Human "races" don't really exist

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Human races don't exist. Its simply a pseudo-scientific hypothesis created by white supremacists in the late 1800s, in order to box all humans into convenient little boxes of identity and divide the masses. And genetic science doesn't support it.

    Its more like a human tribal response codified into culture that often finds its way into scientific pursuits given the difficult nature of separating innate biases from academics.

    In group, out group thinking taking yet another form. If there is one thing us humans enjoy, it's the illusion of being special. Superiority complexes are merely the pinnacle of such thought.

    Humans do have a survival instinct to form groups and separate from others. The race hypothesis is part of that. Though I'm sure the rocket scientists who developed the race hypothesis, would admit it.
     
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    You have to define race to say it doesn't exist.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    genetic and phenotypical differences that seperate the human species into distinct & identifiable groups.
     
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    That can be done. There are several ways in which races has been defined biologically.

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    Out of these definitions the taxonomic definition is the one that I find to be most valid definition.

    http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v36/n11s/full/ng1455.html

    We argue that the correct use of the term 'race' is the most current taxonomic one, because it has been formalized. 'Race' gains its force from its natural science root. The term denotes 'natural' distinctions and connotes differences not susceptible to change.

    The above article contains the following summary points on the subject of race and human variation.

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    what is the genetic difference betwee breeds of dogs and cats?

    how about between human "races"?

    I bet our "races" don't even come close to dogs and cats, as far as genetic variability.
     
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    Genetic similarity "seperate the human species into distinct & identifiable groups". QED. Any other questions?
     
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    but there is no evidence that such groups actually exist.

    human groups that have more phenotypes in common, have less in common genetically.

    and groups that have more genetics in common, have less in common phenotypically.
     
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    What you write is a 180 degree inversion of the truth.
     
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    http://www.thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1071194&postcount=38
     
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    www.prometheism.net/library/CultureOfCritique.pdf
     
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    no, its a fact.

    Europeans are closer genetically to African blacks even though they have more phenotypically in common with East Asians.
     
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    Absolutely false.
     
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    Europeans and black Africans share ABO blood group at a much higher rate than Chinese.
     
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    They also have a similar average height.

    *facepalm*
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so you have no evidence that west Eurasians are closer genetically to east Asians than black Africans?
     
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    No, I have lots. Thanks.
     
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    show us.

    and Im talking evidence from after the year 2000


    no (*)(*)(*)(*) from 1964
     
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    if we use dog breeds as the rule of thumb as to how different populations of a sub-species have to be to seperate into "races", than human races do not exist as dog breeds are more than twice as different genetically than human "races".

    scientifically speaking, from a taxonomic perspective, human races or "breeds", don't exist.

    we are simply too similar.
     
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    Originally all humans were one race. As humans spread out from Africa, they adapted to their new environments. Different races are the byproduct of that adaptation.

    Eventually, Africa Americans will evolve to have lighter skin because their environment no longer requires dark skin to protect against the sun.
     
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    you don't understand how evolution works.

    African-Americans will continue to have dark skin as long as dark skin is selected as an advantageous trait or sexually appealing by their community.
     
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    We are all descendants of Adam and Eve, science studying mtDNA have identified four haplogroups which coincides with the four fertile women who emerged from the Ark.

    The sons of Noah:

    The family of Shem (meaning named or renowned) migrated into Africa, Persia, Alaska and some into Asia.

    Ham (meaning dark, burnt or hot) and his families moved into North Africa and the Far East, Australia and Polynesia.

    Japheth (defined as open, enlarged, fair or light) lived in what is now Europe and Scandinavia, Russia, Turkey, Greece, Slovenia, India, Macedonia, Italy

    The generations after stil have regions and cities named for them, i.e. Asshur = Assyria, Sin - Sinites = Sino China, Tarsish = Tarsus, .

    Before "The Origin Of Species and The Preservation of Favoured Races..." your race was which tribe of the sons of Noah you were from.
     
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    Communist pseudoscience. An attack on White nations.
     
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    there is no scientifically recognized taxonomic category for human beings beyond homo sapien sapiens.

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    silly fantasy mumbo-jumbo.

    the Bible is a book of silliness, not science.
     
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    The genealogy is accurate, which makes you a descendant of Jews.
     
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    You're saying Ronstar is a Jew?
     

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