How do you like that US funded and trained ISIS?

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  1. Arphen

    Arphen Banned

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    Now that ISIS, or the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, is becoming a threat so powerful Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel told reporters at the Pentagon that the terrorist group is “beyond anything we’ve seen,” it’s time to remind everyone of a few little factoids regarding how exactly that came to be.
    Hagel’s exact quote was:
    “They are beyond just a terrorist group. They marry ideology, a sophistication of … military prowess. They are tremendously well-funded. This is beyond anything we’ve seen.”
    Well-trained in military prowess. Tremendously well-funded. Super sophisticated terrorists. Hm.
    And how do you think they got that way so fast? Super magic terrorist training money tree fairy dust?
    Apparently the mainstream establishment media would more likely attempt to have people believe such a thing exists rather than expose the blatant reality that yes, the U.S. has trained and funded ISIS and without the U.S. government, ISIS would not be the threat it has become.
    It came out back in 2012 that the U.S., Turkey and Jordan were jointly running a US CIA and Special Forces command training base for Syrian rebels out of the Jordanian town of Safawi, but apparently according the Jordanian officials, that training ‘wasn’t meant to be used in Iraq’ (via WND):
    Syrian rebels who would later join the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, or ISIS, were trained in 2012 by U.S. instructors working at a secret base in Jordan, according to informed Jordanian officials.
    The officials said dozens of future ISIS members were trained at the time as part of covert aid to the insurgents targeting the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in Syria. The officials said the training was not meant to be used for any future campaign in Iraq.
    So future ISIS members were specially trained by the U.S. government, huh? Ya don’t say. But they weren’t supposed to be used for campaigns in Iraq?
    Oops.
    This was, at least superficially, so they could wage war against the Bashar al-Assad regime in Syria, and again, they weren’t called ISIS at the time, they were referred to as the Syrian rebels.
    But the government won’t even admit what they’ve done here. Instead, they’re just bombing Iraq and hoping for the best…
    Meanwhile, our government is still funding the “Syrian rebels” today!
    Back at the end of June, Obama was requesting another $500 million in aid for them, even though the fact that many were now calling themselves ISIS was so blatantly obvious even back then that it could no longer be disputed
     
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    Do you have a link? Is WND your source?
     
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    Don't forget the funding and support they got from our allies Saudia Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and others. Shocking that a well armed, well funded and well trained group can become a well armed, well funded and well trained group, huh?

    I can imagine it now. "Hey guys, lets build this awesome military group to fight Assad in Syria. No, I see you shaking your heads at me, of course they wouldn't use that money, training and support to fight anyone else. They'll be loyal, I swear <wink wink>. Besides, if they get out of control we can go fight them in Syria just like we wanted to all along <wink>. Nobody will suspect a thing <giggle>."
     
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    Glad you figured it out!:salute:
     
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    ABSOLUTELY CORRECT...

    Al Nusra Front Captures Israel-Syria Border Crossing
    Israel Daily News Stream4 hours ago

    The Al-Qaeda affiliated Al Nusra Front captured the Israeli-Syrian border crossing at Quneitra. The Times of Israel reports that an IDF officer was moderately injured by a stray bullet. Several mortars landed in Israeli territory.

    The IDF said it had not determined whether the mortars were fired into Israel intentionally or were a spillover from fighting between rival factions on the Syrian side of the border.
     
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    I would also like to see any links to the allegations posed in this thread.

    Thank you.
     
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    I have seen absolutely no proof whatsoever of the outlandish allegations above. Some actual evidence would be nice.
     
  8. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You won't find it in the MSM. These things are available only from private sources, like voltaire network:

    Behind the anti-terror alibi, the gas war in the Levant​

    by Thierry Meyssan​


    Though everyone adheres to Washington and its Gulf allies’ anti-terrorist discourse, everyone understands that it is only a rhetorical justification for a war that has other purposes.

    The United States say they want to destroy the Islamic Emirate which they created and which performs for them the ethnic cleansing necessary to its plan for the remodeling of the "Broader Middle East".

    Stranger still, they say they want to fight in Syria alongside the moderate opposition which is composed of the same jihadists.
    Finally, they destroyed Rakka buildings that had been evacuated two days earlier by the Islamic Emirate.

    For Thierry Meyssan, behind these apparent contradictions the gas war continues.

    The US air campaign in Iraq and Syria is puzzling: it is impossible to destroy a terrorist group exclusively by air strikes. In Iraq, the United States and the GCC coupled their actions with those of Iraqi troops and Kurdish ground forces.

    In Syria, they have no serious force to fight against the Islamic Emirate. And even in this case, "the bombings are not able to affect the capacity of the Islamic Emirate or its operations in other parts of Iraq or Syria," according to General William Mayville, chief of operations at the US Chiefs of Staff.

    Moreover, and despite official declarations, the Islamic Emirate is a creation of the United States and the GCC, and it unflaggingly serves their interests:

    Read more here...
    http://www.voltairenet.org/article185495.html

    or here:
    http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.ca/2014_10_01_archive.html

    and here...
    The real name of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is “Simon Elliott.”
    The so-called “Elliot” was recruited by the Israeli Mossad and was trained in espionage and psychological warfare against Arab and Islamic societies.

    This information was attributed to Edward Snowden and published by newspapers and other Web sites: the head of the “Islamic State” Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, has cooperated with the U.S. Secret Service, British and Israel to create an organization capable of attracting terrorist extremists from around the world.


    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/04/french-report-isil-leader-mossad/
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    Does that help? There are several more sites who bring articles you will never find in the mainstream media. We all have to play detective.
    What I don't understand is, why don't our governments tell us the truth? We might and could be of help to them. After all, we citizens are stuck in our countries and are interested in keeping all of us safe and prosperous and healthy, and debt-free, too!! :clapping:
     

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