Conservatives and Racism

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by longknife, Aug 30, 2014.

  1. longknife

    longknife New Member

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    Bet you didn't know that, did you? :salute:

    And then comes this:

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    Oh my goodness. How can that be? :roll:

    So, while Liberals rant and rave about it, conservative are DOING something about it. We don't care what your color is – only how you assimilate with and produce something beneficial for society.

    Read the story @ http://www.redstate.com/2014/08/29/race-conservative-view/
     
  2. rayznack

    rayznack Well-Known Member

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    Nice faulty premise. But good job posting a pic of well dressed Blacks. That must prove their brain volume is as large as Whites or East Asians.

    Why would you want people with inherently lower IQ assimilated in your society?

    Perhaps that's a moot question; as no-where are Blacks able to assimilate as equals - due to their low IQ - in a society containing Whites - be it Canada, UK, Brazil or Cuba.

    Funny that.
     
  3. longknife

    longknife New Member

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    Excuse me but your bigotry and racism is showing.

    It has absolutely nothing to do with conservatism.
     
  4. Isalexi888

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    Lol...rightwingers are really the ones doing something about racism, I hope this is a joke.
     
  5. Daily Bread

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    On the right your respected as a human being, on the left your respected by being useful.
     
  6. After Hours

    After Hours Well-Known Member

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    Actually, it has everything to do with conservatism.

    Unless you are convinced that poster is a hippie liberal.
     
  7. longknife

    longknife New Member

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    The claim that members of ANY race is superior to another is the most racist and bigoted statement possible. Something spouted by Albert Sperr, Heinrich Himmler, and Adolf Hitler.

    Do you enjoy being in that company?
     
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    Once again- you have no story in your OP.

    A picture and a link.

    Were you trying to say something?

    Who knows.
     
  9. DarkDaimon

    DarkDaimon Well-Known Member

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    You guys do know that FDR flipped the parties in the 1930s right? Either that, or the south was a lot more liberal:

    1924 election results by state (for some reason they swapped the normal colors we are used to)
    Original Link: http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=1924&off=0&f=1
    Red = Democrat
    Blue = Republican
    Green = Progressive

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  10. vino909

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    wow... and I thought the Ice Age got rid of all the dinosaurs...
     
  11. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hmmm, a majority believe that racism has gotten worse under the current liberal leadership. Go figure.
     
  12. rayznack

    rayznack Well-Known Member

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    You mean that it's factually accurate to say Whites have higher IQ than Blacks, and that evidence overwhelmingly supports a biological basis for the gap?
     
  13. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    A couple of fundamental problems with the linked OpEd.

    First of all it's written by a completely unknown author, Jake (Diary), that openly admits it's his person opinion not reflective of conservatives in general.

    Next is the fact that after making excuses for why conservatives refuse to address the issue of anti-black racial oppression in the United State he fails to acknowledge that 8 out of 10 Republicans expressed explicit anti-black racial prejudice in a 2012 study (up from 7 out of 10 in 2008 ) and that virtually all anti-black hate groups are extremist right-wing organizations.

    If Republicans want to address anti-black racial prejudice in the United States the first thing they need to do is clean-up there own house because the vast majority of anti-black racial prejudice is coming from the "social conservatives" in America today.
     
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    Actually...you are wrong. It is the social conservatives who are least racist of any ideological group. Social Conservatives believe that man and woman was made in the image of God, and that they have God given rights that are equal under the eyes of God.

    That means a social conservative isn't going to allocate value of a human being because of skin color. That would be going against God.

    Liberals view conservatives racist---because conservatives believe that a person should be measured by the merit of their character, not the color of their skin.

    Liberals believe some colors are special and are to be treated differently. Liberals also believe that some bad behavior is justifiable when a person of a certain skin color is doing it. Liberals have very low expectations of people of color. Perhaps they think they aren't capable?

    Social Conservatives are truely color-blind. Which in the eyes of liberals make them racist. Because they don't expect different standards from different skin colors.

    So who are the real racists? The ones that manipulate people of color and keep them down to the best of ability so that they can serve as useful tools for the liberal agenda. I mean really.....how powerful would the liberal agenda be, if blacks as agroup were as successful as whites? How would the liberal agenda be powerful without uneducated, vulnerable, non-english speaking illegal immigrants? Conservatives want immigrants assimilated. Liberals want them separate from American culture and vulnerable.

    Conservatives want all people to succeed---that brings power to conservatives.
     
  15. longknife

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    I was trying to say that, unlike liberals, conservatives are all-inclusive and want everybody from every race, religion, and walk of like to take full part in the beautiful opportunities this nation provides.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Two fundamental problems exist.

    First and foremost is the often held "social conservative" belief that the Bible is the Supreme Law of the Land as opposed to the US Constitution. This was the problem in the 1950's when the motto of the United States was changed from E Pluribus Unum (Latin: From Many, One) that had existed since the American Revolution to "In God We Trust" and when the Pledge of Alliegance was changed to include "One Nation Under God" when, in fact, we are "One Nation Under the US Constitution" in the United States of America.

    Next is the fact that social conservatives are obviously hypocrites saying one thing and doing another. They give lip-service to equality but then also have the highest level of explicit anti-black racial prejudice of any demographic group. The studies were not wrong when they identified that 79% of Republicans expressed explicit anti-black racial prejudice and racial prejudice is the primary cause of racial discrimination.

    If the "social conservatives" actually believed what they say about equality then they would be addressing the high level of explicit anti-black racial prejudice among Republicans which is twice as high as that same explicit anti-black racial prejudice held by Democrats.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Then they have to address the fact that 8 out of 10 Republicans express explicit anti-black racial prejudice that prevents blacks from taking "full part in the beautiful opportunites this nation provides."
     
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    8 out of 10 republicans? Really? I find that very hard to believe.
     
  19. longknife

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    Just where the hell do you get that tripe? Provide a link unless you want to show how racist and bigoted you are.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    It maybe hard to believe but it is true.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/10/27/poll-black-prejudice-america/1662067/

    79% is basically 8 out of 10 Republicans. We can also note that this is not a "stand alone" study but was backed up by a study from 2008 that reflected that 72%, or 7 out of 10 Republicans, expressed explicit anti-black racial prejudice at that time. Many attribute the increase in anti-black racial prejudice among Republicans to President Obama, a black man, being elected to office. There has also been a significant increase in anti-black right-wing hate groups since Obama was elected to office.

    There are no studies that reflect a fundamental difference in results of these studies on racial prejudice. It's not like a Republican can point to another study and claim only 60% of Republicans express explicit anti-black racial prejudice. These are the only percentages there are and must be assumed to be accurate within the margin of error of the studies.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    And with good information to back up that belief as the number of extremist rigtht-wing hate groups has significantly increased since Obama was elected and explicit anti-black racial prejudice by Republicans has increased from 72% in 2008 to 79% in 2012. So yes, anti-black racial prejudice has increased under the Obama adminstration and it's coming from the "right" in America based upon all of the studies I'm aware of.
     
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    Hmm, you seem to have left out the increased black on white crime.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Numerous factors affect IQ test scores other than intelligence and IQ test scores do not measure overall human intelligence as they were never intended to do that according to the APA. Anyone attempting to rationalize that blacks are less intelligent than whites based upon IQ test scores is a racist that ignores the scientific information related to standardized IQ tests.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    I've just provided the undisputed studies that establish this as a fact (within the margin of error of the studies).

    Republicans cannot cite any number other than the most recent (2012) study results of 79% of Republicans expressing explicit anti-black racial prejudice because there are no conflicting studies. They don't want to believe it but they can't refute it.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    This is an example of rationalizing anti-black racial prejudice. It ignores the social factors behind the statistics. For example it's more logical to rob a person with money than one without money and whites have more money than blacks and therefore whites are the preferred targets of robbery by both blacks and whites. It also ignores that generational poverty also increases the likelihood of a person becoming a criminal. It also ignores the anti-black racial prejudice of law enforcement and our criminal justice system.

    This is the kind of anti-black racial prejudice the Republican Party needs to address within it's own ranks.
     

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