Bootcamps teaching REPS not to talk about RAPE "it's just a 4 letter word, purge it"

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  1. cpicturetaker

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    JUST LATE TERM ABORTIONS can be discussed (viable or not and to hell with CHOICE). And apparently, they don't think WOMEN'S HEALTH CARE involves reproductive health?? Really. Talk about 'out of body' experiences. Or maaaybeeee REPUBLICANS think babies are delivered using STORKS!


    In Abortion Messaging Bootcamps, Conservatives Learn Not to Talk About Rape


    by: Genevieve Cato BURNT ORANGE REPORT
    Sun Jul 27, 2014 at 04:30 PM CDT

    Republicans have a problem when it comes to female voters. Not only did they lose the presidential election in 2012 in large part because of a voting gender gap, but an April ABC/Washington Post poll found that Democrats have a 30 point advantage when it comes to issues that particularly pertain to women.

    Now, the New York Times reports, they are holding bootcamps to help coach women on abortion messaging for the midterm election. One key piece of advice? "Rape is a four-letter word. Purge it from your lexicon."

    There have already been half a dozen session so far around the country. Participants are asked to describe why they think abortion is wrong on camera, which is them critiqued by the bootcamp's coaches. There are many tips to remember, such as brevity. According to Marjorie Dannenfelser, president of the anti-abortion group Susan B. Anthony List, which hosts the sessions, "Two sentences is really the goal. Then, stop talking."

    Marilyn Musgrave, a former Colorado congresswoman and anti-choice activist, gives advice on framing the topic when arguing with pro-choice Democrats:

    Don't let them corner you. Put them on their heels. Ask them, 'Exactly when in a pregnancy do you think abortion should be banned?'
    This is a different perspective than the one shown immediately after the 2012 elections. Republicans lost over ten races against vocally pro-choice candidates, almost entirely due to comments directly tied to women's health issues. This year, conservatives not only want to put abortion at the center of the conversation, they want to expand their messaging beyond their base.

    And this is why the bootcamps are happening. Some, like Republican pollster Kellyanne Conway, argue that Democrats have had better messaging on women's health. Conway explains:

    That was one of the top five public relations coups of all time: making their movement pro-choice and purging the ugly word 'abortion' from the lexicon for decades.

    What Conway misses, and perhaps many of the other participants will miss as well, is that the term pro-choice is a descriptive term, not a messaging decision. When someone describes themselves as pro-choice, they are making a statement about their belief that every person has a right to do exactly that: choose. It isn't about removing the word "abortion" from our common conversations. In fact, many pro-choice groups are fighting to bring conversations about abortion into larger society to reduce the stigma around the word. This fundamental misunderstanding of the pro-choice movement is telling, but perhaps not nearly as much as Conway's other piece of advice: don't talk about rape.

    She also believes that reproductive healthcare isn't really women's health:

    Women's health issues are osteoporosis or breast cancer or seniors living alone who don't have enough money for health care.
    But not, it would seem, sexual assault or access to preventative reproductive healthcare.


    Susan B. Anthony's List is not only working through these bootcamps. They are also making giant media buys to put commercials in states where Democrats are fighting to hold their seats in the Senate. One such commercial stars the parents of a child born premature at 24 weeks. The parents assure the viewers that their child is, in fact, a baby, and that this is what pro-life voters are up against.

    Despite the fact that pro-choice people would also agree that the child in question is also a baby, and that once it was born it deserved the best medical care and protection, the goal of these efforts is clear: to shift the conversation to questions about late-term abortions, instead of focusing on the people who are making the choice about whether or not to carry pregnancies to term.

    Though these activists are acting like this is a new tactic, it is nothing out of the ordinary. This kind of rhetoric was present during the struggle around abortion access in Texas last summer, and permeates the debates around laws proposed at the state level across the country. What it means for progressive and pro-choice voters is simple: this fight won't be over any time soon.


    http://www.burntorangereport.com/di...ps-conservatives-learn-not-to-talk-about-rape
     
  2. Tram Law

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    Well, if feminists can bossy and liberals can ban words like Fa----t and ni----, and feminists can ban bossy, why can't they ban rape?

    People always think it's okay to ban words that they find offensive, and this is indeed a slippery slope. It only gets worse before it gets better.
     
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    More bad news: Womens' rights, reporductive or otherwise, does not even crack the Top Ten of American Voters' concerns, despite desperate Leftattempts to try to DEFLECT from the REAL ISSUES, with their favorites Victim Platforms.

    The "four letter words" Obamites have "purged", are " work" and "jobs", as in FULLTIME, and "lies" as in what the current administration gets caught doing on a daily basis.
     
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    That's your comparison?? THE N WORD?? Apparently you don't GET IT. REPUBLICANS are SELF CENSORING. LIBERALS will be glad to
    discuss RAPE.

    OMG help us all!
     
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    What is there to discuss?

    Rape is a felony and has been a felony for centuries.

    Are liberals advocating legalization of rape?
     
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    Apparently you don't get it. You were showing your bigotry and prejudice against Republicans and trashing and bashing them.

    OMFG when will you leftists learn true tolerance

    How shameful.
     
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    The bogus leftist lie narrative on purported "rape culture" is every bit as noxious and inaccurate as the bogus leftist lie narrative on racism. Rape is blessedly an outlier crime that affects few victims, constantly declining, and a tiny fraction of one percent of men ever commit it. To hear the left and MSM blare it, especially on tv dramas and women's hysteria type networks, it's pervasive and constant. It is in fact neither.
     
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    Where?? Certainly not in this country unless of course it was a BLACK man on a WHITE woman. Then it didn't need the name FELONY. It was vigilante justice. (AND as many times as not, the rape allegations were BOGUS).
     
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    Republicans get stuck when it comes to rape and abortion.

    If they oppose allowing an abortion exception for rape....it destroys them with even some "pro-life" -leaning independents.

    If they support an exception for abortion for rape....then they have to explain the contradiction in their rhetoric about "Abortion is taking a human life". Why is it "okay" to "take a human life" depending on how it was conceived.

    And they're trapped.
     
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    Don't you mean "legitimate" rape?
     
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    Taxcutter says:
    The Indiana pens at Michigan City and Pendleton have white rape convicts incarcerated there.
     
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    Taxcutter says:
    Legitimate accusations of rape. AFIK, there is no legit rape.
     
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    Republicans haven't had the women vote for a very long time yet they have won plenty of times.

    I always get a good chuckle when I hear someone say that you need this or that demographic to win because it is completely false. Both parties have a large enough base to win any election if they win the turnout race. Both parties run at about 47% core support and the rest are made up of single issue voters.

    Contrary to popular belief, there is no such thing as an independent.

    Given the fact that the women's choice issue isn't anywhere near the forefront of people's concerns, this whole thing is simply nothing to worry about. I can understand why the left is trying to make it sound like it is a big issue though because they are trying to deflect from the overwhelmingly massive amount of negative news that is surrounding the democratic party at the moment.

    They are literally grasping at straws here.
     
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    Wow i dont exist... Guess i have dont have to show up to work tonight thanks for helping.
     
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    Your grasp of history is just as hilarious as your grasp of everything else.
     
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    More big scoop from an apparently empty house in TX. If you do a whois on the OP's source website, then plug the address into a Google maps, the street view shows an apparently empty house with a for sale sign in front.
     
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    There is nobody that has no opinion on any issue.

    Every single person leans either left or right regardless of what letter they stick behind their name.
     
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    What you are missing is that a person can lean right or left depending on the issue. You are claiming you are right or left period which is not true. Independents do exist. In Mass we are called "Unenrolled". Why you ask? Because in the Mass wisdom having "Independent" under parties confused people thinking they were enrolled into the Independent Party.
     
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    You missed the part of my post where I said that each side has about 47% of core supporters with the rest being single issue voters. However, those single issue voters don't switch back and forth very often. If your issue is pro-life it's doubtful you are ever going to vote democrat no matter if you call yourself an independent or not.
     
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    Guess i am part of the 6%. Then again i dont vote on single issues and i have no allegiance to any party.
     
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    So where's YOUR source that this is true?? The 'RAPE ADVERSE' (to the word, who knows about the act) conducted WORKSHOPS--it is 'sourced'.
     
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    That may be true but you still lean either liberal or conservative.

    Which is it because nobody is completely neutral on every issue.
     
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    Depends on the issue....
     

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