What is the solution to black communities' problems?

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is the solution to the continued problems of the black community in the USA?

    Reparations for slavery?

    They invest in their own communities?

    Free college?
     
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    I disagree with reparations because they would only serve as a stimulus that mainly benefits white businesses with no long term improvement for blacks. Improving public education including universal pre kindergarten and making college affordable are also good ideas; however the kinds of political reforms needed to address discrimination and economic inequality will only come from a new grassroots movement by blacks to challenge the system.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    there is only one solution

    its not the solution many of them want to hear. its not the solution many of them think they deserve, or will be justice for past suffering.

    the answer is this: they must help themselves. They must abandon the hope of some savior coming to save them, some government program coming to save them. They must save themselves.

    Its that simple.
     
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    The way other ethnic groups do it is by making a micro economy of their own.
     
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    thanks ronstar for that pearl of wisdom. :clapping::cheerleader::worship::winner::thumbsup::woot::hug::banana:
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you're welcome, I'm glad we finally see eye to eye on such an important subject, and I'm glad you accept that black people need to solve their own problems and not wait for others to do it for them.
     
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    More guns, broader self defense laws.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that might make thugs think twice about attacking innocent people.
     
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    The black community's problem is largely the same problem that is facing a growing slice of the white community--the lack of economic opportunities. Blacks as a whole are just more vulnerable than whites on a whole because they are only a generation out of desegregation. It is unrealistic to expect a whole class of people to work themselves out of poverty and into the upper middle-class when the jobs that bridge the two are evaporating. Sure some people can go from growing up in the slum and becoming a doctor or a lawyer regardless of their race, but that is the exception as opposed to the rule.
     
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    the other problem is a cultural practice of relying on government hand-outs, lack of respect for educational achievement, single-parent homes with no fathers, and leaders that demand reparations and more govt. handouts rather than individual achievement, community pooling of resources, & self-reliance.
     
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    More so it would eliminate those thugs that don't think twice.

    You like cool-aid don't you?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    as long as the black community largely focuses on more govt. programs, more govt. hand outs, reparations, and ignores community pooling of resources, self-reliance, two-parent homes, and educational excellence, blacks will remain at the bottom.
     
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    You have to do what you have to do to survive.

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    Tea....
     
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    barely surviving ain't much of a life.

    watching your children getting gunned down in the streets, night after night, aint much of a life.
     
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    We could try blaming everything on white people...oh wait, that's already been tried, my bad.
     
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    blaming white people and waiting for white people to solve their problems, hasn't worked to well.

    what will work? self-reliance, two-person families, respect for education and achievement, pooling of resources.
     
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    Starvation isn't much of a life either.
     
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    I think Black communities should be policed with a different type of justice than surrounding communities (when it is a Black-on-Black incident). Sorry to say, but many young Black youth are just inclined to getting in trouble, that's just a reality. We can recognize this reality, or we can try to apply the same strict justice to them and throw them all in prison for many many years, ruining their lives. This leads to even more fatherless Black households... and the cycle perpetuates. These Black kids are not terrible people... they just steal, do drugs, have lots of sex, want to join a gang... It is still not a contradiction to say they are not terrible people. Rather than placing all the expectation on them to conform to the law, maybe the law needs to conform a little bit to the reality. I really think it's biological, but the subculture that glorifies the thug lifestyle does not help either. And then there's the absent parents...
    If American society was all African, I think we'd be seeing a different approach being used to deal with youth that get in trouble. Almost like some level of recognition that that's just what they are going to do, it's a stage in life for many of them. All this may sound blatantly racist, but ignoring the reality is far more damaging to the Black community. What works for the white or Asian community does not work for the Black community. Applying a cookie cutter approach does not work too well. I hope some of you will give some serious thought to what I have said here.
     
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    so the only choice blacks have is starvation or robbery?

    lol!!!
     
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    The question really should be reworded, what is the solution to the problems caused by blacks?
     
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    self-reliance.

    self-help.

    self-evolution.

    rejecting the "woe-is-me" attitude

    demanding excellence

    two-person families.
     
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    Exactly. Adopting conservative values is the only thing that will improve the lives of those in the black community. It isn't going to happen as long as the left keeps pandering to them and using fear tactics to get votes.
     
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    all immigrant communities in the USA helped themselves, by pooling resources and working together for the common good and prosperity of their community.

    this is what black folks need to do.
     
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    Black people in the past practiced self help, self reliance, and held to certain socially accepted moral values they also had two parent families. None of this while beneficial was enough. There are black single parents and married couples trying to do the right thing and several studies show that religious faith and church attendance is higher among blacks than most whites except Evangelical Protestants. Moreover there are all kinds of black individuals and groups making progress against crime, drugs, fatherlessness, academic underachievement, and poverty, and it would do well for whites especially conservatives to find out more about these efforts. However the problems faced by blacks are ultimately social and structural due to racism and an unfair, exploitive, economy.

    Cultural and behavioral change on some individual or collective level are not enough. It wasn't that way in the past and its not the case now.

    Slavery didn't end because slaves made the best of a bad situation.

    White people didn't abandon Jim Crow in the south or blatant De Facto segregation in the north because they thought blacks were decent and competent members of the community who deserved better treatment.

    We fought through direct citizen action and ultimately through political reforms at the national level for change.
     
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    if it was all just about economics, black poor, white poor, Hispanic poor, Asian poor, would have similar crime rates.

    but they don't, now do they?

    the fact is, a large part of the black community suffers from cultural phenomena that leads to what can be considered nothing short of large-scale sociopathy. Extreme materialism, media/cultural acceptance of violence & lack of empathy for the suffering of fellow human beings, lack of appreciation and even disrespect towards educational achievement, added with fatherless homes, poverty, and unemployment, seems to have led to a sub-cultural of sociopathy. :(
     

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