Climate change PROVED to be 'nothing but a lie', claims top meteorologist

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Climate change PROVED to be 'nothing but a lie', claims top meteorologist

    THE debate about climate change is finished - because it has been categorically proved NOT to exist, one of the world's leading meteorologists has claimed.

    John Coleman, who co-founded the Weather Channel, shocked academics by insisting the theory of man-made climate change was no longer scientifically credible.

    Instead, what 'little evidence' there is for rising global temperatures points to a 'natural phenomenon' within a developing eco-system.

    In an open letter attacking the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, he wrote: "The ocean is not rising significantly.

    "The polar ice is increasing, not melting away. Polar Bears are increasing in number.

    "Heat waves have actually diminished, not increased. There is not an uptick in the number or strength of storms (in fact storms are diminishing).

    "I have studied this topic seriously for years. It has become a political and environment agenda item, but the science is not valid."

    Mr Coleman said he based many of his views on the findings of the NIPCC, a non-governmental international body of scientists aimed at offering an 'independent second opinion of the evidence reviewed by the IPCC.'

    He added: "There is no significant man-made global warming at this time, there has been none in the past and there is no reason to fear any in the future.

    "Efforts to prove the theory that carbon dioxide is a significant greenhouse gas and pollutant causing significant warming or weather effects have failed.

    "There has been no warming over 18 years."

    The IPCC argue their research shows that man-made global warming will lead to extreme weather events becoming more frequent and unpredictable.

    US News and World Report noted that many of the world’s largest businesses, including Coke, Pepsi, Walmart, Nestle, Mars, Monsanto, Kellogg, General Mills, Microsoft, and IBM, "are now engaged and actively responding to climate science and data."

    Mr Coleman's comments come as President Barack Obama came under fire from climatologists as federal data revealed The United State's energy-related carbon pollution rose 2.5 per cent despite the President's pledges to decrease it.

    President Obama told 120 world leaders at the United Nations climate summit last month that America had done more under his watch in cutting greenhouse gases than any other country.

    Despite this, the Energy Information Administration's Monthly Energy Review showed an increase in the use of energy from coal.
    World leaders have pledged to keep the global average temperature from rising two degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels to prevent the worst consequences of climate change.

    The US, along with the UK and other developed countries, is expected to pledge further actions on climate change early next year.

    Climate expert William Happer, from Princeton University, supported Mr Coleman's claims.

    He added: "No chemical compound in the atmosphere has a worse reputation than CO2, thanks to the single-minded demonisation of this natural and essential atmospheric gas by advocates of government control and energy production.

    "The incredible list of supposed horrors that increasing carbon dioxide will bring the world is pure belief disguised as science."

    In 2010 a high-level inquiry by the InterAcademy Council found there was "little evidence" to support the IPCC's claims about global warming.

    It also said the panel had purposely emphasised the negative impacts of climate change and made "substantive findings" based on little proof.
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/natur...rming-not-real-claims-weather-channel-founder

    Yeah we know there is a difference between claim and weather but meteorologist know a lot about climate just as climatologist know a lot about weather. Especially when it comes to measuring and monitoring weather. So let's just dispense with the "oh he's just a meteorologist what does he know about climate" canard.

    It is becoming more and more clear that the whole global warming/climate change/climate disruption industry has been a racket for many scientist to enrich themselves off government grants and to use their positions to attack free markets and capitalism and a growing vibrant economy.

    And Obama still thinks this is the greatest threat we face.....geezz
     
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    John Coleman has no climate science experience, and is just regurgitating debunked denier fabrications. Nobody pays attention to him. Well, except for deniers. Since all the actual data contradicts them, they have to ignore the data and point to such propaganda pieces instead.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    It doesn't matter. Climate change happens. Why not discover tangible solutions instead of merely playing shell games with Statism.
     
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    are you confusing AGW with natural climate change? One is natural and has been around since time began the other a political lie initiated by the Malthusian movement and perpetuated by the UN for monetary redistribution and an attempt to form a world government by destroying western civilization as we know it by imposing a artificial cost on energy. The 2 have about as much in common as jihadisism and the everyday Muslim. AGW proponents being the nutjobs with a bombs strapped to their butts. Of course jihadists have a lot in common with the AGW movement, both seek to destroy western civilization and inflict needless suffering on the poor. One with violence inflicted on the innocent, the other by increasing the cost of energy which is what enables me to sit here in a warm house with sufficient food and clean water
     
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    Coleman isn't even a meteorologist let alone a "top" meteorologist, he has no science degree...he has degree in journalism, he's a tv weather guy...

    Just another futile denier world attempt to find a respectable source to back their unscientific claims...failed again...

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    Finding a tangible solution requires recognizing the cause...
     
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    Dude, climate change is a natural phenomena. It happens. Why do you believe it doesn't?
     
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    Even the people who do not agree with Climatologists KNOW Global Warming is a reality and none of them to my knowledge until just NOW have stated the idiocy that Climate Change does not occur.

    OF COURSE IT DOES!!!

    The arguement is over whether MAN is responsible for this latest heating trend.

    All the data is showing that Man is in fact to blame.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Democrats and liberals are the real science deniers:
    Founder of the Weather Channel explains the global warming hoax


    Read more at http://www.youngcons.com/founder-of...-the-global-warming-hoax/#LEMWhv4JmhTwCUPL.99
     
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    By the way a Meteorologist is to a CLIMATOLOGIST...like a Dentist is to a BRAIN SURGEON!!

    LOL!!!

    AboveAlpha

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    Let's get the opinion of Al Roker!! LOL!!!

    No...no we don't need no stinking CLIMATOLOGISTS!!

    LOL!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Dude, there is nothing natural about THIS climate change...all denierworld claims about natural change ring hollow, for decades it was claimed al gore and margret thatcher invented it, then it was denial CO2 was a ghg, then it attributed to the sun, then volcanos, the milankovitch cycle, cow farts, every conceivable excuse...now the science challenged world of deniers thinks they've discovered a previously unkown fact of natural climate change...but when asked to point out the cause of this natural change known only to them/you have nothing but silence...only "it's natural, it's happened before", apparently it happens by magic since there is no known cause for this warming...other than AGW/CO2...
     
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    The main problem now is the CH4 as the increase in CO2 has warmed Oceans and Arctic Lakes and Permafrost to the point Gel Form Methane is bubbling up and out into our Atmosphere.

    CH4 traps heat in our atmosphere up to 72 times greater than CO2.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    true enough...I recall an explanation for the PT extinction event being attributed the the release of CH4 due to raised levels of CO2...I'd hope that isn't true but I can't dispute expertise that I dont have...it's unavoidable that it won't happen, change is coming even if we could bring all anthropogenic co2 to zero today...
     
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    We have already passed a tipping point.

    We are screwed.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I agree but I don't want to believe it...if I close my eyes and cover my ears it may all go away...

    I recall a climatologist a few years back (I don't recall his name) who withdrew from the CC controversy...the he reason he stated was as you said, (not his exact words) " we've passed the tipping point, it no longer matters"
     
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    Ice Age here we come!

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    The weather "expert" has been bleating his "news" for years. Watts new?
     
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    Death is natural. Therefore murder is impossible?

    Do you realize how idiotic your argument sounds?
     
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    Dude, climate change is a natural phenomena. The proof is we are no longer in an Ice Age. Why waste our tax monies merely playing shell games with Statism instead of acquiring more Perfect Knowledge of structures, such that we can place habitation nearly anywhere on our planet regardless of climate change.
     
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    Just as I predicted no explanation for the warming, it's magic apparently. ..
     
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    Did you miss the proof?

    Here is something to consider:

     
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    1983 - Broadcast Meteorologist of the Year, American Meteorological Society [1][15]
     
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    curious, can you name somewhere where climate changed? Not seasonal changes, but climate changes.

    I didn't think so!
     
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    Strange how it is always an all or nothing thing with many on both sides of the issue. Either it is all manmade or it is all natural or as some claim nothing is happening at all. The funny thing is the truth is usually something in the middle, meaning that it may be both a Natural event but is being speeded along by our own actions, that it is not happening is to ignore reality so is not debatable in my opinion. Thing is we know for a fact that we can effect the planet and it's eco systems there is ample proof of that fact so it is not a real long reach to realize that we can effect the climate due to our actions so why not at least try and curtail what we can? It is better to error on the side of caution than it is to ignore the evidence and hope some later generations will deal with it, it may be too late at that point to do anything and I for one do not want the generations that follow us to point at our generations and say we were the ones that failed to do what could have been done to change the situation they ended up with, that is IF there are any later generations.

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    Then you need to read more so that your thinking is better informed.
     
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    So your short answer is no!
     

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