Pure Zionism by the right in Israel

One problem with the right in Israel is their form of pure Zionism. I don’t mean that the right in Zionism represent authentic Zionism(after all it’s near conscious including among many Israelis that the occupation will make it impossible to be a Jewish and democratic state, it’s why every party to the left of Likud doesn’t want to hold onto the West Bank). What I mean is a Zionism where Israel can do no wrong and doesn’t view the perspective of the other side. Although not without its flaws like wealth inequality and status of Bedouin in the Negev, it is a great democratic prosperous society especially compared to the region. Although many look back fondly to the days before occupation; within the green lines in several ways it was a lot worse.

For example, from 1948 1966 Israel’s Arab citizens were under military rule. Government funding and infrastructure for Arab towns while not equal has improved. A study that tracked government per capita funding over 20 years found Arab towns got the second highest funding $628 per capita after the settlements which got $743(periphery towns got $522 and forum 15 cities like Tel Aviv and Haifa got $465). The situation of the Negev Bedouin is probably worst within Israel proper, although better than before. 200,000 Bedouins live in the Negev roughly half live in 7 government townships and the other half in 35 unrecognized villages(since they aren’t recognized they don’t get municipal services like water) and 11 villages that were recognized since 2004. The townships are among the poorest in Israel and were not even connected to the sewage system till 2002. However for over a decade infrastructure like public transportation and healthcare has improved. Another example is a branch of Ben Gurion university opening up in the largest township; Rahat.

Another example is that David Ben Gurion leader of mapai (precursor to Labor) and prime minister from 1948-1953 and 1955-1963 routely spied on Herut(precious to Likud and at that party of opposition). While prime minister Ben Gurion asked support from then opposition leader Menachem to put leftist Uri Avnery( also after he criticized the 1953 Qibya massacre both of his hands were broken in an ambush) under administrative detection. Begin refused. Military censorship was use more in the past to cover up incidents like bus 400 affair during the 1980’s. In 1988 the Supreme Court ruled that there has to be imminent certainty of actual harm to state security for the military to censor an article. Despite until now lacking natural resources like gas and oil in many ways it’s a much better society than Russia(most of Israel’s founders came from Russia or what used to be the Russian empire).

The trend of the right to not believe that Israel can’t do wrong or not look at the other sides perspective is best symbolized by Naftli Bennet’s video potraying a leftist hipster that always apologizes. This stands in sharp contrast to Israel’s founders. The best example of the sharp contrast was Moshe Dayan’s eulogy of Roi Getberg. Getberg was a kibbutzz security officer that was killed by infiltrators during 1956. At the eulogy Dayan said ”Early yesterday morning Roi was murdered. The quiet of the spring morning dazzled him and he did not see those waiting in ambush for him, at the edge of the furrow. Let us not cast the blame on the murderers today. Why should we declare their burning hatred for us? For eight years they have been sitting in the refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we have been transforming the lands and the villages, where they and their fathers dwelt, into our estate. It is not among the Arabs in Gaza, but in our own midst that we must seek Roi's blood. How did we shut our eyes and refuse to look squarely at our fate, and see, in all its brutality, the destiny of our generation? Have we forgotten that this group of young people dwelling at Nahal Oz is bearing the heavy gates of Gaza on its shoulders? Beyond the furrow of the border, a sea of hatred and desire for revenge is swelling, awaiting the day when serenity will dull our path, for the day when we will heed the ambassadors of malevolent hypocrisy who call upon us to lay down our arms. Roi's blood is crying out to us and only to us from his torn body. Although we have sworn a thousandfold that our blood shall not flow in vain, yesterday again we were tempted, we listened, we believed. We will make our reckoning with ourselves today; we are a generation that settles the land and without the steel helmet and the cannon's maw, we will not be able to plant a tree and build a home. Let us not be deterred from seeing the loathing that is inflaming and filling the lives of the hundreds of thousands of Arabs who live around us. Let us not avert our eyes lest our arms weaken. This is the fate of our generation. This is our life's choice - to be prepared and armed, strong and determined, lest the sword be stricken from our fist and our lives cut down. The young Roi who left Tel Aviv to build his home at the gates of Gaza to be a wall for us was blinded by the light in his heart and he did not see the flash of the sword. The yearning for peace deafened his ears and he did not hear the voice of murder waiting in ambush. The gates of Gaza weighed too heavily on his shoulders and overcame him”.

Another example of sharp contrast of Bennet’s apology video was Ehud Barak remark in an interview with Gideon Levy shortly before being elected prime minister in 1999 that” the right age, at some stage I would have entered one of the terror organizations and have fought from there, and later certainly have tried to influence from within the political system.”.

An comparison to this pure Zionism by the right would be being proud and patriotic of America while at the same time not acknowledging dark parts in the past like with African-Americans and native Americans(this comparison applies to other countries like being a proud or patriotic British or French person while at the same not acknowledging it’s dark past in history like colonialism). While Israelis do have a flawed but relatively prosperous democratic (within the green line) society to be proud of, at the same time there is a clearly undemocratic,unequal society that constantly engages in human right violations in the West Bank, something that the right fail to see.
http://wiki.ncac.org/Israeli_Chief_Military_Censor
http://www.timesofisrael.com/settlements-get-higher-share-of-state-funds-study-reveals/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_and_eulogy_of_Roi_Rotberg
http://www.timesofisrael.com/harvard-ucla-to-help-build-campus-in-rahat/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negev_Bedouin
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/11/news/mn-27709
http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/about/1177150070

 

there are Zionists in Israel and abroad that want equality for all Israelis, the two-state solution, and justice/fairness for the Palestinian refugees.

if they could form a voting block with the Arab parties, they could rule the state.

but alas, the Arab parties are unwilling to do that. Maybe this will change.

 

Really interesting Eulogy ............. Thanks.

 

I agree mostly with what you said especially that there are many Zionists including Israelis that support equality, two state solution, and justice for Palestinian refugees. Regarding the Arab parties final polls(to be fair the polls in Israel before election are often wrong an example of that was not predicting Yesh Atud's victory last election) before election tomorrow doesn't give them along with the left a majority. The last time that the left-Arab bloc received majority was in 2006 when they received 69 seats. The most optimist poll is Channel 2 poll that gave Arab-left bloc 56 seats and the right-religious bloc 64 seats. I really don't want to see Netanyahu elected for another term. I don't know how long the situation can last in the West Bank with for the most part quiet since the end of the second intifada and nothing that Abbas can show has been achieved in return showing the occupation ending. The main problem is that Herzog doesn't as many natural partners as Bibi despite his party losing more at the polls. For example in that channel 2 poll for Herzog to form a government he would need Zionist Union(26),Yesh Atud(12)Shas(7),UTJ(6)Kulanu (eight), and than either Meretz(5) or Yisrael Beitun(5) for a narrow government of 64 seats. Yesh Atud and Shas along with UTJ don't want to sit together with Shas saying that they are wiling sit with Yesh Atud only if they stop trying to integrate haredi into the army. Meretz does disagree with Shas on issues like civil marriage, although they have sat in government together before. Yisarel Beitun, while Lieberman and Bibi don't get along I don't see Lieberman joining a left wing government. In that poll Arab party could replace Shas and UTJ since they also have 13 seats, however would be unlikely to do so. Since in that arrangement to form the government the United Arab List would have to sit with Kulanu(something that even if United Arab List agreed(they won't agree to sit with Zionist Union and at the most support it from the bench) to Kulanu probably would not). As mentioned before this is based on pre election polls with Meretz, Yisrael Beitun, and Yachad on the edge of threshold(that would be nice if Yisrael Beituna and Yachad which has an ex Kahanist don't make it but again not expecting that) which also affects both blocs if they aren't in the next Knesset. I hope Netanyahu is not elected again but don't have high hopes that Hezvog will get elected; While not the worst, he has been one of Israel's worst prime ministers, We will find out soon though if he stays.
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Left-wing Zionists and the Arab parties could rule Israel forever, IF they formed a block.

its time for such a block.

it would mean: end to settlement expansion, end to settlement funding, end to racist laws, resumption of peace talks and likely success.

 

I would like that(I disagree with the Islamist and Communist ideology, at the same time the occupation is Israel's biggest problem if not ended will end it as Jewish democratic state) but the problem is that recent elections with exception of 2006 the left-Arab bloc haven't received 61 or more seats necessary to form a government. That would be great if these elections will give left-Arab bloc 61 or more seats, unfortunately I don't expect it. I hope I am proven wrong. What the Israelis should do is implement what former Labor head Amram Mitzna called for in the 2003 election. Negotiate with the PA(starting at Olmert's offer to Abbas the offer that both sides agree a couple months would have an agreement) if those negotiations fail than unilaterally withdraw from most of the West Bank. Again don't expect that to happen but would like to be proven wrong.

 

Only solution, is the forced exile of all Arabs who do not pledge allegiance to the Jewish state of Israel

 

that would lead to genocide and the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Israelis, due to a massive war.

 

Doubt it, the IDF can easily dispose of the Arabs, and I doubt any neighboring Arab country would or could do anything about it.

 

this would lead to massive military retaliation by every Muslim on Earth.

and the deaths of massive numbers of Israelis.

 

Not supported by facts, sorry bud. Last time the combined armies of Egypt and Jordan and Syria could not manage to stop the IDF, and they are in no position today to do any better.

 

add the nuclear arms of Pakistan, and the story has changed.



nevermind the insane acts of terrorism that would happen against Jews around the world, if Israel engaged in such acts of genocide against their Arabs.

 

Pakistan going to Nuclear war with Israel over the faith of Palestinians? Are you serious, debating with you is like taking candy from a baby.

 

Pakistan would of course defend their Muslim brothers against Israeli genocide.

 

Yeah ok buddy, keep thinking that.

 

Your plan besides being morally abhorrent causing a lot of deaths would also end Israel. For one if that happened everyone else in the region which do vastly outnumber Israel would resistance it. If that happened, most nations would cut off support from Israel completely.

 

1. Syria is involved in civil war
2. Egypt is internally divided, and militarily perhaps an equal to Israel but less Nukes
3. Jordan is too small to play a difference.
4.Lebanon is busy being involved in Syria

Who else can and will do anything?

The world might put embargo, but Jewish lobby in US will over turn it pretty quickly. China and Russia will hardly care.

 

How could Israel overturn an embargo?

 

Have the US apply pressure to any Euros who would try such a thing.

 

are you saying the Jews in the USA control the USA?

 

Every time Israel has given up anything to the other side they end up with war or rockets landing in their back yards. Appeasement has not worked one bit and there are those that just want more appeasement. Sort of like, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Some people just don't understand the final goal of the other side is complete annihilation.

 

I am saying the the Jewish lobby in the US has immense resources, and clout. They are a very strong player in DC, much like NRA.

 

Israel never stops taking property, destroying olive trees and pushing Palestinians off the West Bank and Negev.. Do you get it... or don't you?

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You mean JINSA and the ADL? Yes, but don't be too certain that Americans are unaware of Israel's manipulation..

 

Who cares who is aware or unaware, its not like an Embargo of Israel would be in US interests. The Majority of Americans highly dislike the Muslims and the Arabs, who attacked us on 911 and the palestinians who celebrated in the streets.

 

It wasn't Palestinians celebrating .. It was Lebanese celebrating Israel pulling out in May 2000.. I'd seen that film footage over and over again from my hotel room in Riyadh in May 2000.