Losses Of Ukrainian Forces

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  1. Jeannette

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    According to Defensenet, these are the Ukrainian losses to date. I did read that the true extent of losses have not been revealed to the Ukrainian people by Poroshenko:


    2,590 extremists "Right Division" who were classified as "National Guard» NGU (National Guard of Ukraine) a body which was formed in 2014.

    2,150 Ukrainian mercenaries from the guild IV Kolomoisky,

    115 officers of the SBU (Ukrainian Security Service), the group of Ukrainian Sumy Alpha Group was fully destroyed and heavy losses were suffered by the units of the Alpha Group of Kiev, Poltava , the Ternopol, the Ivano-Frankovsk, in Lvov, the Rovno, in Lutsk, the Volyn, the Vinnitsa, and Zhitomi.


    Mercenaries from foreign countries:


    -139 Losses for the Polish unit ASBS Othago "

    - 44 losses for the U.S. unit "Greystone"

    - 125 loss to the American unit "Academi"

    - The unit (also mercenary) "group of women sniper Baltic" had 26 losses.

    - 25 operational officers of the CIA and the FBI (13 dead, 12 injured)



    Losses of the Ukrainian Army are as follows:


    -200 Soldiers of the 95 nd Airborne Brigade Zhitomir

    - 480 soldiers of the 25th Airborne Brigade Dnepropetrovsk

    - 490 soldiers of the 79 nd Airborne Brigade Nikolayev

    -485 Soldiers of the 24th Mechanised Brigade Yavorov, in Lvov Oblast

    - 190 soldiers of the 80 th Airborne Constitution Lvov

    - 70 men 3 extract of Ukrainian special forces (Spetsnaz) in Kirovograd

    - 30 men of the 8 th Spetsnaz in Khmelnitsky

    -10 men of the 40th Brigade of the independent Ukrainian Spetsnaz (Minoborony Ukrainy) in Kiev

    - 190 soldiers of the 93 th Mechanised Brigade (Cherkasskoe, Novomoskovsk Raion, Dnepropetrovsk Oblast)

    - 360 soldiers of the 72 th Mechanised Brigade (Belaya Tserkov, Kiev Oblast)

    - 110 soldiers of 28 independent Brigade of Guards (Chernomorskoe, Kominternov Raion, Odessa Oblast)

    - 100 soldiers of the 128 th Mountain Brigade (Zakarpatskaya Oblast)

    - 100 men regional local forces

    - 80 soldiers of the 1st Brigade tathorakismenis (Goncharovskoe, Chernigov Oblast)

    - 55 men of the border passages in Lugansk

    - 50 men of the border passages in Donetsk

    - 30 men of the 51 th Brigade Military Aviation NGU (Aleksandriya, Kirovograd Oblast)

    - 35 soldiers of 16 Brigade Military Aviation (Brody, Lvov Oblast)

    - 40 men of the 831 Wing Aviation (Mirgorod, Poltava Oblast)

    - Five soldiers of the 114 Wing Aviation (Ivano-Frankovsk, Ivano-Frankovsk Oblast)

    - 30 men of the 299 Wing Aviation (Nikolayev)

    - Nine men of the 25th Wing Transport (crew IL-76)

    - 5 crewmembers An-30 that was shot down in Chuguev (Kharkov Oblast) on 6 June


    Total 9,321 dead and 6,340 wounded 20 captured defectors


    These are the material losses:



    One unknown type aircraft which was shot down on 30 July

    2 An-26

    1 An-30

    2 Il-76

    16 Su-25

    7 Su-24

    5 drones

    19 helicopters Mi-8/17/24

    185 tanks T-64

    7 tanks T-72

    1 Chariot "Bulat"

    5 Hummer

    1 Jeep

    19 x GAZ-66 (trucks)

    One staff-car

    1 vehicle engineer (crane)

    1 ZIL-131 (truck)

    26 Ural (trucks)

    29 Kamaz (Trucks)

    3 UAZ-469 vehicles

    3 Nona (A / S mortars)

    2 x 2S3 Akatsiya (A / S Firearms)

    2 x ZU-23-2 (R / R A / A guns)

    8 Grad (ROP)

    6 Uragan (ROP)

    23 x D-30 guns

    17 122 mm mortars.

    103 BMP (TDMA)

    94 BMD (amphibians TDMA)

    211 BTR (APC)


    Reference: Igor Panarin, political scientist, PhD in Psychology, Doctor of Political Sciences, member of the Academy of Military Sciences. Member of the Scientific and Methodological Council of the Central Election Commission of the Russian Federation, a member of the Expert Council Committee on CIS Affairs of the RF Federation Council.

    Department news defencenet.gr
     
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    This dude?


    Igor Nikolaevich Panarin born 30 October 1958)[1] is a Russian professor and political scientist.[2] He is best known for his hypothesis of possible disintegration of the USA into six parts in 2010
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Panarin


    LOL, yep he had his following of select anti-american lunatics a decade ago or so, I did not realize that he is still in business. I am no longer surprised that he is your "reference", your sources of information are getting more hilarious by the day.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    His hypothesis was wrong, but at least he didn't lie like our 'brainwashing' medias, which have a habit of editing out the same parts of a report and spinning the same things. But then again, what's one to expect when they're all owned by the same corporations...or should I say people? :confuse:
     
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    It's worse than that, much worse, he is a conspiracy nut, catering to anti-american conspiracy nuts, his followers were and are lunatics.
     
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    Yet Ukraine won, so.......

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    Only people like Jeanette celebrate deaths. She acts like it is a personal victory for her Uber Liberal causes. Failing to mention the militants deaths is amusing, because compared to the armed forces, we have quite a different ratio. Your numbers are wrong either way :thumbsdown:
     
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    From reports that I've read, the Donbas militia haven't been losing that many men. Most of the casualties have been civilians, that's why they have been leaving for other parts of Ukraine or crossing the border into Russia. The reason they attack and bomb civilian areas is so they can change the ethnic composition in the Eastern half of Ukraine and thereby remain in power.
     
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    As always Jeanette, thanks for providing the official Russian spin on events.
     
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    well, the West is full of his counterparts alike who are anti-Russian, and West media employs them, most Westerners trust what told; go call them lunatics.
     
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    a spin? Russia hasn't used any spin yet, so far she's been telling the truth, unlike the West that has only spins to portray Russia.
     
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    Ukraine hasn't won yet, I don't imagine that they will. How long is it supposed to take to capture Donetsk?
     
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    [video=youtube;Yi7kLfAsFY8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi7kLfAsFY8&feature=player_embedded[/video]
    Ukrainian officer said that the morgue in Artemivs'k full Ukrainian soldiers. He said that the Ukrainian officers will overthrow the Ukrainian authorities. The officer also said that the Ukrainian TV lying.
     
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    I found a news article in MSNBC yesterday. It reported that Ukrainian troop were closing in on rebels. A new massive attack was coming. They also mentioned that 300 Ukrainian troops asked Russia to provide them with a temporary shelter and Ukrainian government was negotiating with Moscow their safe return to Ukraine. At the same time, RT reported about 430 plus Ukrainian troops defected to the Russian side. The article is here: http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-closes-rebel-stronghold-urges-civilians-flee-182319650.html
    No word about defecting Ukrainian soldiers.
     
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    Powell's lies at the UNSC will never be forgotten or forgiven.
     
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    come on, it's one thing to be anti-russian or anti-american, it's a totally different things to come up with ridiculously absurd, loony, unrealistic theories.... How did his garbage nonsense about the break up of the USA work out so far? Lol and give me one good reason why he should be taken more seriously than any other fantazer ili skazochnik? ;)
     
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    just the same as Russia suffering on the hands of tyrants like Stalin and prospering under Gorbatchov hogwash did work with the Western mass media all these years.
     
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    what do your posts have to do with one simple point I am making, the dude is a charlatan and people who take him seriously are morons.
     
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    Of course- Russia is as pure as the driven snow- and would never, ever spin stories, use propaganda or anything like that.

    Because the former KGB officer would find all of that beneath him.
     
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    because right at this moment she needs not to use propaganda, the truth is there for everyone to see: the US meddles in Ukraine affairs and stirs riots to reduce Russian influence there, a typical US policy they use since the days of old.
     
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    The junta was afraid of the army right from the start, that's why they formed the national guard, which consists of the Nazi contingent of Western Ukraine and Maidan. What Poroshenko might have done, is pick out many of these officers from these same areas to be in charge of the men. I know some of the Ukrainian men had complained that the officers simply deserted them, and would never visit except during the day.

    Basically they are being sent to die, and the Donbas militia is making appeals to their mothers and wives not to allow their sons to go. The other day alone one thousand men died, and they are being burned alive in their tanks. Someone said they are killing off their own gene pool.
     
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    Only one hundred eighty soldiers wanted to return to Ukraine. The rest wanted to remain in Russia. From what I gathered they are expecting more surrenders because they have no food or water and there is no way Kiev can supply them. The only die hards are the Nazis in the National Guard, I guess because they're fearful they might get the same medicine they dished out, and the Polish mercenaries as well as the criminal oligarch Kolomoisky's paid mercenaries. He's wanted by Interpol for committing war crimes.

    As for the Polish soldiers, if they surrendered and they were found not to be mercenaries but Nato soldiers, as has been suspected, it would cause international repercussions. This is probably why they are not surrendering, although they really have no alternative.
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    This is true.
     
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    Given how similar all this is to the Nazi Sudetenland adventure I hope you are feeling proud. In the nuclear age you people will be the death of us all :(
     
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    There is nothing similar here. Ukraine is a part of Russia and Ukrainians are Russians. This is entirely artificial political formation created by former Soviet communist rulers and recently enhanced by the coup and maintained by EU and USA. The problem will be solved like former problem with East German (GDR) was solved. Ukraine may stay even independent, but without being a puppet of EU. Ukraine is historically and geographically a part of Russia.
     
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    Having been to the Ukraine a couple of years ago I can assure you the Ukrainians certainly don't see it that way. Neither did the Czechs :( This is simply an attempt at post Soviet empire re aquisition nothing more
     

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