Cameron - the worst Conservative leader of all time?

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  1. munter

    munter New Member

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    This guy's a joke right.

    Conservative? LOL

    a few of his crimes:
    1. Allowing the proles to vote on breaking up the UK
    2. Legalising same sex marriage
    3. Abolishing state funding for higher education
    4. Selling off nuclear power station to the communist Chinese
    5. Allowing the Russians to take over the city of London
    6. Allowing mass immigration
    7. Doing nothing to defeat the Liberals
    8. Doing nothing to provide jobs for the masses


    any views?
     
  2. lunecat

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    Yes, the worst conservative leader of all time, but none for the reasons you have listed.
     
  3. munter

    munter New Member

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    ok, what are the reasons then?
     
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    Well he is not a conviction politician. A Fake, a Liberal, a lover of the EU, lacks any political substance, a phoney & dishonest politician.
     
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    basically what I was saying in the OP

    yep, who will be the next PM?:wink:
     
  6. lunecat

    lunecat Active Member

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    Does it matter? All choices on offer are pro EU & will perpetuate our serfdom to the European facist bureaucracy in Brussels/Strasbourg.

    Why do they need duplicate Parliments other than to waste more money & stroke French ego.
     
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    other choices are available that are anti-EU

    for instance, UKIP or CPB
     
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    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    I guess conservatives are basically the same wherever you go. If you don't watch out, they'll be outsourcing the Thames and selling Windsor Castle for parts.
     
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    they've already outsourced parts of the military so it won't be too long now.....
     
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    Politicians seem to have reasons to become impopular towards the end of their political term. With Obama and Bush the same, towards the end of their political term worsening.

    Not only to let another politician become popular (because people are fed up after years, and want change more than ever), but also to cause anger in the voter (clearly to increase political fight in the voter, to help the next popular political figure to gain, that is btw revolutionary), and an awakening when you start to realize that he is not the only politician that started as a popular political figure and ended as the worst.

    An awakening in a majority will lead to a revolution, that's why politics must have been invented.
    Never to serve the voter or population, but to instil and cause things, that are; change, anger (so fight), resistance, and in the end (when there is a contradictory attitude in a majority of the population, by decades of deception) and the most problematic thing, an awakening.
    Because when you start to see through a political proces or politics itself, you start to come to the realization.
     
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    Well, Italian Prime Minister Renzi is not exactly a Socialist [he comes from the Catholic young organizations and we tend to consider him a center popular], but in any case today he's the leader of the Italian democrats.

    This curious "friendship" is not above suspicion for a British conservative [that is to say for a politician who declares to be a conservative in Britain].

    Anyway, may be it's the shared stance about the central European power to have created the context for this "connection" [or it's the charm of our Prime Minister?].
     
  12. Shagpile

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    He leads a deeply divided party. Would your leadership be any more unifying?

    IMO, definitely Thatcherite. That gives him New Labourite ethos too.

    Constitutionally bound to do so. Yet why are you so anti Scottish?

    Inevitable. Human rights.

    Labour did that.

    Do you have a link to that?

    Do you have a link to that?

    Do you have a link to that?

    Clegg (Ex-Tory) and Cameron have decimated the Lib Dems. I would call that destruction personally.

    Now there I will agree.

    I believe you are the least informed critic I've ever read on this forum.

    Rumour has it that Cameron "lost" 3 of the 9 nukes SA unilaterally disarmed themselves of. It is conceivably one of the reasons that the second, and illegal war against Iraq was waged. Why the "dodgy dossier" was palpably "dodgy". Not to mention the "overnight rags to riches" of Tory and Labour overdrafts.

    It is believed by some that the missing nukes were stolen (back) by Israel, the country they were manufactured in.
     
  13. Pro-Consul

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    Better than Blair
    I don't have a problem with the referendum
    Nor that
    No. Funding for HE still continues to exist. It hasn't been abolished
    First I've heard of that
    They haven't taken over.
    That started with labour and its not Cameron's fault. If anything he's actually tried to acknowledge that it is a problem
    People lost respect for the lib-dems when it was clear that Clegg was a junior partner.
    Quite the opposite actually.
    I quite like the Conservative government because they're doing the best that is possible since the credit crunch which is something that was greatly exacerbated by Labour.
     
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    No, that'd be Thatcher.
     
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    Thatcher was great. Smashed the argies and the Unions. Smashed whining little creeps who want something for nothing.
     
  16. lunecat

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    I read an article on SKY news that Cameron placed his cream above his jam on his scone whilst visiting Devon on his election campaign. (a Cornish habit I read)

    What utter bunkum to which our modern political reporting has degraded.

    Jut goes to show what little real substance there is between nu-Labour & the Cons.
     
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    I have always thought of the Tory party as a one trick pony good on the economy bad at everything else. But in the 90s they were worst than labour. Hands up if you remember Black Wednesday which was due to Norman Lamonts disasterous decision to join the European exchange mechanism.
     
  18. lunecat

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    Hands up if you know about George Soros.

    I agree it was a foolish idea to join the ERM, just like it was for Winston Churchill as the chancellor the exchequer in 1924 to go back to the gold standard.

    But I doubt that labour would have done any better. The 1990's was the decade that political parties finally realised that they no longer ran their own Country & that economic forces were more powerful than themselves... A notion that first came to recognition in the 70's - but took the politicians 20years to finally surrender.

    The final white flag of surrender was raised by nu-Labour in 1997 when Blair & Brown gave away their power of control of setting the national interest rate to the Bank of England. A much greater folly than joining the ERM.
     
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    The Tories are a disgrace. Only UKIP can save Britain.

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    Thatcher was one Tory I would have voted for. But Cameron is a socialist.
     
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    Consevatives in the UK could be split into two groups. 1. The majority of them are extremely wealthy who buy their way into politics and have no conception of how the other half lives. 2. Their poorer supporters, who imagine themselves to be of an upper working class or middle class and support the Conservatives to make themselves seem 'posh'
     
  21. lunecat

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    No No. 2 are the aspirational group that want to improve their lot. Everyone knows that socialist governments hold back the working class & doom them to crappy jobs, living in sink estates & worst of all public-sector employment & dependent on state hand-outs to survive.

    Your views as expressed, are very 1970's.

    The best we can do is to get rid of globalisation, leave the EU & the multi-national exploitation of the workers & introduce import tariffs to protect a new Industrial sector, free from restrictive unionised practises.
     

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