The Ongoing Black on White Rape Epidemic

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  1. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    First off, I ask that you follow the site rules and respectfully contribute to this thread and stay on topic. If you feel you cannot do that, please do not post. This is a real topic and deserves real discussion.



    In 2005 there were 37,460 rapes that occurred between black men and white women. That same year, there were 0* rapes between white men and black women (* according to the report, 0 can include any number between 0 and 10).

    http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus05.pdf (Table 42)

    Other years show similar results... a disproportionately high amount of rapes committed by blacks, against whites, and the reverse is almost unheard of.

    Just yesterday a black male student attempted to put his arm around his teacher after class. When she refused his advance, he body slammed her to the ground, choked her unconscious, raped her, and then stole her money, leaving the discarded condom in her purse for her to find later.

    Last year, a similar story occurred. A black male teen propositioned his teacher, she refused his advance, and he retaliated by raping and murdering her.

    And there are other similar stories as well.

    This topic, of course, is not discussed openly in society due to the fear of being labeled "racist". I can't help but feel that if the races were reversed, and white men were out raping tens of thousands of black women every year, with virtually no black men raping white women, there wouldn't be the same hesitation to talk about it. Clearly there is a double standard at work, but the question remains, what is causing this?

    Were the delayed gratification studies done in the 1940's-1960's true? Are blacks more likely to prefer instant gratification and immediate short term reward without caring as much about the consequences as members of other races?

    Are blacks really much more likely to contain the genetic allele known as the "warrior gene", which makes one more likely to operate under "fight or flight" mode, often resulting in more impulsive behavior?

    Are blacks simply targeting white women to get back at white men for perceived historical injustices?

    Regardless of the above, I think the left-wing media plays a big part. Take a look at the following videos and see if you notice a pattern:

    [video=youtube;wsRKrflPsow]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsRKrflPsow[/video]

    [video=youtube;SKJCAF-eYxY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUZ-KrpBXzLL1Lx1Fqbc9rIg&v=SKJCAF-eYxY[/video]

    [video=youtube;QfAdm7Mna8w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfAdm7Mna8w[/video]

    There are seemingly hundreds of these types of commercials that all have the same basic theme - strong, confident, smart black man providing contrast to an ugly, dumb, weak white male, usually in front of a white female. These are just commercials... there are many examples from TV and Hollywood that can be shown as well to support the argument.

    Interracial relationships are being pushed by the media onto society. Black men are growing up with the impression that all women want them. When combining this attitude with a historical hatred for white men, black men aggressively pursue white women. Meanwhile, white women are growing up being conditioned into accepting interracial relationships and are absolutely terrified of appearing "racist" by refusing the advances of black men. This hesitation could cause them to put themselves in dangerous situations, which might seem like a better alternative than having their friends see them as racists. An outright refusal by the white female might be seen as racist hatred by the black male, which could be the motivation behind the rape and murder stories I listed above.

    Any other explanations for this huge disparity in rape statistics?
     
  2. munter

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    Black women aren't especially attractive?
     
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    Asking or telling.
     
  4. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes.

    1) Racists see what they want to see, even to the point of conjecturing about statistics that they obviously don't understand. For instance, anyone with basic reading comprehension skills can see that the category of data that is being referred to doesn't simply include rape. The full category title is "Rape/Sexual assault." Sexual assault is any unwelcome advance including kissing, touching, patting etc. This particular category also includes verbal threats of rape and sexual assault. So ignoring this inclusion is simply another dishonest and biased attempt to fluff the stats by racist who point to the statistics they don't understand with a gleam in their eye.
    2) The most current data set available is 2008. I wonder why the 2005 data set seems to be the one most referred to by racists...
    3) With the events that have put a spotlight on the antagonistic relationship between minorities and police, it's not hard to assert that many of these sexual assaults simply go unreported skewing the statistics significantly. Then there are the cases where rape kit processing is backlogged.


    As mentioned in the short list above, the 2008 data set paints a significantly different view:

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    Notice the asterisks? Those indicate estimates based on 10 or fewer samples. This is a statistically insignificant value which means that the results are pretty much the same.
     
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    Is the rape worse for a white woman if the attacker is black instead of white?


    The size of the population of women by race is different. In other words, in a random selection of women, one is most likely to pull out a white woman.
     
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    That will go right over their tin hatted heads. Reminds of once, years ago, when an American woman complainingly asked me why foreign men dated almost exclusively Japanese women here in Japan. I told her that obviously 1) they weren't gay and 2) 99.9% of the women were Japanese..She really seemed confused about that.
     
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    Speaking only for myself, I have a difficult time finding black women attractive, with very few exceptions. I'm not attracted to Asian women either. It's not a racist thing. I just don't find them attractive, which makes me wonder why the myth that white men fantasize about black women. Not this white guy!

    I really do think that has a lot to do with the disproportionate number of black on white rapes. I've only known one white guy in my life who really digs black chicks. Just one. Ok, that's anecdotal and not scientific, but I'm just saying it seems pretty rare for a white guy to be attracted to a black woman.
     
  8. Brewskier

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    There was a great thread a while back by Anders Hoveland detailing some of the reasons why 7 out of 10 black females are single.

    Unintended Consequences: The Plight of Black Women.

    In short, the normalizing of interracial relationships has not been kind to black women.
     
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    You go from black men being rapists to black women being ugly. Hey, how's that outreach to minorities and women goin' for you conservatives?*



    * Who never are concerned about race



    HAR!
     
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    OK, 37,460 rapes and sexual assaults by blacks against whites, with 0 rapes and sexual assaults by whites against blacks. The disparity still exists.

    There was more sampling data available in 2005, thus the number is more reliable.

    Actually, without evidence for that claim it's not easy to assert that, at all.

    Wouldn't this backlog underreport the amount of rapes being committed by blacks on whites as well? Why would that only affect black women?

    It's your opinion that the sampling data is "statistically insigificant" and your bias to reject evidence that reflects badly on a fellow Democrat voting bloc is clearly evident. The disparity in rape/sexual assault is visible throughout the different victimization surveys that have been done over the years, with 2005 having more sampling data to rely on. You can argue against 2008's numbers, but that has no bearing on the legitimacy of 2005's numbers, which you didn't really address in any meaningful way. We can still see tens of thousands of whites being victimized by blacks, with the reverse simply not happening.
     
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    Statistically? Yes. Black men are more likely to have STDs than white men, and are statistically more likely to commit murder.

    I've seen this argument before and it doesn't work unless you admit that black men are statistically way more likely to be rapists than white men. Secondly, there were 0 rapes of black women by white men. There are approximately 102,300,000 white men and 21,450,000 black women in the country. If it was simply a matter of statistical selection, don't you think we'd have more than 0?
     
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    I have a contribution to make, Brewskier.....a question to you....


    what EXACTLY do you want DONE about this "epidemic of black on white rape"? Specifically? In detail???
     
  13. Brewskier

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    For the country to take notice of it. For the media to report on it. If the races were reversed you'd be posting 10 talkingpointsmemo threads a day talking about it. When whites were lynching blacks in the South, society's answer wasn't "murder is murder", or "is the victim any more dead because a white person killed him?"
     
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    Even assuming this warrior gene exists, does this mean that people can be influenced by their own biology? Is homosexuality a choice?
     
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    Some are amazing, but that isn't really a skin color issue. Its more about their attitude and how well they take care of themselves.
     
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    I think sexuality is not a black or white type of thing, it's more of a spectrum. For some, it's not a choice at all. They're simply gay or straight. Just as I could never be sexually attracted to a man, gays could never be attracted to a member of the opposite sex, even if they wanted to be. For others, there are varying shades of grey, and they may have enough attraction to both to actually make the choice to pursue one or the other.

    Though I really don't see what that has to do with this thread.
     
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    Okay...and THEN what?
     
  18. Brewskier

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    What makes you think there's a next step, necessarily? I'd like to think that once whites are aware of what is happening they can take the steps necessary to better protect themselves.
     
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    As stated, the number is NOT statistically significant. That means any disparity is perceived and not supported by the numbers.

    Thank you for confirming that you're basically just making a bunch of (*)(*)(*)(*) up. The methodology is given for the surveys.

    The 2005 data set is produced using 38,800 households with a total of 67,000 individuals being interviewed.
    The 2008 data set is produced using 92,390 households and 162,940 persons.

    So you're wrong. Completely wrong. If anything, the 2008 survey ismore accurate due to the inclusion of a much much larger sample. Since the numbers in the survey are weighted, the difference in accuracy could be pretty significant.

    Which is another reason why racists prefer to use the 2005 numbers which support their limited and pathetic worldview.

    You know what? I'm going to withdrawal those points in reference to the survey. Why? Because due to the nature of how the data is collected, they are unrelated to the data produced.

    No... it's not my opinion. It's stated by the tables provided. That's what the asterisk denotes:

    *Estimate is based on 10 or fewer sample cases

    Honestly, if you don't understand what "significant" means in reference to statistics, you really shouldn't be trying to interpret any type of data. I realize you probably just got this information of a 7 year old thread on some right-wing site, but those people aren't exactly known for anything that resembles logical thought.

    As shown above, you're just making (*)(*)(*)(*) up. That pretty much invalidates your entire OP since you don't even understand basic statistics terminology and are likely just parroting a standard meme that has been making the rounds on sites with a biased agenda.

    You started your thread with the typical racist dogwhistle of "Black on White Rape Epidemic." Then trotted out a much older survey which I countered with the LATEST data by that same survey.

    Far from showing the hyperbolic "Epidemic" that racists claim, the data shows that, once again, racists are just cherry-picking from data that they apparently either don't understand or are deliberately misrepresenting.
     
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    Thanks for sharing your completely baseless assertion. Feel free to contact the Bureau of Justice Statistics and see if they agree with you.

    There is more sampling data available in 2005 on the topic of black and white rape statistics. You can verify yourself that there is no asterisk next to the number of white victims raped/sexually assaulted by blacks in 2005. That means there is more than 10 sample cases available, unlike with 2008's numbers, which you rely on.

    Feel free to elaborate. Looks like more backpedaling to me and, given your post history, it would be completely in character.

    Nowhere in the survey does it state that the number is "statistically insignificant". You fabricated that, based on your own self-serving agenda.

    False. I know how badly you'd like to invalidate this topic, because it doesn't reflect well on your favorite minority voting bloc, but the statistics are there for all to see. You can't refute it. I don't see why you are so intent on doing so, though. Are you really questioning whether black people commit more violent crime? I thought that was common knowledge among even you far-left socialists, who conveniently choose to live in all white suburbs when you are given the chance? I was of the impression that you guys moved past denial and were onto making excuses for it. Poverty is a good one, even though I can shut down that one as well.

    And that data still supports my point. Thousands of whites being raped/sexaully assaulted by blacks, no blacks being raped/sexually assaulted by whites. I'm not sure why you feel 2008 somehow invalidates my argument. Probably just wishful thinking on your part. You've got nothing else.

    I'm doing no such thing. Blacks commit a disproportionately high amount of violent crime in this country, which includes rape, and the victimization surveys show how one sided interracial crime is between blacks and whites. That spells big trouble for your "we are the world" progressive utopian vision, but I prefer to deal in reality, even if you don't. Sorry todd.
     
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    So you just want people "aware" of the "epidemic of black on white rape".....

    but you want NOTHING DONE ABOUT IT?!?!?! except "protect themselves"?

    Doesn't that work for any crime...protecting yourself. Or is there something SPECIAL (and specific) you want done to protect themselves from the "epidemic"?
     
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    Very much to the contrary. There are some who are almost violently attractive. I've mused over this my whole life. Some time ago, I pretty much concluded that these black women are so alluring, and many black males are so aggressive because of their genetic make-up and the environmental conditions of life in Africa. It's common for huge numbers of Africans to be killed in war, famine, and so forth. It's equally common for them to breed at a rate that offsets the mortality rate.
    Relating to the thread, my simple conclusion is that black males are much more sexually motivated.
     
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    Knowledge is power. Just think what would happen in this country if more whites thought like me and less whites thought like you. We'd have less whites being victimized by non-white minorities. The narrative that you and yours push would be largely ineffective. What would happen if your ideological movement couldn't guilt the majority into giving you what you wanted?
     
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    Gorn.... are you arguing just for the sake of making noise? It's YOU who are laying the premise for anyone to go on about what manner of "protection" one might prefer. Why are you not offering your own thoughts on rape prevention?
     
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    How about the rapes in Sweden? Why is Sweden now the rape capital of Europe?

    Are the Laplanders coming out of the Artic Circle and raping the women around Stockholm? Or is it your Black/Arab Muslims friends?

    sweden.jpg

    report from the organization Save the Children told that Swedish girls are scared of being raped, a possibility that appears very real to them. A survey carried out among ninth-grade boys in the immigrant-dominated suburb of Rinkeby showed that in the last year, 17% of the boys had forced someone to have sex, 31% had hurt someone so badly that the victim required medical care, and 24% had committed burglary or broken into a car. Sensational statistics, but they appear to have been published only in a daily newssheet that is distributed free on the subways.

    “It is not as wrong raping a Swedish girl as raping an Arab girl,” says Hamid, in an interview about a gang rape involving a Swedish girl and immigrant perps. “The Swedish girl gets a lot of help afterwards, and she had probably f**ked before, anyway. But the Arab girl will get problems with her family. For her, being raped is a source of shame. It is important that she retains her virginity… It is far too easy to get a Swedish whore… girl, I mean;” says Hamid, and laughs over his own choice of words. “I don’t have too much respect for Swedish girls. I guess you can say they get f**ked to pieces.”
    http://topconservativenews.com/2011/02/immigration-turns-sweden-into-rape-capitol-of-europe/
     

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