Illegal aliens enjoy a free pass on identity theft

CALIFORNIA DMV ORDERED TO OVERLOOK IDENTITY THEFT BY ILLEGALS

Freaking unbelievable.

If I as an American were to fraudulently obtain a drivers license, I would be prosecuted and sent to prison for a few years. I would also would become a convicted felon, unable to vote or own a gun.

Just another law illegal aliens are exempt from being prosecuted for.

I would any illegal alien want legalization ? Right now they can come and go as they please and are exempt from many laws that American citizens would be prosecuted for.

Just another example of progressive liberals awarding criminal activity.

>" Illegal aliens may enjoy a free pass on identity theft due to a new investigative policy at California’s Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV).

The policy, issued last year and effective as of Jan. 1, 2015, directs DMV investigators to overlook identity theft by applicants “who may have attempted to obtain or been issued a license or ID card previously through submission of false information.”

A DMV source who asked to remain anonymous provided Breitbart News exclusively with a copy of the newly-enacted internal policy memorandum. The document informs DMV investigative officers that past identity theft is acceptable when the illegally-acquired IDs were only used to obtain a driver license, and where the license or ID was not used to commit any other crime.

It is unclear how investigators are meant to determine whether a falsely obtained driver license or ID was used solely for driving, or also to commit other crimes, such as using a fraudulently-obtained driver license to open a bank account, to apply for a loan, or even to purchase alcohol.

The policy seems to expect applicants to admit voluntarily to using a fraudulent driver license or ID for purposes other than driving a motor vehicle, if they did so.

Typically, identity theft may be prosecuted as a felony in California. The new DMV policy may be an attempt to protect illegal aliens from prosecution and conviction for a felony ..."<

continue -> http://www.breitbart.com/california...dered-to-overlook-identity-theft-by-illegals/

 

Sometimes what people are "allowed" to do is not the same thing as what the law says. It depends on who is administering the law, and how it is being enforced.

 

You sir, are a racist for even questioning our dear leaders on this.

 

That's nothing. The Senate Immigration bill amnestied you from two charges of passport fraud. Apparently 3 was too much, but 2 was just right.

 

I as an U.S. citizen aren't even allowed to commit any kind of fraud. The first time if a committed any kind of fraud I would be handcuffed, convicted and sent to the big house to share a cell with my new mate named Baba.

 

I've heard that while watching MSNBC and they said the same thing on the SPLC website. If you oppose any Obama or liberal policy, you are a racist.

 

Well that's why it's called amnesty.

 

Only criminals can be awarded amnesty and only convicted criminals can be granted a pardon.

Anyone who excepts an amnesty is admitting that they have committed a criminal act and are a criminal.

 

Right. That's the point.

 

So why are there so many on the left who claim that being an illegal alien isn't a crime but they support awarding amnesty to illegal aliens ?

Are we dealing with stupid people or what ?

 

Not stupid, they just don't care about the law. They regard it as a big buzzkill. Have you heard any complaints from the left about Obama's just made up executive amnesty? They've given up on law.

 

I get it, the liberals have just gave up on the rule of law and have thrown the Constitution into the dumpster.

They are quitters. When the going gets tough, they give up.

 

Such identity matters are controlled by the states many of which have Republican governors and legislatures.

Therefore, you need to blame the Republicans.


After all, the vast majority of illegals came here after 2000 when traitor Bush got into the White House and created that mess.

 

Am I understanding wrong? From what I can infer from this thread an Islamist terrorist who wants to enter US has got just to find a way to reach Mexico and then to pass the borderline with US waiting to be detected as "illegal alien" ...

Sorry, but according to EU right, the word "illegal" has still got a clear meaning [I don't know in US ...].

 

It was CPUSA, Party for Socialism and Liberation, MEChA, MALDEF, National Council of La Raza, ACLU and the Democrat Party where you have radical leftist (formerly known as the New Left) hiding behind the label of liberal and Progressive who created this mess.

The day we start securing our borders and start enforcing our immigration laws that are already on the books and you hear the above mentioned groups yelling racism, then you know we are fixing that mess.

 

Baloney - it was REPUBLICAN Bush who opened the borders and tried to give them amnesty just like Reagan.

 

You are only 10% correct. G.W. Bush did support rewarding criminals with amnesty. This is one of the main reasons why Bush lost the support of the conservative base with in the GOP.

But Bush didn't open up the border like Obama has. The U.S. Border Patrol was increased in size under Bush and continued to apprehend illegal aliens at the border and interior enforcement of our immigration laws continued under Bush.

Where as Obama has actually ordered the Border Patrol to stand down and there has been no interior enforcement of our immigration laws under the Obama administration.

Obama even went further with another lie,besides declaring our borders were secured, he claimed that he was the Deporter in Chief but it was just another lie. Obama cooked the numbers. He counted illegal aliens caught at the border who were sent back across the border into Mexico as deportations. Only a federal judge can deport someone. The facts are more deportations took place under the Bush administration. Under the Obama administration, any illegal alien including terrorist, pedephiles, gang bangers and violent criminals who make it into the American interior are free from being apprehended and deported.

 

correction: 100%, not 10%

 

>" Under Bush, the majority of immigrants that the U.S. sent home were simply &#8220;returned.&#8221; Nobody took their fingerprints or put a permanent mark on their immigration records. Instead, U.S. authorities put them on buses and sent them back across the border. Between 2001 and 2008, there were over 8.3 million of these informal &#8220;returns,&#8221; according to the Department of Homeland Security. There were, by contrast, just 2 million &#8220;removals.&#8221; Those are the more formal deportations&#8212;the ones that go through some form of individual review, with an officer if not a judge, and become part of deportees&#8217; permanent records.

But in the second half of the Bush administration, DHS decided to up the number of &#8220;removals&#8221; and limit the number of &#8220;returns.&#8221; The government hoped to deter immigrants from sneaking back into the country by making it clear that the U.S. knew who they were&#8212;and could punish them more harshly if they showed up again. Under Obama, DHS has stuck with this policy. Between 2009 and 2012, the number of deportations and informal returns was roughly the same&#8212;about 1.6 million each. Add up all the relevant numbers, you&#8217;ll see removals are on track to end up higher under Obama than Bush (Lind&#8217;s point in Vox) but that removals plus returns will end up higher under Bush than Obama (Davis&#8217; point in The Federalist)..."<
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/...er-obama-vs-bush-who-deported-more-immigrants

Bush 8 million vs. Obama's 2 million.

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/...stration-inflates-deportation-statistics.html

From the LIBERAL Los Angeles Times.

High deportation figures are misleading

WASHINGTON &#8212; Immigration activists have sharply criticized President Obama for a rising volume of deportations, labeling him the "deporter in chief" and staging large protests that have harmed his standing with some Latinos, a key group of voters for Democrats.

But the portrait of a steadily increasing number of deportations rests on statistics that conceal almost as much as they disclose. A closer examination shows that immigrants living illegally in most of the continental U.S. are less likely to be deported today than before Obama came to office, according to immigration data.

Expulsions of people who are settled and working in the United States have fallen steadily since his first year in office, and are down more than 40% since 2009...."<
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-deportations-20140402-story.html#page=1

 

So why did Ronald Raygun grant them amnesty and why did Bush support it also, are they stupid people also? Want to know who the stupid people really are; they are the ones that why on and on about the other guys handing out Amnesty to illegals but ignore the fact that their guys have done it and the fact that their guys are no better are addressing the issue by arresting those that bring the illegals here in the first place, business owners, but that would require them to bite the hand that feeds them.

 

Because the Democrats refused to pass the Simpson-Mazzoli Act, aka 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act unless there was an amnesty amendment attached to the bill. The Democrats promised that it would be a one time amnesty never repeated again. It was all a lie, six more amnesties were snuck through Congress during the Clinton administration.

If you actually look at and read the 1986 ITCA you will notice that it's an enforcement act. There's a small amendment that was attached to the bill that awarded criminality with amnesty. Read it. -> http://library.uwb.edu/guides/usimmigration/100 stat 3359.pdf

When the Reagan administration started enforcing the bill and put Harold Ezel in charge of the western region of the INS, CPUSA, Party of Socialism and Liberation, MEChA, La Raza, the radical left in Congress (The New Left) today known as progressive liberals all started yelling racism. Harold Ezel who was getting the job done was forced to resign.

When you see our borders being secured and our immigration laws being enforced is when you will hear the left yelling racism. If you don't hear it, it means our borders are wide open and our laws aren't being enforced.

THE SEVEN AMNESTIES PASSED BY CONGRESS

One during the Reagan administration.
Six under the Clinton administration

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/illegal-immigration/seven-amnesties-passed-congress.html

 

ROTFLMAO!
So now the actions taken by RR are the Democrats fault? Only in the mind of a Con.

 

I was around back then and was part of the RNC at the time and we had a problem with the amnesty amendment that the Democrats introduced on the floor of the House.

The facts are, the Democrats refused to vote for the Simpson-Mazzoli Act unless there was an amnesty. In the begining when the Simpson-Mizzoli bill was first written, there was no amnesty provision.

It's still true today, in the past 22 years every border enforcement or immigration reform bill that has been introduced in the House or the Senate that didn't include awarding illegal aliens with amnesty, the Democrats refused to support the bill.

America's immigration policies should be for what's best for America not what's best for the immigrant or one political party.

 

I understand that I was around at the time also. So you are admitting that RR sold out the Nation by giving in?

 

It's called compromise.

Obama should try it some time. It's part of being a competent leader.

Now remember, the Democrats promised the American people that the 1986 amnesty would be a one time amnesty never again to be repeated. It was all a lie.