Prove Earth is a Sphere without using the word NASA

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  1. Validation Boy

    Validation Boy Well-Known Member

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    Oblate Spheroid you say?

    That's called disinformation, and it's a Bernaysian perception manipulation tactic.

    Their oblate spheroid claim still leaves you thinking its DEFINITELY NOT flat, and that's all that matters to them.

    So I challenge all PFers right now.....

    Prove to me that the earth is spherical, without using any NASA related materials.

    Proof of burden lies on the shoulders of those making the claim.

    You want me to believe our Govt & NASA's socio-political propaganda? Then make me.

    (Keep in mind the fact that a fully functioning, 100% mathematically perfect, flat earth, stationary geocentric model of our solar system was used for thousands of years, right up until European monarchies needed to convince sailors it was safe to travel the unknown seas in the name of Imperialist Expansionism)
     
  2. Karma Mechanic

    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    So you want proof but want to reject some proof.
    OKay
    http://www.arvindguptatoys.com/arvindgupta/earthpix.pdf

    Also simply put if the earth was flat the stars would not change as we moved north or south from the equator.
     
  3. Validation Boy

    Validation Boy Well-Known Member

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    Everything in that propaganda was nullified by the OP.

    In your eagerness to punk VB, you didn't notice my additional comment.

    Go back and try again. I'll be waiting.
     
  4. Tram Law

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    Look up Eratosthenes.

    You're really showing your true intelligence and education.

    Are you sure you're not being paid by Russia?
     
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    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you saying you believe the earth is flat? Or is this a puzzle question, you're just looking for a way to demonstrate the earth is round?





     
  6. Karma Mechanic

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    so exactly what I thought. Facts mean nothing to you.

    Your last statement is meaningless and completely false.
     
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    The ancient Greeks knew the earth was round. Think shadows, sticks, and even a well in Egypt where the sun illuminates the bottom at noon on midsummer's day. Then there's the basic fact that a ship sails over the horizon and disappears from view.
     
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    Here's one strategy. Place a flashlight on the ground, walk one mile away from in a straight line along the flattest surface you can find. Put your eye on the ground. You won't be able to see the light. Raise your eye one inch at a time until you can see the light. At about eight inches from the ground, you'll see it.

    This demonstrates that seemingly flat surface is convex with a curvature of about 8 inches per mile. You can test over a longer distance by putting the flashlight on top of a tower. Do it enough and you'll convince your self that the earth's surface is curved. If the whole surface is curved, with roughly that same curvature, that surface will eventually meet itself and form a ball. You can even calculate it's diameter.

    Is this what you're looking for?



     
  9. Validation Boy

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    Isaac Asimov was a Science FICTION author.

    Don't really care what he has to say about anything.

    And, knowing he was paid by the govt to produce that bit of propaganda doesn't help, either.
     
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    There's no evidence that anybody ever fell over an "edge" of the earth, prove there is.
     
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    I put people on my ignore list for vacuous stupidity, not ideology.

    Anyone care to guess whether the OP is on my ignore list?
     
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    Isaac Asimov was a professor of biochemistry at Boston University.



     
  13. Validation Boy

    Validation Boy Well-Known Member

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    These are the kinds of arguments I was looking for. Thank you.

    However, that's just another variation of the ship sail horizon phenomenon.

    That's long been debunked, as we know that once you peer through a telescope at ground level, the flashlight/ship sail will appear, once again, in its entirety.

    This is called the Law of Perspective.

    The same thing happens with any object moving away from the observer.

    Its a mirage, and its been proven to be an invalid answer to the question.

    But I do appreciate your reply.

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    Biochemistry has nothing to do with his love of Science FICTION.

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    I'll guess!

    Is it because VB says things that make you feel like you've been lied to your entire life by a parasitic Govt, hellbent on controlling your perception??

    If I'm your ignore list, then WHY ARE YOU ON MY OP???????????????????
     
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    I don't think that's true. Sure your eye has a limited resolution and so it might have trouble discerning a sailboat at a great enough distance, a problem that can be corrected with a higher resolution lens. But if you put even the brightest light in the world behind the curvature of the earth no lens can help you.

    Put one in China, and try and see it from Denver. Not even the most advanced telescope will detect it's light. Because there is rock between you and it. And light does not travel through rock.

    Move that light closer to you. If it's bright enough it will eventually appear on the horizon. When you measure that distance you'll see it's some number of miles from you that are equal the height of your eye in inches, divided by 8.

    And if you then then timed the pules of that light and used them to measure the distance between your eye and the source you'd find the three distances (eye from earth, eye from light, and your position on the earths surface from it's position) can't form a right triangle. One of the three cannot be a straight line: the path traveled by light, you, or the earth's surface.




     
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    Seek professional help.
     
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    The horizon
     
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    His love of science fiction has nothing to do with his ability to present scientific proofs. His certifications as a doctor and professor of science at university does.




     
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    It's 2015 and people are still claiming a flat earth?? Humanity is doomed.
     
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    I don't think he's claiming that. I think he was just posing a puzzle.

    But yes, we are doomed.




     
  20. Karma Mechanic

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    So you detach yourself from reality.
     
  21. Validation Boy

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    But does it, really?

    Who can prove that universities teach truth?

    I don't think they do.

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    Actually, you're the one who is detached.

    Where exactly are you getting your arguments?

    Exactly.
     
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    I would go with the fact that a statute mile is 5,280 feet in length, where a nautical mile is 6,076 feet.
     
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    You can fly or sail all the way around it and end up right where you started, that alone proves it is a sphere, to dent it is simple ignoring reality. End of discussion.
     
  24. Validation Boy

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    I've seen video proof of the ship sail phenomenon being disproven.

    And as far as triangulation of light, you lost me on the light pulses.

    The sun is the brightest light, and it doesn't pulse, at least not to humans on earth. Its a constant source of light, and its light does appear when it itself is beyond your perspective.
     
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    You've probably never seen the flat earth model, then.

    What you speak of is completely invalidated by it.

    Beginning of discussion.
     

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