The 21st Century Saladin...

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  1. pwillie

    pwillie Active Member Past Donor

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    ...is attacking the Jews and Christians...and will bring down America....just like he did Europe...He is.....Abdullah!.
     
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    Who are you calling a 21st century Saladin?
     
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    pwillie Active Member Past Donor

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    ....King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia..
     
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    william walker New Member

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    Saladin no he united Syria and Egypt into an Empire, than put his eyes on the Crusader Kingdoms to reclaim his soul with God. Nothing to do with Saudi Arabia. Or the military for that matter.
     
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    Not to mention, Saladin was not an Arab, but a Kurd.
     
  6. pwillie

    pwillie Active Member Past Donor

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    Arabs..Kurds
    etc...all the same...Muslims....
     
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    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

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    It's got a whole lot to do with the military, lol.

    But, no, I do not believe "Saudi Arabia" existed at the time.

    Besides...I'm still unclear as to the nature of Isis. Many people do not seem to know that these are groups of rebels and terrorists funded by the US to remove the Syrian president...or try to. They were paid and outfitted with weapons and reconnaisance and we attempted to aid them with military strikes. Israel was already aiding them with their own military strikes.

    I'm not sure if this is Saladin against the Crusaders...or the Crusaders pretending to be Saladin.
     
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    Mushroom Well-Known Member

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    Mexico... the United States... all the same... Americans.
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Kurds are neither Semitic nor Turkic.
    Kurds are Indo European.

    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


    No :flagcanada:
     
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    pwillie Active Member Past Donor

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    Leave the war in the middle east....that means keep our troops on our borders...Kurds,Nurds,********s of any kind....stay in the middle east...
     
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    Saladin was a Kurd from Ticrit and had a reputation as an honorable warrior. He was a Muslim.

    King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia is killing neither Jews nor Christians and is friendly towards the West.. You might check the track record of the al Saud over the past 70-80 years.
     
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    Well, it had nothing to do with his soul, and everything to do with acquiring an empire and wealth; charging pilgrims fees for visiting Jerusalem was very lucrative, as was controlling the ports and the caravan trade heading for them. The 'honorable warrior' myth doesn't hold up under historical scrutiny. He was as much a weasel and back stabbing thief as the rest of his fellow empire builders.
     
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    pwillie Active Member Past Donor

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    Saladin was no more or less than a modern day ISIL leader...He ruled with a "Semitar" at the back of a mans neck! The Saudi's are the behind the scenes influence of ISIL movement..Who do you think financed Barak Obamas elections?:worship::worship:
     
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    This is from Fordham.

    The King was puzzled and unaware of anything better that he could do. He demanded of Saif ad(*)Din, Saladin's brother, that he act as go(*)between and seek the best conditions be could get for a truce between them. Saif ad(*)Din was an uncommonly liberal man who bad been brought, in the course of many disputes, to revere the King for his singular probity. Saif ad(*)Din carefully secured peace terms on these conditions: that Ascalon, which was an object of fear for Saladin's empire so long as it was standing, be destroyed and that it be rebuilt by no one during three years beginning at the following Easter.[March 28, 1193] After three years, however, whoever had the greater, more flourishing power, might have Ascalon by occupying it. Saladin allowed Joppa to be restored to the Christians.

    They were to occupy the city and its vicinity, including the seacoast and the mountains, freely and quietly.

    Saladin agreed to confirm an inviolate peace between Christians and Saracens, guaranteeing for both free passage and access to the Holy Sepulcher of the Lord without the exaction of any tribute and with the freedom of bringing objects for sale through any land whatever and of exercising a free commerce.

    When these conditions of peace had been reduced to writing and read to him, King Richard agreed to observe them, for he could not hope for anything much better, especially since he was sick, relying upon scanty support, and was not more than two miles from the enemy's station. Whoever contends that Richard should have felt otherwise about this peace agreement should know that he thereby marks himself as a perverse liar.

    Things were thus arranged in a moment of necessity. The King, whose goodness always imitated higher things and who, as the difficulties were greater, now emulated God himself, sent legates to Saladin. The legates informed Saladin in the hearing of many of his satraps, that Richard had in fact sought this truce for a three year period so that he could go back to visit his country and so that, when he had augmented his money and his men, he could return and wrest the whole territory of Jerusalem from Saladin's grasp if, indeed, Saladin were even to consider putting up resistance.

    To this Saladin replied through the appointed messengers that, with his holy law and God almighty as his witnesses, he thought King Richard so pleasant, upright, magnanimous, and excellent that, if the land were to be lost in his time, he would rather have it taken into Richard's mighty power than to have it go into the hands of any other prince whom be had ever seen.

    http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/1192peace.asp

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    LOLOL.. You don't know anything about the al Saud and they certainly did NOT finance Obama's election.. You are a laugh riot.
     
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    Saladin has a way of fostering doubt in his intelligence.. then you take his allegiance...King Hazbullah has Bonzo's number...(Obama) and the ISIL folks arethe modern Saladin!....He will rule the middle east...
     
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    The caravan trade thru Palestine was pretty much defunct by the 11th century.

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    Who is King "Hazbullah"?

    If you are trying to be cute, its lame.

    ISIL isn't Saladin and Saudi Arabia has NOTHING to do with ISIL.
     
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    Vast majority of Muslims are not Arabs
     
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    The new Saladin? King Abdullah? Seriously?
    I wonder if you know him ...

    A part he's a bit aged to record the deeds that Saladin recorded, he is not "attacking the Jews and Christians..." and he will not "bring down America" [overall because to bring down America would mean to condemn his reign to be conquered by ISIS !
     
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    You must be Muslim....The Saudi's want our heads...but you like to think like the"Great One"...Mr. Bonzo.History is repeating its self...The "Hoards" from the East will change the world for ever...
     
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    Nice display of the paranoia of ignorance. " Hoards" of what exactly? Oh wait, you must mean "hordes". I have to agree that the Chinese and Indians will definitely change the world forever, but then again EVERYONE changes their little part of the world forever in their present and can't use the future to return to the past.
     
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    It makes no sense to lie about something so easily refuted, unless you're insane yourself.
     
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    The Chinese and Indians will absorb the nation that our
    Christian founders died for...no heritage will be sustained...Bonzo is doing a great job of eliminating the standards that made America the greatest nation...
     
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    Taxcutter says:
    Abdullah has a lot of growing to do to just reach Saladin's knees.
     
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    https://people.hofstra.edu/geotrans/eng/ch2en/conc2en/silkroad.html

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    Abdullah is a fine, thoughtful man and a beloved leader..

    You'd like him if you'd ever met him or talked with him.. He's very pro-American.

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    Abdullah is a fine, thoughtful man and a beloved leader..

    You'd like him if you'd ever met him or talked with him.. He's very pro-American.
     
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    Taxcutter says:
    That may be, but it doesn't put him in Saladin's class.
    I'm thinking more like Lorenzo di Medici.
     

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