY fda-approved drug/device for that purpose MUST be covered by all health plans.....and (cherry on top) with zero co-pay! For NO OTHER medical category or condition, affecting females or males, is this true. Not diabetes, not heart health, not multiple sclerosis, not erectile dysfunction, not ANY OTHER type of health care. Only female birth control. It was blatant pandering to the female vote by the Obama administration, and it's blatantly obvious.
     
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    Democrats, secure border, booming economy, Israel, record-breaking welfare rolls, IRS, DOJ, Eric Holder, President Obama, NSA, denial of free press, attacks on free speech and freedom of religion, Fast and Furious, most secretive White House ever, government shutdown, highest national debt ever, and incredible hatred of America. November is getting close.
     
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    People have said that before then we got 2010 and its historic results, the Republicans aren't going anywhere except in liberal imaginations...
     

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