Can the KKK, the Black Panther, and Other Similar Groups Be Considered As Terrorists?

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Is the KKK terrorist organization?

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  1. PGreen

    PGreen Banned

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    Actually, terror organizations are hard to define because terror can exist in so many ways. But if these groups fit the definition of terrorists, they should theoretically be one of the groups targeted by the War on Terror, right?
     
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    I'm not so sure ...

    General KKK can be also a terrorist organization, with reference to some activities and some periods of its history, but as for its nature, it's not "terrorist" in proper sense, but racist, xenophobe, if we want. Sure extremist and able to run criminal activities.

    To be properly terrorist, KKK should have among its original purposes the one to spread terror in the general society, the whole American society. Since they tend to spread terror in a sector of the American society, they are not exactly "terrorist", but they can become racist criminals.

    But, if we turn the table and we consider that the "sector" of the American society targeted by KKK is anyway a part of the American Society ... KKK can be considered a terrorist organization as well ...

    In Italy, just to say, we see KKK as a group of organizations [not an unitary one] and not rarely those organization carrying the KKK symbol are properly terrorist groups.

    So, if the question is: can KKK be considered a terrorist organization? The answer is "Yes, it can".
    But to a more general direct question ... "Is KKK a terrorist organization? The answer is more complicated.
     
  3. FreshAir

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    if their members commit terrorsits acts, then yes

    even pro-life groups that bomb medical facility are terrorist groups, and those that donate to them are terrorist supporters
     
  4. Tommy Palven

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    Anyone who tears a tag off a mattress can be considered a terrorist.
     
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    Extremists, yes. Terrorists no unless they are responsible for a pattern of terrorist attacks. I dont think thats the case.
     
  6. PatriotNews

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    What pro-life groups have ever bombed a medical facility? I guarantee you can't name one.

    Funny the terrorist groups like KKK and Black Panthers are both creations of liberals or democrats. I can't think of any right-wing terror groups.
     
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    the kkk is a Christian Religious Right group, not a liberal group

    yeah, those goody too-shoe pro-lifers would never bomb a medical facility, or kill a Dr in his own church while he was assisting with church services.. some pro-lifers are terrorists...fact

    some of the bombers even bombed on Christmas, happy birthday Jesus...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

     
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    The KKK is legally a terrorist group that's why they conceal their members

    Pay no attention the moron who thinks the KKK is a liberal leftist group he doesn't even know the definitions of those words. He probably thinks alqueda is liberal organization
     
  11. PatriotNews

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    I guess we'll have to disagree. I've always been taught that the democrats used the KKK to harass and/or lynch Catholics, Jews, blacks and republicans. What part of that is not true? The KKK was the terrorist wing of the democrat party not the republican. At it's height in the 1910's and early 20's, that was due to Woodrow Wilson and the democrats. Woodrow Wilson was a far-left liberal democrat. The first movie at the White House was the pro-KKK movie, Birth of a Nation under Wilson. Calvin Coolidge was anti-Klan and membership dropped under him.

    As far as I know, nobody has pointed out a right-wing terrorist group.
     
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    Pro-life, itself, is something typically supported by conservatives. At least, that is the image presented. Does this make anti-abortion a conservative argument?

    The Black Panthers and the KKK have been labelled as far left, but there goals and desires are not liberal. The Black Panthers and the KKK typically call for the advancement of their own particular races over that of others. There's nothing liberal about these viewpoints.

    As for the KKK, they were once Democrats, but now they identify themselves as more conservative-based, if not some form of neo-fascism. Also, most of the south was Democratic at that time. Now, they are not. Things change...
     
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    Democrats do not equal left wing
    Republicans do not equal right wing

    Left wing means egalitarianism
    Right wing means social heiarchy

    Democrats used to be right wing
    Republicans used to be left wing

    Saying the KKK is leftwing is moronic because your basically saying they fought for equality
     
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    if you were taught that, they you must of been taught at a religious school that refused to admit the kkk was a Christan hate group
     
  15. PatriotNews

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    Granted, there is a difference between left/right political ideologies, and racism. Racism or nationalism is often incorrectly viewed by some as right-wing. Someone can be left leaning or right leaning and still be prejudice based on their own feelings of their own racial superiority.

    But often it is said the KKK was right-wing, when in fact, the democrat party was the liberal party. Then people will say, yeah, but the South was the racist KKK wing of the democrat party and they were right-wing because they were the racist. But that overlooks the fact that the KKK was not only in the South, it was very popular in the Midwest and some Eastern and Northern states and less so in Western states.

    Some say the KKK of today are more conservative. I wouldn't know if that is true only because they are so few in numbers today that they are quite marginalized. They are insignificant and only hurt themselves.
     
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    it would depend on if they commit any violence.
     
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    Which the black panther party never did. The black panthers did things like provide free breakfast for school children. And advocate for civil rights. Towards the end of their group they actually more white members then black

    All they did was kill 7 crooked racist cops that had done things like commit drive by shootings of their meeting hall.

    KKK killed millions and white supremacist propaganda works so well people actually think their equal
     
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    The KKK was 100% started by Democrats, but not liberals.

    The argument Democrats make is that their platform has changed.
     
  19. PatriotNews

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    Yeah, well I have debunked that myth in these threads:

    The Myth of the Southern Strategy

    Democratic Party's record on Race Part II

    With the exception of Theodore Roosevelt, the GOP has always been the conservative party, the democrat the liberal party.
     
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    Okay so why did the south go from voting solid Democrat too solid Republican?

    Eh why am I bothering you'll either ignore my questions or just start babbling about some conspiracy maybe involving aliens or something
     
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    Reread your history. The democrats at the time were very conservative. This is why, from 1880 to 1924, the south voted democrat in every presidential election (see here). It was FDR and his liberal policies that caused the flip in the parties.
     
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    Really? That's not true at all. Republicans were always conservative except Teddy.

    Look at the issues. Wilson was a lib too. Very liberal.

    The South voted democrat into the 1980's, 1990's and some even into this last election before it turned truly red.

    Your facts don't match the facts.
     
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    What nonsense between 1980 and now Democrats have been lucky if they won a single state in the south

    http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_South

    Lets talk about the real issue your saying there has been massive conspiracy against conservatives too change history too make them look racist

    So who is responsible for this massive cover up and misinformation? Extraterrestrials? The Jews ? Officer barbrady?
     
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    So a strong federal government rather than strong state rights is a conservative ideal? Actually, the ideologies of conservative and liberal are so relative and they have changed so much over time you can't even begin to compare them to today.

    Also, I never said the south didn't vote Democrat after 1924, I said that between 1880 and 1924, they ONLY voted Democrat.
     
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    There was a time when everyone supported the 10th Amendment. But like much of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, it has fallen out of favor with the democrat party lately.
     

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