Egypt again warns Turkey to stop criticising Sisi.....

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  1. MMC

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    Why is Turkey mouthing off at Egypt? Why is Turkey saying anything about Egypt handling affairs with the Palestinians and Israelis? Is Erdogan still butt hurt that the MB is getting what they finally deserve? What say ye?


    Egypt warned Ankara Saturday of "further action" as it protested for the second time in a week at the Turkish premier criticising its president and Cairo's handling of the Gaza conflict.

    Ties have been strained since both withdrew their ambassadors last year after the military ousted Islamist president Mohamed Morsi, who had forged closer ties with Turkey's devout Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

    The foreign ministry said it was summoning the Turkish charge d'affaires -- for the second time within a week -- to protest against Erdogan's criticism in the media on Thursday of President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi and Cairo's stance on the conflict in the Gaza Strip.

    Ministry spokesman Badr Abdelatty told AFP that the protest comes after Erdogan in an interview with US television channel CNN "repeated again that Sisi was a tyrant and that Egypt has no role" in resolving the Gaza crisis.

    Erdogan also denounced Sisi on July 18 as an "illegitimate tyrant", saying that Cairo could not be relied upon to negotiate a truce in Gaza.....snip~

    http://news.yahoo.com/egypt-again-warns-turkey-stop-criticising-sisi-155414279.html
     
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    Currently we are bussy with president elections and Erdogan runs for presidency. Probably he will win.
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    Egypt executed many people for reason to support Morsi, and Sisi came take the lead with military coup. He has no dignity in eyes of Turkey. Anyway, they will never have stability and Sisi is a puppet like Mubarek.

    Egypt prepares a cheese salad with only empty words in summary as before. Gazza city's population is about 500.000 and they have power to welcome all people in Gazza, however Palestinean civilians can flee and they became sandwich - between incorrigible, bigot terrorist organization Hamas and Israel who achieves orgasm by killing little kids playing football near beach. On the other hand, Turkey welcomed more than 1.5 million Syrian refuges who escapes from Assad even they don't know any Turkish word and they are not educated and a real burden for our economy.

    But both Palestineans and Egyptians are Arabs they can easily be integrated. But I don't really know how will we integrate with the Syrians
     
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    Mornin' TB. [​IMG] So you think Erdogan is just mouthing off due to the Election?

    Doesn't look like Egypt will put up with him talking BS about Sisi.
     
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    :smile:

    Yes and our country's agenda is election nowadays. We are not interested in illegitimate tyrant temporarily.
    Yesterday night Erdoğan was bussy with playing football - you can see his goals here http://www.cnnturk.com/video/spor/futbol/iste-basbakan-erdoganin-3-golu
     
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    Well, the Saud and Qatar think Sisi is legitimate and will be supporting him.
     
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    Countries of Wahhabis are got short shrift here. They are last countries to tell which is legitimate or not since they have no culture of democracy even no imported democracy values.
     
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    You will find that the interests of Saudi Arabia are best served by peace in the region. That much is consistent.
     
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    Mornin' Margot. [​IMG] How is that when The Saud have been arming conflicts in the Region?
     
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    We care about "Sisi came to force with military coup" and "They execute members/supporters of muslim brotherhood" . Therefore why should we show respect to Sisi.

    (Myself I don't sympathize muslim brotherhood or Morsi [or I don't really know his life and what poltical idea of muslim brotherhood advocates ] but as my world view a military coup leader can not be legimate after all, almost everybody think same with me in my country that Arabs cannot understand that since they are used to be ruled by kings, seyhs, dictators and tyrants etc)
     
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    No they haven't been arming the conflicts. The SAG wants Hamas and Hezbollah to cool it and quit being an impediment to peace... King Abdullah hates Assad because Syria killed Harirri... and oppresses Sunni..

    You'll find that many so called pundits assume a lot without knowing anything about KSA or the majority of the GCC.

    Iran wants a foothold on the Arabian Peninsula and have created problems for them since the 1950s.. They also fund the Al Houthis in Northern Yemen and create a serious threat to the Saudi border in Asir.
     
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    We know for a fact that the Saud.....armed the Syrian Rebels while Qatar backed the MB. Also the Saud backed Selah in Yemen. Armed the Libya Rebels. As well as drove over the Border into Bahrain to put some Shia in check.

    So the way it is reported throughout the World of Media.....is that, they have been arming Conflicts. It's not really a matter of contention anymore. Also the Saud sent Aid to Egypt to help go after those MB.
     
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    You don't KNOW squat.. Qatar did arm the rebels, but Saudi Arabia led a very loud and vocal campaign to persuade young Saudis NOT to travel to Syria to fight.

    KSA sends aid to Egypt NOT to the MB which they have NEVER supported since the days of Nassar, but to prevent starvation and the complete economic collapse of Egypt. Americans are in general poorly informed and the media coverage is largely shallow and stupid.
     
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    Evidently you don't know that the US knew......huh? You will have to do better than.....just saying someone doesn't know Squat. When they obviously do. Just sayin!


    Dozens of Saudi Islamist militants have left the battlefields of Syria and Iraq for Yemen, where their experience appears to have contributed to a spate of lethal al Qaeda attacks, a senior Yemeni security official said.

    The influx detected in the last few months is worrying for Yemen, a turbulent country where several hundred Saudi militants are already thought to be fighting alongside their Yemeni counterparts in al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP).

    The initial core of Saudis fled to Yemen after the kingdom defeated a violent al Qaeda campaign between 2003 and 2006, helping to create AQAP with their Yemeni comrades in 2009.

    Yemen is also a jihadi battleground where U.S. drone strikes have targeted al Qaeda leaders for more than a decade.

    Despite losing that territorial base after a military offensive backed by U.S. drones in 2012, they have regrouped, staging a series of attacks across Yemen in the past few months, some of which are thought to be the work of Saudis.

    A Yemeni government inquiry said most of the perpetrators of a December 5 raid on a Defence Ministry hospital in Sanaa, in which at least 52 people were killed, were Saudi citizens.

    Nine of the 14 men shown had Saudi accents or names such as Abu Khaled al-Makki and Abu Naser al-Najdi, suggesting they hail from the Saudi city of Mecca or the kingdom's Najd region.....snip~

    http://news.yahoo.com/saudis-hardened-wars-syria-iraq-join-al-qaeda-132054395.html


    Moreover the Saud were the First to arm the Syrian Rebels......oh and yeah they told their people to not go and fight in Syria. Lot of good that did.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/26/saudi-arabia-arming-syrian-rebels_n_2764375.html
     
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    Dozens? And you think that means the SAG supports them?

    There are some disaffected Shia in KSA.. and there are border people in al Habla and Asir.. As I said Americans are largely ignorant and easily duped by equally ignorant media parrots.
     
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    There are more than just dozens in Yemen as well as Syria.....also this was just to show that the Saud isn't real good at keeping their noses out of others peoples Business. As well as arming those in that region. While looking to subjugate the Shia and create his United States of Islam. Getting rid of Gadhafi was a must. Otherwise Gadhafi would have went for his United States of Africa. Which as we all know.....if that would have happened. That would really put a damper on any Saud ambitions.

    As the Saud are incapable of taking on the Berbers and even having a chance to win. Pretty much why they can't really take anyone on.....other than some poorly armed Shia. Weakness defined!

    No one cares that the Alleged King of one group of Desert Nomads.....speaks. As all know.....he is unable to keep his word. Moreover.....none trust him. Nor should any.....especially with all those infected Sunni hiding out in Saudi Land.
     
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    The Saudis have done a great deal since the 1950s to help the Shia in terms of education, healthcare, housing and jobs.. but you wouldn't know that. You weren't there.

    The track record of the Saudi Kings speaks for itself.. That's why they have made such extraordinary progress in the past 60 years.. and maintained stability as the oldest US ally.

    You don't know much about Libya or Ghaddafi either.. I take it you don't know about Idris or their Constitution or the nature of the oil business there.
     
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    Yeah, its not like they can just exterminate all of the Shia. So really it always was a mute point.

    That track record with women and gays is so great. :roll:

    Sure I do.....I just have facts that go with most of what I say and the links to back what I put up. Also its called History.....Eastern and Western Civilizations. My major you might say. :wink:

    Then there is what the Media from All over the Globe, reports.
     
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    Women in Arabia control all the money and take out more business licenses than men.. They also make up 60% of university students.

    Gays have thriving communities in Arabia's cities.. They just don't do it in the streets and scare the horses.. You really are an ignoramus.
     
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    Oh yeah.....shows me a City that has Saudi women driving around and walking around unescorted? Show me where any Gay outward affection is permitted. So far you aren't much on backing up much of what you say. But then this is not surprising.

    Truly you are one uneducated Mope.
     
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    I don't think so...


    "Homosexuality is one of the most disgusting sins and greatest crimes.... It is a vile perversion that goes against sound nature, and is one of the most corrupting and hideous sins.... The punishment for homosexuality is death. Both the active and passive participants are to be killed whether or not they have previously had sexual intercourse in the context of a legal marriage.... Some of the companions of the Prophet stated that [the perpetrator] is to be burned with fire. It has also been said that he should be stoned, or thrown from a high place."
    Saudi Ministry of Education Textbooks for Islamic Studies: 2007-2008 Academic Year

    Maybe you can check this source: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Persecution_of_Homosexuals_(Saudi_Arabia)

    This is true... same for Iran
     
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    Saudi women go everywhere unescorted.. I spent nearly 2 decades there... Only Bedouin women drive.
     
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    If you spent two decades there then presumably you speak Arabic?

    If you spent two decades there then presumably you'd know that unescorted women don't go "everywhere" due to the fact that these signs are on display in many places:

    http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2...corted-women-are-not-allowed-in-a-restaurant/

    If you spent two decades there then presumably you'd know that women unescorted by their husbands or male family members are literally always with at least one other woman and not alone.
     
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    Yeah, and Bedouin women aren't driving up into the city.....huh? [​IMG]
     
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    Women often go about their daily routines.. shopping, getting kids to school, going to the bank etc unescorted and without another female.
     

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