One year after loosing Crimea and Donbass. Economics of Ukraine has fallen on 20%.

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  1. Terex13

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    It has passed only one year after the armed revolution in Kiev. Ukraine has lost Crimea and Donbass. Ukrainian goverment claim that Donbass has always been subsidized region. But what do we see now? The economy has fallen to 20%. And it's jast the beginning...

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    In 2008 Ukraine lost ~40% of economic (GDP have fallen from 180 to 15 billion dollars). It's not the worst in our history fall.
     
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    Can you give evidence that in 2008 the economy has fallen by 40%? Where did you get this facts?
     
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    Yes, I agree. In 2008, it was really The fall in GDP. But look, based on your graph, under Yanukovych and the Party of Regions in 2013 GDP was restored to the level of 2008 year! And anyway, it was a strong team!
    Now, after Poroshenko became president, there is no opposition.
    Look at today's deputies who are in the parliament! It's terrible...

    Ukraine has lost Donbass. Agree, it played a major role in the economy of Ukraine.
    So how do you think what today in Ukraine can raise GDP?
     
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    Economic growth:
    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/up.html
    0.4% (2013 est.)
    0.2% (2012 est.)
    5.2% (2011 est.)

    Obviously falling in 2014 and 2015.

    National dept increased in twice. Yanukovich liked getting billion credits, every year he was getting even more credits, that new ukrainian government (maybe it will be surprise for you).
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    In time of "Pokrashennya" Ukraine lost a half of national reserves:
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    New ukrainian government should pay from balanced reserves for Yanukovich's depts, especially for depts NaftaGas to russia. Just for Euro 2012 we he got credit for 40 billion dollars.
     
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    You cite beautiful digits. But the state - this is a great mechanism, which now goes by inertia after the reign of Yanukovych.
    And now the main task of the new government is to find the money. But nobody gives!
    And if gave, the credit would be greater than during Yanukovych.
    And if you were in Ukraine, you can see that:
    1. Hryvnia devalued 3 times and the average salary is now $ 100.
    2. The unemployment rate is rising.
    3. Companies are closed and no longer pay taxes in Ukraine, and the new do not open.
    4. There is a delay of social payments.
    5. Into country's leadership came people who never took the relevant posts (look at Cossack Havriluk, which yesterday ran naked on the Maidan, and today he is the Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada. And when in the interview he was asked - what laws did you take today? He replied " I don't remember).
    6. And the most interesting - when Yanukovych took credits, from your words, Poroshenko was a Minister of Finance! And before - one of the founders of the Party of Regions.
    And if you live in Ukraine, then you have to see how the standard of living and the economic situation is getting worse. A beautiful digits that you have brought, it is just political trick to the public.
     
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    6. Minister of Finances can't get any credits. Poroshenko had been a founder of Party of Regions but he ran away year past. Cossak Havriluck is better that a half of previous parliament.
    Economic situation is getting worse after 2008.
     
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    If you think that the Cossack Gavriliouk is better than half of previous parliament, I wish your that your life will be the same as life of Ukrainians with such government! :roflol:
     

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