Couple fined for refusing to host same-sex wedding on their farm

I usually don't bother with local stories on the internet but this one deserves special attention.

Just how many times and in how many ways were this couple's constitutional rights violated during this queer gangster sting upon the two unsuspecting victims? The pair of sting operatives could have just as easily got another source to marry them which they eventually did instead of violating the law and recording a phone conversation without informing them they were being recorded.

A spokes person for the New York Civil Liberties Union declared their private property a public accommodation. Freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom of religious expression, all were violated by this intolerant gang.


http://nypost.com/2014/11/10/couple-fined-for-refusing-to-host-same-sex-wedding-on-their-farm/

 

actually, this isn't just a local story. It is repeated in many places. You failed to mention that the folks were also mandated to attend re-education camps where they will be taught that the homosexual lifestyle is swell. This is where a liberal govt has taken us

 

If they had followed the law, they wouldn't have had a problem.

 

If you invite somebody onto your property, does that mean by New York law that your property then becomes public property? Apparently, according to the New York Civil Liberties Union it does. ( The Giffords opened up their farm)


"The Giffords, who own the bucolic Liberty Ridge Farm in upstate New York, were ordered to pay a total of $13,000 — a $10,000 fine to the state and another $1,500 to each member of a lesbian couple to compensate them for “mental anguish.’’

How do you define this? Everybody has to endure this if there's going to be individual freedom in some form.

 

If I invite people onto my property for profit, by property becomes a business and is subject to all applicable regulations.

 

But……. perhaps this is all part of a larger plan cooked up by beings composed of a more fundamental form of energy who have gotten into the business of producing reality films with deep psychological, emotional, educational and spiritual value???!


http://www.politicalforum.com/gay-lesbian-rights/380595-g-ds-agenda-gay-community.html

G-d's Agenda for the Gay Community?!
Assuming the accuracy of the following two paragraphs...… what specifically would G-d/ HaShem/ YHWH/ The G-d of Abraham be planning to do through the Gay Community?


http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#a11

Obviously..... one of the things that our Creator wishes to do through the Gay Community..... is to create a whole new world in which there....."would never be one single wisecrack or hurtful remark made ever again"... is expanded and expanded and expanded to all groups and communities on earth?!

I think?!

 

A restaurant invites the public into their establishment to make a profit. That doesn't mean the restaurant becomes a public domain, it means it's a private establishment that has invited the public in.

 

OK, what's wrong with the post title - "gay mafia"? Why the censorship? If this is a PC site, I'm not going to waste my printing energy here - moderator(s)

 

What law was violated with the recording of the conversation? New York wiretapping law is one-party consent.

 

Well Rabbit, that same question was asked and answered back in 1960 at the Woolworth lunch counter. I understand there are people who disagree with that decision, but nothing says you have to like our laws. You just have to abide by them. I personally like the idea that the constitution guaranteed us equal treatment under the law. What exactly about the constitution do you hate?

 

And that resturant is subject to all applicable regulations. Exactly as I said.

 

Why?

No, the law declared the business renting out space for wedding ceremonies a public accommodation.

No freedoms were violated here. The business owners have clearly demonstrated their freedom to speak, including expressing their religious beliefs.

If they choose to provide a business service to the general public though, they're required to obey all of the relevant laws, statutes and regulations exactly like any other business owner. If any business owner finds those laws in conflict with their strongly held personal beliefs (regardless of the basis), they have to find a way to work around that.

 

The first amendment says: "or prohibit the exercise there of" The private owners of this farm were having their religious convictions violated if they permitted the two operatives to marry on their PRIVATE PROPERTY and not their public domain regardless of what the NYCLU said.

 

The owner of any private establishment should not have to face ANY governmental regulations that instruct him /her how to run their own business in the first place or who they should or should not do business with. That is the entire essence of liberty and property being privately owned.

 

Some people just love the world of socialist bliss.

The rest of us are probably going to revolt one day.

 

Then people should have complained when the law was enacted.

The time to complain about laws is not when they are being enforced. It's too late then.

 

OK , who was the moderator who censored me? Can I expect this PC fluff in future posts? Tell me now. This isn't college and I'm not tolerating sensitive PC censorship. I could look over this forum and I could probably find plenty of profanity in the meantime.

 

more false equivalency attempts

when I wake up in the morning, no matter how hard I try, I cannot be a white male.

When I wake up in the morning, I can certainly cease engaging in sex.

One is how you are born, the other is a sexual lifestyle choice.

it is highly insulting to continue to read the BS false equivalency

 

They can hold (or not hold) any kind of ceremony they want on their private property. When they choose to open a business to the general public though, they have to follow the same rules and regulations as any other business does.

 

Well sec, I really don't care about your lack of ability to engage in sex, but that isn't really my problem is it? I find the irony of you feeling insulted while you insist on inserting your will on other's sex life to be hilarious. Like I said before......You don't have to like the laws, you just have to abide by them.

 

http://nypost.com/2014/11/10/couple-fined-for-refusing-to-host-same-sex-wedding-on-their-farm/

If the couple were devout Muslims, nothing would be happened, moreover ACLU and CAIR could sue those who dared to insult feelings of Muslims.
If you are a church going bible-reading born-again Christian today than you are an outlaw, everybody may insult you, spit on you and laughing out.

 

Don't project your own prejudices on other people. Unless you've anything to back up your belief Muslims would be treated differently, you've absolutely nothing to support your accusation.

I thought lying was a sin.

 

Don't like it? Fine, go find a forum where profanity is tolerated. Here it will earn you a ban.

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Your opinion is noted.

 

Every private business provides a public accommodation. So according to you and the New York state supreme court, every private business is actually publicly owned.

 

You wont have to ban me, I'll ban myself. So you're the one who censored my post title eh? Based on your political correctness. Can you show me a rule here against profanity? Which number is it please? Let me test this and see if there's a profanity filter.

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