Police Brutality

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  1. Aphotic

    Aphotic Banned

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    http://www.globalresearch.ca/increa...utnumber-americans-killed-in-iraq-war/5361554

    Ridiculous. So, over 5,000 civilians killed by our militarized police forces. In March 2012 the number of troops lost in Iraq was 4,487. The 5,000 number means, since 9/11, a person has been killed by police every single day for 13 years.

    How is this acceptable?

    In my home state, Eric Frein killed a police officer, and wounded another in an ambush at a state police barracks.

    Can we not expect more of these vigilante shootings in the future if the police brutality doesn't stop?
     
  2. nicerwarlock

    nicerwarlock New Member

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    Just blame Congress and the US Armed Forces; they don't care about Americans, ever.
     
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    You can't be serious ! They deal with unstable, mental disturbed citizens and are required to protect us from these NUTS . Are you trying to say ALL 5,000 killed were unjustified ?

    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."

    " The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
     
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    maybe because US society is a sick society... Maybe because the police (known as one of the most useless on the planet) don´t know working. in a society with so many opportunities to work like USA, I guess the most useless are those who dedicate themselves to the police..braggarts, useless, barely neurons ... they are such idiots that think a gun can solve everything, as if they were in one of those silly films of John Wayne!!! ... What a difference in Canada, Europe, Australia, Japan etc etc! or ... maybe because it is a society ruled by fear ... unlike European or Canadian ones ... the Yankees always seem to live in fear .. fear when traveling abroad, fear when they walk through the streets, fears for life ...

    and certainly only because you have a gun, do not remove the fear .. fear is an attitude towards life, nothing more ... if you're a coward and you have a gun, you will be an armed coward, nothing more ... and yes an armed coward is very dangerous, as American cops, they have everything to be a walking bomb.

    Regards
     
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    willburroughs Well-Known Member

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    What does this number have to do with police brutality? Or, are you so fired up stupid as to pretend that killing somebody in the line of duty is brutality?
     
  6. Rickity Plumber

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    Yes, quite a bit more actually. You act a fool you are going to get what is coming to you. Thugs acting all thug-like are certainly going to get killed by cops. However, college students, non-drug users and people with jobs seem to what??? Not get shot by cops!

    I certainly would not compare our brave brothers and sisters killed in action overseas to the thugs and perps that would not know respect if it slapped em in the face.
     
  7. martin76

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    Well, to be killed in action means nothing. You can be killed overseas being a heroe or you can be killed being a coward...

    Cops are often cowards, corrupt, useless and unfair ... all police force l I know I just like only the North West Mounted Police, the British bobbies and Guardia Civil. My theory is very simple: the further you are from the police, fewer problems you will have.
     
  8. Battle3

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    There are organizations that track unwarranted police killings and brutality, including the CATO Institute here http://www.policemisconduct.net/

    This one tracks police killing innocent people http://www.innocentdown.org/

    This one is also good http://www.policestateusa.com/

    There are also many, many sites on the internet and facebook dedicated to police brutality as a result of a specific case, search on "justice for". Here is one http://www.justiceforjordanmiles.com/about-the-campaign/national-police-brutality-statistics/

    Police Departments typically try to cover up unwarranted killings. Thats the killing of a completely innocent person such as Aiyana Jones, 7 year old, who was shot in the head when cops did a no-knock raid on her home, threw a grenade in the front window into the room in which Aiyana was sleeping, then stormed in and killed her - and the cops were at the wrong house.

    Unwarranted killings are also killing people who might be breaking the law but are not violent and can be easily handled by less violent means, such as this case in which Albuquerque cops murdered a man illegally camping but was co-operating
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tpAZObNZfI

    In almost every case (including the 2 above) the cops were exonerated.

    The exact number is difficult to determine. Some organizations rely on social media to find possible cases and then they research each case - its very time consumming. 400+ a year is the current accepted estimate, some groups put the number at 1,000+.
     
  9. Virtus

    Virtus New Member Past Donor

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    First thing's first, the definition of "police brutality" has recently been extrapolated to include any actions by police officers in which a criminal or citizen is harmed, regardless of what said criminal or citizen was doing. They also often include accidents that happened while police were there, even if they were not caused by the cops themselves. A criminal who has broken the law can file a complaint of police brutality if he deems the cop cuffed him too forcefully, or hurt his head when he was putting him in the squad car. Thus think tanks such as the Cato Institute provide data that is highly exaggerated and untrue, because the complaints aren't really cogent or justified. Secondly, police "militarization" cannot be blamed for all of these incidents. Cops on patrol (who have the most complaints filed against them) carry handguns and tasers, and might have a shotgun inside their designated vehicle. Rubber bullets aren't killing children, bullets are killing armed criminals, and cops are being called brutal and turbulent for defending themselves and respectable citizens. Finally, spreading all this false information and negative opinions about cops all the time is making matters far worse. Children and highly impressionable teenagers, who are already anti-authoritarian by nature, hear this information and then believe it is justified to disrespect the cops and authority in general. People run from cops, resist them, target them, and hate them out of a lack of respect. A stop would be so much simpler and safer if drives simply followed instructions without worrying about civil liberties they've been convinced they have, and resisting officers. A cop doesn't have to fight a citizen if the citizen never initiates one in the first place. If we regain our respect for the police, they will regain their respect for us, and cooperation and safety will return. But as long as we provide this pessimistic views on cops and generalize and blame them for every failure, brutality claims will stay high and so will public unrest.
     
  10. Battle3

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    Organizations that track police brutality are not tracking police "violence", they are tracking incidents in which police use excessive force. Cops are supposed to be trained to understand and apply the appropriate response to an incident.

    Tell these people that the cops are there protecting them:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/17/aiyana-stanley-jones-joseph-weekley-trial_n_5824684.html
    How A Police Officer Shot A Sleeping 7-Year-Old To Death

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...sh-bang-grenade-headed-home-article-1.1850982
    Georgia toddler injured by SWAT team’s flash bang grenade released from hospital

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/attorney-georgia-teen-killed-by-cop-was-holding-wii-controller/
    Teen Killed by Cop was Holding Wii Controller

    http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013...nhunt-for-ex-cop-chris-dorner-had-no-warning/
    2 Innocent Women Shot During Manhunt For Ex-Cop Chris Dorner Had ‘No Warning


    There are 1,000's of these cases.


    Cops get what they deserve. If they don't like the lack of respect then they should correct their own attitude. Cops put "officer safety" above everything, its their free pass to beat and murder anyone they encounter. Officer safety is BS, in 2012 less than 50 cops were killed by bad guys. Yes cops have armor and training to mitigate the risk, but the data shows its just not as deadly and occupation as cops claim.

    Maybe cops have always been as deadly and brutal but we didn't see it before everyone had a camera.

    What a total load of BS. You have got it completely backwards. Cops are there to protect and serve the public, cops should automatically respect the public. Cops are supposed to stand in harms way when necessary - that's what they VOLUNTARILY agreed to do.

    Sure, life would be so much easier for cops if all the mundanes gave up the "civil liberties they've been convinced they have", then cops could just stop and search and beat without the pretense of obeying the "law". Lets all just prostrate ourselves when ever a cop shows up, and just say "Yes massah" to whatever a cop says.
     

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