This did not come about by chance...

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  1. NaturalBorn

    NaturalBorn New Member Past Donor

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    How could any thinking person assume a nanomachine like this one (of many different types within the cell) could have formed from a mud puddle by some random chance, is way beyond the boundaries of science and logic.

    Seeing this animation, and others like it, are evidence for an intelligent designer, just as one seeing a robotic arm on the International Space Station is evidence for design.





    [video=youtube_share;gbycQf1TbM0]http://youtu.be/gbycQf1TbM0?list=PL7Wwl5TzliiG 6D3XERntPg_A90z-hETkj[/video]
     
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    Raise your right hand and repeat after me: "Evolution is not a random process. Evolution is not a random process. Evolution is not a random process."

    Got it now?
     
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    Raise you right hand and repeat after me, evolution is a fairy tale, evolution is a religious belief evolution can not be proved scientifically.

    Got it? Good!
     
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    Somehow the information, the programming for this to occur had to come from an intelligent source. This could not have come about in some primordial ooze by chance.



    [video=youtube_share;1fiJupfbSpg]http://youtu.be/1fiJupfbSpg?list=PL7Wwl5TzliiG 6D3XERntPg_A90z-hETkj[/video]
     
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    an intelligent designer doesn't mean it was your silly Biblical God.
     
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    Well what silly being would you suggest?
     
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    Evolution isn't really random. It is in the sense of genes and chance, but to somehow say that we were designed the way we were, doesn't make much sense. We developed thumbs because we needed to grab things. Our brains got bigger because we didn't have the brawn to outfight our enemies.
     
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    well, the mutations are random.

    but them surviving and being passed on due to advantage or sexual selection, is NOT.
     
  9. AboveAlpha

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    Why do you repeatedly post nonsense like this?

    Is it that if you think if you post it enough time it will somehow become a fact?

    It won't.

    Evolution both Quantum and Biological are natural processes of the Universe and perhaps Multiverse.

    They have been proven upon a Quantum, Atomic and Molecular Level.

    There is no arguement or debate....Evolution is a FACT.

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    Did you even watch the videos? How could that occur by chance or by random mutations?
     
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    Because it has to as it is driven by Quantum Evolution.

    There is no chance....it is simple....if A and B and C are present and D is condition then X will develop.

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    You don't understand it.

    So, you conclude it was your god.

    That's been man's direction since man gained enough brain to look around and ask such questions - tens of thousands of years ago.
     
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    You know I don't mind of a Religious Person states that a GOD used the processes of Quantum and Biological Evolution to create the Universe and perhaps Multiverse and all life within as it is a statement that cannot be definitively proven or disproven although Probability Dictates an extremely low percentage of it being a reality but not zero%.

    But to just go off and state Evolution does not exist....well that simply is not only false but provably so.

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    I suggest to all those who don't understand what both Quantum and Biological Evolution really are and why they have been definitively proven upon a Quantum, Atomic and Molecular Level to take the time to educate themselves about what a VIRUS actually is.

    A Virus is not alive.

    But a Virus has DNA.

    The two men who won the Nobel Prize in Virology won in the Chemistry Category not the Biology Category.

    A Virus is a step just below life and it shows just how close Inanimate Matter is to Animate Matter or life.

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    just cause you don't understand something doesn't mean a Hebrew speaking God who throws a man into the belly of a whale, did it.
     
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    Yeah...some of those Biblical Stories are far fetched.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I agree. I've said pretty much the same to this particular poster in the past, too.

    As an allegory, the Bible works fine. As a literal and perfect treatise on all physics, well, no. That does not work.
     
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    So is that a no, you did not watch the video? Do you intend to attempt to understand what was on the videos by osmosis, or do you not wish to participate in this debate?
     
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    The sad thing is your basic Bible Thumper who expounds upon the virtues and truths of the King James Bible has absolutely no knowledge or education to allow them to understand HOW the Roman Imperial Biblical Canon created the Bible.

    The Canon only used the FAB FOUR APOSTELS of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

    Now...WHY is that?

    Because all the other Gospels not included into the New Testament had Apostles talking about how Jesus taught that ALL MEN COULD BE THE SON'S OF GOD....and this was very different to the Fab Fours...Jesus said he is the ACTUAL SON OF GOD.

    As well there is not one existing Gospel existing as they are copies of copies of copies of copies many times over and intent is lost.

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    If that is what you believe, them you have no explanation of how life began or operates.
     
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    why do we need an explenation?
     
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    I watched the video.

    Now....please...in your own words...explain how this video in any way supports Intelligent Design?

    AboveAlpha
     
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    As I have tried to explain there is very little difference between the Inanimate and Animate.

    The only difference is Molecular Complexity.

    When a Molecule developed by Quantum Evolution reaches a certain extreme level of complexity we get DNA...but that is not enough for Life as a Virus has DNA but is yet not alive.

    A bit more complexity and we get a Life Form.

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    Chance or design, it has to be one or the other you pick.

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    No, you are a few hundred years behind the times. Science confirms the Creation accounts, and these videos provide evidence of design.
     
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    No..it doesn't.

    Life exists because it must given the right circumstances...in very much the same way when Hydrogen is fused in a star we get Helium...and all light elements up to Iron.

    AboveAlpha

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    Why do you keep posting this as it is not even close to being a reality?

    AboveAlpha
     
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