Geopolitical maps.

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  1. william walker

    william walker New Member

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    All the territory within the black circle Britain must have sovereignty over. The nations with the red dots in them are existential threats to Britain. The nations with the orange dots in them Britain must keep independent. The nations with the green dots in them Britain must dominate.

    Please post your of geopolitical maps of your own nations geostrategic considerations and existential threats.
     
  2. Cordelier

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    I think the Irish may have a problem with that... not to mention the Norwegians and the Danes. Just a shot in the dark here - you wouldn't happen to be UKIP, would you?
     
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    william walker New Member

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    What the hell does UKIP have to do with anything?

    Sure people in Ireland currently would have a problem rejoining the British nation state. However if Britain attempts to manipulate Ireland after the break up of the EU and NATO Britain will in time force Ireland back into the British state. It did it before, I believe the past 40 years of full Irish independence are a blip because of other external factors from the Cold war, EU and political change in Britain.

    The Norwegians and Danish would fined it perfectly acceptable, they are protected and supported by Britain against Germany and Russia. I mean the US dominates Canada, but it isn't bad for Canada.
     
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    The Norwegians and Danish mostly just want to remain neutral. They're happy to provide their support to U.S. and E.U. causes, of course, but want to retain their independence, while keeping their longstanding brotherly association with their other Nordic neighbors.
     
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    Absolutely nothing... assuming we're talking about reality.

    I think you've got about as much chance of the US rejoining the British state as Ireland.

    The US dominates Canada? That's news to me. Sure, it has a major effect on Canada, but I don't think it's fair to go so far as to say it "dominates". That being said, I'm not sure why you feel Germany and Russia have formed an "axis" that must be opposed. This conversation has the feel of the 19th Century, not the 21st.
     
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    Well, let's put it in perspective. The single U.S. state of California has more people than the entire country of Canada.
    True, California has seen a huge amount of immigration from foreign countries in the last few decades, but still.
     
  7. Cordelier

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    And the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia has more people than the Netherlands, but does that mean the Dutch are in thrall to the Germans? No doubt German policies have a major effect on the Netherlands, but the Dutch are fully capable of making their own voices heard as well.
     
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    If you tried to take over Ireland you would experience total war. They would put every ounce of effort they have into destroying the British state. You would be required to murder a significant number of them, and make the rest second class citizens. Norway would resist until you placed them under permanent armed occupation.

    France and Germany would declare total war.

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    Sounds like you're the existential threat to everyone else.
     
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    That is because the Dutch control the largest deep port in Europe Rotterdam, through which much of Germany's exports and imports must go through. Also the Dutch have the French and British right next to them and they can counter balance the Germany's of against the British and French.

    Canada has no manipulation it can bring against the US, the US dominates Canada and controls its internal economic future.
     
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    william walker New Member

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    No they want to have power in their own right. The Danish and Norwegians have interests if different places, they have things to offer Britain in the Arctic and Greenland, in energy, and strategically as a buffer from Germany and Russia. The Danish and Norwegians want to be independent, but the only way they will get that is with British support.

    Also this Nordic union thing is a lot of rubbish, the Danish hate the Swedish, the Norwegians have issues with Denmark and Sweden.
     
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    william walker New Member

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    No the US is 3,000 miles away. Irish is connected to Britain through Ulster, history, economically dependent upon Britain and politically its constrained by Britain. All this power Britain has means Ireland is forced to counter act Britain through the EU and US.
     
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    All the EU members ought unite in one country under the leadership of the Pope.

    Those who are not in the EU should be invaded and conquered and force to convert
    to Catholicism. Then we invade Africa and the Middle East.
     
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    The only nation that Britain should have an influence is the United Kingdom & N. Ireland itself, & all its dependencies such as Gibraltar, Falklands etc. Other than that free-trade agreements is all we should wish to have with the rest of the World.
     
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    Can you do a map to show me what you mean?
     
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    Why is Germany and France a threat? You do realize that WW2 is over?
     
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    You left the vast majority of the world off of your map. The world would draw a circle around your entire map and giggle at you.
     
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    Because they are about the same size as us and are right next to us. They can't help but be a threat, it doesn't mean they are bad or our enemies, it just means if they decide to be they would be existential threat to Britain. Geopolitics doesn't end with a war, it just changes the balance or not in some cases.

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    Indeed, but the world doesn't matter to Britain. Only Europe and North America.
     
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    We already kinda did that none of ti went well.
     
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    Not really, as the locations I mentioned are far apart.

    I wish that back in the 70's the UK hadn't made the mistake of joining the EEC & had at that time forged closer trading links with the rest of the Commonwealth Countries.

    As time has passed since that disastrous decision to join the EEC, our trade with our European neighbours has less & less depended upon our EU membership, and can more be more regulated under World Trade Organisations such as GATT. If the UK left the EU, there would be no loss of trade with other EU members as a result of other trade agreements.

    In fact we are better of concentrating our exports to the USA, India, China & other Countries than we are with EU members. And we would save £13 billion in EU contributions, & do away with a much larger amount of bureaucracy costs to British business.

    It is a no brainer, it simply doesn't benefit the UK public to be a member of the EU.

    It does benefit large multi-national employers who can drive down the labour costs by having a huge amount of cheap labour that will migrate to any country where they wish to base their next factory.
     
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    This makes sense if yoou set it in about 1290

    A post stronbow Ireland is in Feu to The King of England

    The Holy Roman Empire and the French are a constant threat as are raiding pirates from a Post Viking Iceland
     
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    What the hell? What world do you live in?
     

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