anyone ever heard chinese vietnam war in 1979

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  1. hkisdog

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    Chinese casualties in 27 days

    To this day, both sides of the conflict describe themselves as the victor. The number of casualties is disputed, with some Western sources putting PLA losses at more than 60,000 casualties, including about 26,000 killed.[1]

    However, the Chinese did suffer an extremely high casualty rate of 25%. This was confirmed during a visit to the US in the 1980s by the chief of the general staff of the PLA, Yang Dezhi (杨得志), who commanded the Chinese troops in Vietnam. During this visit, Yang announced that the Chinese suffered a total of 20,000 casualties in the conflict.


    Li Xiannian, then chairman of China, stated during a news conference that the Vietnamese claim of having destroyed half of the Chinese tank contingent in Vietnam was true.


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    Sino-Vietnamese War - Maoist Wiki
    maoist.wikia.com/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War



    Good news, but The paper did not list the references.
     
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    I remember it when I was in grade school. A very short and violent conflict given he relatively restricted terrain.

    In the Sir John Hackett book "The Third World War: The Untold Story" with World War 3 raging, China repeated this attack and a coup in Vietnam toppled the govt. in Hanoi.
     
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    when was this coup in vietnam? the government hasn't changed since north and south were unified...
     
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    It was in the book "The Third World War: The Untold Story". Didn't say it happened in real life.
     
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    Ah ok...,never heard of the book, I was confused...
     
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    A British Army General (he is dead now), Sir John Hackett wrote

    "The Third World War: August 1985" in 1978 IIRC and a sequel in 1982 called "The Third World War: The Untold Story" that corrected for more recent geopolitical developments and expanded the scope of the original.

    The scenario by Hackett was later used as the basis for the World War Three novel "Team Yankee" and its graphic novel and for the other version "Red Army" where the Soviets win.

    Note, in Hackett's novels the war lasts 19 days in August of 1985. Though Team Yankee reduces that to 14 days IIRC.
     
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    sir, it is real. The chinese vietnam war in 1979.
    Sino-Vietnamese War - Wikipedia, the free ency lopedia


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War

    china lost its pants and face in the war, google more info.
    china did much worse than wiki reported.
     
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    I KNOW THAT!!!!!!

    Point was in the novel the Chinese launched a SECOND invasion of Vietnam during the Third World War and sponsored a coup there.

    Good lord almighty just how difficult is this stuff to understand.
     
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    It happened in 1979, chinese was, is and will always be a joke.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War
     
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    Wait until you get into Ghost in the Shell. Nuclear WWIII and non-Nuclear WWIV. I wonder what's going to happen when some archeologist digs into some Nerd's basement a few millennia from now.
     
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    It was actually one of the best and most realistic "WWIII" novels that came out in the late 1970's. Written by a formal commander of NATO forces, it dealt with a NATO-Warsaw Pact war as if it was a historical book written years later by people who participated in it.

    However, much of the plot was made quickly obsolete. Iran and the Second Carter Administration played heavily into it, which of course was blown away by 1979.

    I have read both, but the first of the 2 book series "The Third World War: August 1985" was by far the best of the two.
     
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    China was not a joke then, and is not one now. The only reason they did not punish Vietnam more was that they had accomplished their mission.

    They went in with from 200-600,000 troops, and 400-500 tanks. That was a small fraction of their military power. If they had really wanted to, they could have pretty much obliterated Vietnam as it existed in 1979.

    Absolutely no military force that numbers over 3 million personnel in uniform is a "joke".
     

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