Why Don't Liberals Care About Black-on-Black Killing?

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  1. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    By Christopher Chantrill
    Feb. 28, 2015


    The good thing about a book like Ghettoside: "A True Story of Murder in America is that it's real reportage about murder in the African American ghetto; it's not just narrative from the usual social justice warriors".

    Author Leovy's angle is that routine murder in African American ghettos is invisible, in the sense that individual murders don't get a write-up in the paper. So she decided to do something about it, The Homicide Report, a blog that documents each and every murder in LA. (http://www.npr.org/2015/01/26/381589023/ghettoside-explores-why-murders-are-invisible-in-los-angeles)

    Each murder, routine as it is, devastates a family, but the cops only arrest a suspect in about 40 percent of the murders. To add insult to injury, the cops compensate by harassing young men on the street with arrests for minor infractions.

    Of course, everybody knows “who dunnit” because the perpetrators typically come around to the victim's home and taunt the grieving family.

    Why would they do that? Because the gang-bangers need to intimidate potential witnesses. Thus, everybody knows who did it, but nobody is willing to testify. Here's the scoop, buried in the middle of the Fresh Air interview:

    [Leovy:] I spoke to a mother, once, in South Bureau - black woman - her son had just been murdered. I think this was maybe a couple of days after the murder. I had gone to her door. And it was one of these cases where the police just had no witnesses. The case wasn't going anywhere. The mother told me that since the murder, the killers, who she knew, who were, I think, the gang members who lived on her street, had been knocking on her door and taunting her and laughing at her - her grief.​


    What is the African American response to this? It is “Snitches get stitches.” And what is the liberal response to this? It is to blame the police for police brutality. You couldn't invent a better way to keep the killing going.

    **[Snip]**
    We all accept urban violence as endemic, not epidemic. But let's do a thought experiment. Imagine what would happen if, say, the NRA and the Tea Party started killing each other in a suburban turf war.

    I will tell you what would happen. Number one, white suburbanites would insist that their mayors and city councils stopped the violence yesterday, or say good-bye to elective office. Number two, the liberal media would run wall-to-wall coverage about violence in the very DNA of America.

    But with black-on-black violence, the media say nothing (except for Jill Leovy), the liberals do nothing, and inner-city residents reelect their race-baiting minority politicians.


    (Excerpt)

    Read more:
    http://www.americanthinker.com/arti...iberals_care_about_blackonblack_killing_.html


    We've seen this happening nationwide. It's not just the race baiting pimps that are responsible, or the Progressive Marxist Left. It's the apathy of the American public and the lack interest on the part of the Fourth Estate, which has now become the Fifth Column for the Left. If there were real interest in the deaths of Black Americans on a wholesale basis and doing something about it , the war would be on gangs and those that perpetrate gang and Progressive ideology.
     
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    Cautiously Conservative New Member Past Donor

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    This is a sad, but realistic situation that inner-city Blacks must tolerate. To answer your question of why liberals don't address it is because liberals only care about the black community inasmuch as they can benefit from it. If liberals can buy votes by promising social programs or reparations - then the liberals benefit. But, if we point out that there is a high rate of black-on-black crime, then we have to account for what that is. If we start accounting for why that is - we see that the rise in black crime was consistent with the rise in social programs that minimized blacks in the workforce. Enter the liberals trying to secure votes. Instead of advocating that young women not give birth outside wedlock, they initiated programs whereby the young women could benefit financially from having more children and no husband.

    The young men, once the liberals started "doing for them" quit trying as hard to do for themselves. Not only did this work against the young men - it angered them. And, rightly so. Would you not be angered by programs that sent the message, "We're doing this for you - because you can't do it for yourself?" Anyone would be angry. And angry young men lash out. It's been that way throughout history.

    Black-on-black crime is an anomaly created by liberals, whose social programs have emasculated the young males.

    Liberals won't admit it - actually - they'll blame it on conservatives. But, when you look at the history of the situation, you will see when it increased and what else was taking place at that time.

    For shame, liberals.

    For shame.
     
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    What would you like to do about it?

    Smaller government? Reduce welfare? More guns?
     
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    "Why Don't Liberals Care About Black-on-Black Killing?"

    Everyone should be concerned about any killing. We hear quite often about black on black crime, but not so ofter about white on white crime. I wonder why that is?

    “Blacks represent 13% of the population but commit 50% of the murders; 90% of black victims are murdered by other blacks," writes Time's Joe Klein, calling for "provocative" thinking on race in America. "The facts suggest that history is not enough to explain this social disaster."
    Yet the disturbing truth, according to the FBI's most recent homicide statistics, is that the United States is in the wake of an epidemic of white-on-white crime. Back in 2011, the most recent year for which data is available, a staggering 83 percent of white murder victims were killed by fellow Caucasians.”
    http://www.vox.com/2014/8/21/6053811/white-on-white-murder
     
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    "Why Don't Liberals Care About Black-on-Black Killing? '

    why would you say such a silly thing, we want all murderers that are caught to go to prison for life, regardless of race, gender... regardless if they wear a badge or not, ect....

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  7. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More policing in critical zones along with stop and frisk. It worked in NY city until DeBlasio stopped it. Crime is now on the rise where it was being lessened.
     
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    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    so you point of this post is?????????????/

    Sounds like I showed you facts and you don't like them.
     
  10. Brewskier

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    They can't advance their agenda by talking about black on black crime. That's the short answer.
     
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    Kranes56 Banned

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    When your argument can be debunked by Jon Stewart, the argument is pretty bad.
    [video=youtube;T_98ojjIZDI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_98ojjIZDI[/video]
    3:15-4:20

    If you don't believe him,
    "Funny you should ask. Sharpton made a publicized trip to Chicago in November to focus attention on the city's chronic violence. Last year, Michelle Obama attended the funeral of Hadiya Pendleton, a 15-year-old black honor student who was shot, allegedly by a black gang member.

    lRelated Ferguson and our stubborn racial divide
    STEVE CHAPMAN
    Ferguson and our stubborn racial divide
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    The first lady later returned to Chicago to converse with students at a school that is nearly 100 percent African-American. "In choosing Harper High School for the visit, the White House noted that 29 current or former students there had been shot in the last year, eight of them fatally," reported the Tribune."
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...arpton-jason-riley-steve-20140820-column.html

    "Beyond the data, there’s the anecdotal evidence. And in short, it’s easy to find examples of marches and demonstrations against crime. In the last four years, blacks have held community protests against violence in Chicago; New York; Newark, New Jersey; Pittsburgh; Saginaw, Michigan; and Gary, Indiana. Indeed, there’s a whole catalog of movies, albums, and sermons from a generation of directors, musicians, and religious leaders, each urging peace and order. You may not have noticed black protests against crime and violence, but that doesn’t mean they haven’t happened. Black Americans—like everyone else—are concerned with what happens in their communities, and at a certain point, pundits who insist otherwise are either lying or willfully ignorant."
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...ck_on_black_crime_sugge sting_otherwise.html
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    end the war on drugs and let police get back to working for the people instead of against them.....

    they will have a lot more time to fight REAL crimes then, gangs will no longer be financed by the war, it's a win\win


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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For who Addicts and Hop heads of the Liberal Left?
     
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    Oh Come Now

    Look at the considerable difference of energy spent in Chicago compared to Ferguson.
    Chicago was just a performance for the White Liberal Press and nothing more.
    Did they take a "gun collection" in "the hood"?

    How about a silent, midnight march in the 'hood to declare the area safe.
    Nothing but a horse and donkey show for whitie, don'tchysee. Poor Jon doesn't get it.
    So much Black Energy spent in Ferguson, so little spent in Chicago - considering the numbers.
    The Black Community is basically protectionist regarding Black on Black crime and murder.
    And Black leaders likewise remain unsurprisingly ineffectual and under attentive to the problem



    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


    No :flagcanada:
     
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    There's a saying, the media reports on the unusual. Who's to say that these vigils and demonstrations are so common, that the national media just doesn't notice them. Just because the national media doesn't pay attention doesn't mean they're not occuring.
     
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    NYC's murder rate keeps dropping, because we care a lot about black-on-black crime.

    that's why we have tough mandatory sentences for illegal gun possession, and damn good policing strategies that focus efforts on high crime/murder areas, that just happen to be overwhelmingly black/Hispanic.

    the biggest victims of crime in NYC are blacks/Hispanics, and the biggest benefactors of our great anti-crime strategies are blacks/Hispanics.

    so take your strawman elsewhere
     
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    Because acknowledging black-on-black violence interrupts the narrative which states that innocent black boys are murdered by racist police who get a thrill out of shooting blacks.
     
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    Hold individuals accountable for their actions rather than try to explain the behavior away.
     
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    Yeah, but they only go out looting and rioting when a black kid is shot by a white cop - that is the ONLY time it makes national headlines and the ONLY time President Obama gets involved.

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    But why is it only national news when a black kid is shot by a white cop? Why only then does President Obama prognosticate?
     
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    The response is disproportionate when it is a white cop on a black kid. This is the only time we are told "black lives matter."

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    Are we free or not? If we are free then it is no business of government what a free adult citizen chooses to put in his body. The war on drugs has done more to destroy freedom over the past 30 years when Nancy Reagan told us to "just say no." I would have been fine with it, but the First Lady's husband didn't stop there... it was "just say no or we will destroy the Fourth Amendment."
     
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    There is nothing unusual about blacks rioting and looting every time a white cop shoots a black kid. It happens every time. EVERY... TIME.
     
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    That is because they are also the biggest perpetrators. And that is the point of this thread. When a black kid is shot by a white cop it is a national news story for three months and there are riots and looting. When a black kid pops a cap in another black kid's ass, you won't hear about it outside of maybe channel 13.
     
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    LoL, now you want to equate a white cop with some thug in Chicago? I'll ask again, you expect a cop(white/black/Asian) that is on the taxpayer's dole that has extensive training and testing, to be on the same level as some two bit thug in the ghetto? Because that is exactly what you are saying when you try to compare an incident of a cop shooting an unarmed individual to a gang shooting.

    :roflol:
     
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    For every skel that tries to shoot his way out of arrest, ten are killed in gangland senseless murder including the innocent bystanders like kids.
     
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    For the first time I have to agree with you.
     

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