AZ Primary Ballot Box Stuffing Caught on Tape

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  1. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    http://www.arizonadailyindependent....a-primary-ballot-box-stuffing-caught-on-tape/

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    The Maricopa County GOP chairman provided the Arizona Daily Independent with the following account of what happened during the Aug. 26 primary election cycle:

    Guy: “What’s your problem?”

    LaFaro: “I don’t have a problem.”

    Guy: “Stop watching me. You’re annoying me.”

    LaFaro: “One of your ballots isn’t sealed.”

    Guy: “It’s none of your business. What’s your name?”

    LaFaro: “I’m the chairman of the Maricopa County Republican Party. What’s yours?”

    Guy: “Go f*** yourself. I don’t have to tell you who I am.”

    LaFaro said he later submitted a public information request and obtained this surveillance video from 12:30- 1:30 on Aug. 25 (audio unavailable):

    LaFaro said it all happened as he was working with the elections staff during early ballots processing. The team in charge of processing the ballots got “way ahead” so the information systems coordinator convened an extended lunch period from 11:30- 1:00 p.m.

    It was between 12:54 and 1:04 that LaFaro said he was seated at one of the cubicles, heard a loud thud and turned around to see the man who he claims was caught on tape stuffing “hundreds” of ballots. LaFaro described the man as a “vulgar, disrespectful, violent thug” with “no respect for our laws.” He said he would have followed the man to his car to get his tag number but “feared for [his] life.”

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    As we always knew, but now have the video to prove it. All ballot boxes should be kept in a secure and area recorded by cameras to stop this abuse by Liberals and the Democratic Party operatives.
     
  2. Lee S

    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    Is this the type of voter fraud that doesn't exist which requires us to allow liberal dead people to vote? Just wondering......
     
  3. Kranes56

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    So how do you know he was from the Democrat party?
     
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    I will virtually guarantee you that this is a fake.

    This clown LaFaro is one of Joe Arapio's "posse". A flaming right wing kook with a long string of this sort of thing behind him.
     
  5. Kranes56

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    Yeah something doesn't seem right. Watch the video, there were plenty of people there who saw what he was doing. Nor was he doing it that inteligently.
     
  6. Yosh Shmenge

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    Exactly! The democrats assure us there are no significant instances of voter fraud to worry about. Therefore making people actually identify themselves is pointless and suppresses voter rights (the right to commit fraud, that is).
     
  7. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good and fair question. His reaction to a GOP official and his shirt.

    “A person wearing a Citizens for a Better Arizona T-shirt dropped a large box of hundreds of early ballots on the table and started stuffing the ballot box as I watched in amazement" ....

    The group was founded with the goal of removing a Republican from office.

    He's on video. The Federal Government and State Government should have investigators put on his image and he should be identified. I am sure Eric Holder will be right on..... oh wai....

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    Once you have some proof of that, please share it with us all.
     
  8. Yosh Shmenge

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    Why would the Maricopa County GOP chairman report a republican stuffing ballot boxes....duh!
     
  9. Lee S

    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    Ummmmm....What exactly is a virtual guarantee? A guarantee that isn't worth anything in real life but is only valid on the internet? Just asking.....
     
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    The reaction to the GOP means nothing. And the group is made up of the GOP as well.

    "Citizens for a Better Arizona (CBA) is an outgrowth of the grassroots movement that led to the historic recall of former President of the Senate Russell Pearce. Today, CBA, is a predominantly volunteer driven organization of Republicans, Democrats and Independents committed to improving the quality of life of all Arizonans – better schools, better health care, better jobs, better government and a better, more civil tone of respect and decency when it comes to solving Arizona’s problems."
    http://citizensforabetteraz.org/about/
     
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    Even if this turns out to be true (I doubt it will) please tell me how voter ID would have stopped this?
     
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    You couldn't possibly think of a reason, like supporting the GOP's claim that the Democrats want to stuff the ballot?
     
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    "Virtually guarantee" - nice oxymoron.
     
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    Let's just humor Yosh's ridiculous position and say this guy was a GOP Operative (ridiculous I know, but let's just humor it.)

    Yosh, do you want any person, not identified, walking into a polling place and stuffing a ballot box with hundreds of ballots?
     
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    Everyone should need to send a copy of their valid ID to the registrar of voters BEFORE they can receive their absentee ballot.
     
  16. Yosh Shmenge

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    The only thing that could have stopped this physical act of ballot box stuffing did happen but the point is we've been assured there is no voter fraud to worry about and that apparently isn't so.
     
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    The act is on video tape making your rationalization extremely unlikely.
     
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    No, what has been noted over and over is that in-person voter impersonation (the only form of fraud that Voter ID can catch) is vanishingly rare.

    Ballot stuffing, by contrast, is a practice as old as elections.

    Not that we have actual evidence of that happening here. We have a really loopy, thinly reported and poorly written article, sourced to a known partisan nutjob. I strongly suspect that if/when this is looked into, it will turn out to be nothing at all.

    That, of course, isn't keeping the conservative blogosphere from going nuts over this. Actual credible evidence isn't that important to them.
     
  19. Yosh Shmenge

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    Ummm....I never made the "ridiculous position" that this guy caught stuffing ballots was a GOP operative. Quite the opposite.

    Have you been reading long?
     
  20. HB Surfer

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    How about we just answer the question....

    Do you want any person, not identified, walking into a polling place and stuffing a ballot box with hundreds of ballots?

    This question applies to EVERYONE... not just Yosh.
     
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    How? We don't know what ballots he may have messed with.
     
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    Guy: "Guy: “Go f*** yourself. I don’t have to tell you who I am.”

    Ah, the essence of the fight against Voter ID laws.

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    A virtual guarantee from a leftists is to a guarantee as virtual reality is to reality.
     
  23. Yosh Shmenge

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    Then something as innocuous as a personal form of ID should be no problem
    for 95% of voters to come up with. If we can virtually assure that no one is showing up at polling places pretending to be someone he isn't why wouldn't we do that? To paraphrase Mark Twain, reports of onerous requirements to obtain a simple personal ID have been greatly exaggerated.

    I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that the simplest explanation is invariably the correct one: what we see in the video is what we've been told it is.

    You yourself have just admitted ballot stuffing is a prevalent practice.

    It seems outrageous and, barring evidence to the contrary, there's no reason why people shouldn't be outraged by such chicanery.
     
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    No, in fact if you go look at my past posts on the subject I have always said that something along these lines is much more likely than in person voter fraud.


    My post here:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/elect...ng-next-phase-their-war-fair-elections-3.html
     
  25. Yosh Shmenge

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    You seem to miss the point: What is this one individual doing with hundreds of ballots in the first place?
     

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