What'll the GOP do about their TP Problem Now?

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Largely ignore them, letting them fuss and fizzle, most likely.

    Mitchie McConnell, sustained by a hefty campaign bankroll supplied by the Party's corporate elites, certainly won't pander to the wacko birds.

    He blithely swatted away their lapdog Bevin that they had deployed to nip at his pampered tushie in his primary, and he blames those pissy TPs who managed to nominate the zanies that cost him his majority leadership last time.

    After that revolting development, he vowed, “I think we are going to crush them everywhere! I don’t think they are going to have a single nominee anywhere in the country!”

    They'll persist in mewling and drive Boehner to tears, no doubt, but Terrapinhead will enjoy letting the chronic snivelers snivel. He's not going to allow the remnant of that freak show to get him down. They can damned well all exile themselves to Brownbackistan as far as he's concerned.

    Turdblossom and the Turdle have won their War Against the TPs.

     
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    After this debacle, I think the bigger question is what the Democrats are going to do about the Liberal problem. Liberals sank their ship with their looney ideas and are going go be the ruination of the Democratic Party if they are not reigned in.
     
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    "Liberals!" are those pesky chimera that infest the noggins of folks that overdose on the boilerplate of some media entertainers. They are a negligible rarity in actual elective politics.


    In 2016, when Democrats enjoy their inherent advantages of a national election with greater participation, more GOP Senate seats are at risk, and the ineluctable progress of demographic continues, it will be much more difficult for a 90% White, aging party to succeed in a younger, better-educated, increasingly diverse America.

    You certainly won't have a big time TP like Jim DeMint proclaiming about Brownback's disastrous Red State Model what he said of RomneyCare, that it was "something we should do for the while country"!


    Savvy Republicans know that, and an inevitable existential necessity for them will be to let the TPs fizzle and appeal to a far broader range of Americans.

     
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    The tea party is only a problem when something is done that makes them angry. TheInteresting thing about a Republican House and a democratic president is that the tea party will likely redirect all of this anger onto the president. This even makes it possible for the Republican House to cater to the tea party in pushing policies they may not want to actually enact.
     
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    Don't know, but those Republican primaries are going to be something to behold. When they get done gnawing off each other's hind legs, they are likely to come up with someone like the Jebster, the demographic death spiral incarnate.
     
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    Ahem! Hahahahahaha! They can call themselves progressives or leftwingers or liberals . . . but 'tis all the same when ideology is getting friction burns from enthusiastically rubbing up against politics.
     
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    Right? Dang these guys can spin a turd into desert topping. YOU LOST! Not the Tea Party. Then the guy has the nerve to explain that there is no such thing as a liberal and they are all moderates.

    YOUR PARTY JUST TOOK A COMPLETE AND UTTER NOSE DIVE.
    THEY WERE HIT WITH THE BIGGEST TSUNAMI WAVE SINCE THE 1920'S.
    GET A GRIP! ​
     
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    What does, "something we should do for the while country"!, mean? Oh, whole country. Who the heck thinks that it is an "inevitable eistential necessity" to let the Tea Party fizzle? Oh, "savvy republicans know". It's been the Tea Party who has resuscitated the dying GOP in 2010 and once again in 2014. We grow stronger and stronger within the GOP, which is not only a threat to the democrats, but to the RINO leadership, who are living on borrowed time.

    As for liberals being a negligible rarity, there are few moderates left in the Dem party. All that is left is the left of the left of the left. The democrats have become such an extremist party that it is losing it core constituents, blacks, women, blue collar workers and union workers.
     
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    Toilet Paper problem . . .?
     
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    Given the ass whopping you fellers took a few days ago, you might want to think about the weeds in your own yard before pointing a gnarly finger at your neighbors.
     
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    Pure class, Natty, but perhaps you'd serve your party better if you considered what the Democrats will do with their socialist and their communists. I'm sure you have worthy advice for Bunk Buddy Barry and Cornhole Harry.
     
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    I had to puzzle over that one.

    I had used Dubya's frolicsome moniker for Rove in referencing the corporate elites' toadies beating down the TPs in the long-standing battle described by Breibart, so I'm guessing that it's my substituting a "d" for a "t" in McConnell's traditional nickname that has you upset.

    That slight orthographic deviation was to achieve an alliterative resonance in the coupling of the principles in the GOP's vanquishing of the TPs, but if you find that "d" disturbing, we'll readily go with the customary "Turtle."

    In any event, plucky banter aside, I expect that the TPs in Congress will be in a tizzy over the establishment types now largely abandoning the obstructionism that had earned them such dismal public regard.

    Let's hope they do nothing to return the improving economy back to where eight years of Bush/Cheney had brought it, so that they'll be able to claim credit.

    The nation is not about to be transformed into Brownbackistan, however much chagrin that occasions amidst the ideologically hidebound.
     
  13. PatriotNews

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    The last 4 years of obstructionist Harry reid as Majority Leader against a GOP controlled house has been portrayed by both the democrats and the media as GOP obstructionism. Nobody is buying that line of crap anymore. They are not buying any of the crap anymore. Obama is the last obstructionist standing.
     
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    Right. let's just act like republicans don't always do better in mid terms. Let's just act like democratic voter turnout won't be any different in 2016. Let's just act like the Republican party doesn't have a lower approval rating than Democrats. Let's just ignore the fact a democrat is easily leading all 2016 Presidential election polls. the democrats are in real trouble! Wait, didn't we hear this stuff in 2010 when the republicans had a great mid term election?
     
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    I suspect you may actually believe that hooey despite the reality.

    When McConnell had openly admitted the hyper-partisan GOP's primary focus in the middle of the President's first term, "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president," he articulated his Party's policy of obstructionism that has ensued ever since, earning for Congressional Republicans their current loathsome regard: 21% approval.69% disapproval.

    McConnell has slapped the TPs silly. As he had boasted, “I think we are going to crush them everywhere!” Mr. McConnell, the Senate Republican leader, said in an interview, referring to the network of activist organizations working against him and two Republican incumbents in Kansas and Mississippi while engaging in a handful of other contests. “I don’t think they are going to have a single nominee anywhere in the country!”

    Angry White Guys' numbers are shrinking, and the Turtle now joins Obama in hoping to accomplish something. It's certainly not in the GOP's interest to persist in their obstructionist approach to governance with the advantages the Party enjoyed in '14 reverting to the Democrats in '16 in a national election that will not have the record-low turnout that served them well in this off-year election.

    As a specific example of what one should expect, Carnival Cruz and his faction may kvetch and try to shut down public services again, but there is no way the Affordable Care Act will be repealed. Instead, it will be tweaked just as the American People, Democrats and Republicans alike, indicate is their preference.

    The obvious, pragmatic strategy is to reflect the electorates' wishes, not to pander to the wacko birds.
     
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    Wendy Davis lost her seat to a tea party candidate. Couldn't happen to a more deserving Democrat.
     
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    Precisely the reason 200 bills (or 400 or 6000 depending on which Republican source you read) ended up being stalled on Reid's desk. NOBODY wanted those bills. My guess is that McConnell isn't going to like being the Tea Party's fool, either. But I could be wrong. I surely hope he plays the fool.
     
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    how do democrats win? they lie and they steal elections, that's how. they buy votes by the poor. It's really very simple, and way too easy to get away with.
     
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    Me and the rest of the American voting public believe that hooey as the results of the election have indicated.

    Yeah, well Harry reid said the same thing about Bush and people weren't crying about it then. The founders designed the Constitution in such a manner as to prevent tyranny. Trying to prevent Obama from taking liberty with the powers of the Constitution is not obstructionist, it's enforcing the Constitution. What is so loathsome about keeping to the intent of the Founders idea of limited government?

    Well the Tea Party candidates did very well this election, and many of them are now in the Senate. McConnell is not liked by conservatives and it would do him good to stop attacking the base if he wants to remain the Majority Leader.

    The only one who is angry is Obama, last I checked, he's not a white guy. Happy white guys were joined by happy white women, minority men and women and people of all ages to deliver a devastating blow to the democrats. I bet there are a lot of angry white guys in the democrat party so peeved at the democrats that they stayed home and didn't vote for them this election.

    Well that 17 day government shut down that was supposed to hurt the republican party this election was either not a factor as gauged by the success that the GOP had this election day, or people actually support the republicans shutting down the government and stopping Obama and his far left socialist agenda. I guess it depends on how you look at it.

    The electorate made it's wishes clear. Stop the democrats at every possible turn. If the electorate wanted more of the same democrat big government solutions, then we would have seen more of them returned to office. But you go ahead and lie to yourself and tell yourself that this is a mandate to cooperate with democrats and their far left agenda.
     
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    Fantasies about the Congressional Repubs suddenly abandoning their internal animosities as Turtle leads the warm and fuzzy throng in a harmonious chorus of "Kumbaya" on the Captol steps may provide comforting pipe dreams for the deluded, but the caterwauling will be anything but mellifluous as soon as the Gaucho starts trying to herd the cats.

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    This is an excellent analysis of what to expect as Turdblossom's War Against the TPs is waged in the 114th Congress:

     
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    If you are telling the truth, please provide a link to your source. Otherwise, don't bother.
     
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    "This is the issue that will defeat Bush in Nevada," Reid said. http://articles.latimes.com/2004/oct/31/news/adna-dump31

    Besides, Reid doesn't expect Bush to be living in the White House come January. "When (John) Kerry is president Yucca Mountain won't happen," said the senator, who scoffed at recent statements that Kerry has voted for Yucca Mountain in the past after the candidate said he would stop Yucca Mountain during a recent campaign stop in Las Vegas. http://archive.pahrumpvalleytimes.com/2004/08/25/news/reid.html

    Well, not exactly the same wording, but of course Harry Reid wanted to make Bush a one term president, or do you think he voted for Bush?
     
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    I had quoted McConnell's declaration of his primary agenda after the American electorate first chose Obama as President: "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president." You had claimed that, "Yeah, well Harry reid said the same thing about Bush."

    You posted an article about Yucca Mountain in which Reid was quoted as saying, "This is the issue that will defeat Bush in Nevada."

    Obviously, that is quite different from proclaiming that "the single most important thing" for Democrats in Congress was to make Bush a one-term president, nor, clearly, would Yucca Mountain be an issue of such national consequence to produce such a result.

    Reid never suggested that "the single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Bush to be a one-term president." Certainly, Americans do not deem ruining the prospects of any first-term president they have elected as the "single most important thing" for the Congress they have elected to prioritize. Such a hyper-partisan obsession in making the other branch of government fail would not serve the nation - the "single most important" responsibility that any elected representative should have.
     
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    Well it's hard to research every word ever uttered by Reid, but you know as well as I the democrats opposed Bush at every opportunity in an effort to make him a one term president. Unless you think they were cooperative and were for his re-election?

    Anyway, I gave one example of Reid saying he wanted Kerry to be president which demonstrates that he wanted Bush to be a one term president.
     
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    face it both parties have their fringe elements and most of the USA is moderate. The far left got into power and left the Democratic party in a shambles. The GOP nominated moderate reasonable people and regained the Senate. Message to me is Dems need to keep the far left nutcases like Pelosi, Sheila Jackson Lee and Fauxchahontas away from the microphones and the right needs to find muzzles for Perry and Cruz. Just sayin that yeah I won't deny that the TP is a thorn in the electability of the GOP the left have the mirror image problem with their fringe element. Bad news for the Democrats is that the patients are running the asylum in their party while the TP is finding that it has became less and less of a voice since it's heyday in 2010
     

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