Obama 2006: Illegal immigration hurts hard working Americans

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  1. Libertarianforlife

    Libertarianforlife Well-Known Member

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    Obama 2014: Blanket Amnesty by executive action

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    H was against same-sex marriage before I was for it.
     
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    Obama doesnt give two craps about the American people.
     
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    Pssst, that was 8 YEARS ago and smart people adapt. FYI, you showed your own abilities when you used the words Blanket Amnesty, no one not even the President is suggesting one.
     
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    Losing money on Commerce at the border with our Commerce Clause, is worse; has the right no Faith in Capitalism even with our official Mint.
     
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    I'm curious. What exactly changed in Econ 101 or in the US economy since then that now makes it a good deal to add millions of mostly unskilled workers to the legal workforce?
     
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    Once again, Republican double standards at play.
     
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    Nothing, the amusement park business model makes multimillion dollar bonuses for better capitalists than we can muster to public office, and they don't even have recourse to an official Mint.
     
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    Well if they are getting jobs, then they are obviously not completely unskilled. If they are willing to work at crappy jobs at lower wages, that keeps money in the pockets of the Americans who employ them. Why shouldn't they be allowed to compete? Competition benefits everybody. What part of America's history of freedom and liberty makes anybody think it's a good idea to make it extremely difficult to come into our country to better their lots? That's what the ancestor of every American has done for hundreds of years, and it's the same thing that every immigrant would like to do, but the system is so screwed up, it takes years of waiting to get in. This is not how long it should take to come into a country that claims to stand for freedom and liberty.
     
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    it's a good deal when you are 'buying" their votes, and your party is on the edge of being exterminated by their commie failures. When we have 30 million unemployed, and another 30 million who might as WELL have no job, since their "wages' amount to slow starvation, and you "think" that letting in 10 million( not 5, they are lying) and ENCOURAGING 50 million more to come here, illegally, is a great idea.
     
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    Why not simply compensate US labor to do something else, with a form of minimum wage that can be applied for on an at-will basis simply for being unemployed. Eminent domain regarding the concept of a natural rate of unemployment could just be Socialism bailing out Capitalism, like usual; we have a (social) Commerce Clause not any form of (capital) prohibition clause.
     
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    They are foreigners who are competing with Americans. I've discovered on this forum that some people don't understand why an American might have a preference for Americans doing American jobs in America. If you are one of those, you're not really going to understand anything I say, but some of us would prefer not to drive down US wage rates to a median third world standard by allowing anyone in the world to come here and charge pennies on the dollar for their labor. That equals 10's or hundreds of millions of new imported poor who will be better off than they were in the third world crapholes they used to call home, but will leave tens of millions of unemployed and unemployable Americans.

    That's not a recipe for social peace.
     
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    Because you are not adding anyone they are already here and have been for over five years, so the problem with your math is you are attempting to add a number that is already included in the equation, that is how your math is off.
     
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    And, your Cause would be unJust by blaming any person but fellow citizens in the several States who are elected to their office of public Trust.

    All that is required, is enough social morals for free, to bear true witness instead of false witness and that form of being repugnant to our Founding Fathers if not any divine Creator, to Faith-fully execute a federal Doctrine and State laws in the most necessary and proper of manners and fashions.
     
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    The difference is that they are working in jobs illegally; either in cash under the table or with fraudulent social security numbers and identity documents. That makes it difficult to move. You don't see many illegals working, say in a major fast food chain since they couldn't get hired. With real work documents, the can go anywhere and get hired at all sorts of jobs, for higher pay. Meanwhile, new illegals will just take the previous cash under the table jobs or places that look the other way at fake ID. At least that was our experience with the 1986 amnesty. So, there isn't a problem with my math. You get a larger legal workforce and a larger total workforce, and all of the devaluation in wage rates that it implies.
     

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