Corruption and Chaous in the Middle East!

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  1. Jessus

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    Why is it that the Jews, Christians, Muslims, Arabs and Iranians can't live together in the Middle East without all this chaos that was created to benefit one over the other? In the US you see that diversity is becoming more and more welcomed, yet why is forign policy especially in the Middle East is biased? Why the government backs the Corrupt leaders in the Middle East? These kings, leaders and murderous regimes are all corrupt and have been involved in all kinds of crimes. Why instead of fueling hate, the government doesn't help build ties between all parties? Zionists, Saudi's all of them are corrupt and blood thirsty criminals. Why don't they just help build it not destroy it.
     
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    Welcome to the site.

    We hope you enjoy your stay
     
  3. Mr_Truth

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    This answers part of the OP's question:




    Netanyahu Likens Iran To Nazis In Holocaust Remembrance Speech

    Source: Deutsche Welle

    Speaking at the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial on Wednesday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu compared the policies of the Islamic Republic of Iran to Adolf Hitler's Nazi regime that ruled Germany from 1933 until its World War II defeat in 1945.

    "As the Nazis strived to trample civilization and replace it with a 'master race' while destroying the Jewish people, so is Iran striving to take over the region and expand further with a declared goal of destroying the Jewish state," he said.

    Opposition to nuclear agreement

    Netanyahu also took the opportunity to reiterate his opposition to a framework agreement reached between the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council plus Germany (P5+1) with Iran, designed to curb the Islamic Republic's nuclear program so that it will not be able to use it for military purposes.

    "Instead of demanding Iran significantly dismantle its nuclear capabilities and conditioning lifting sanctions on it ending its aggressions, the world powers are retreating, leaving Iran with nuclear capabilities and even allowing it to expand them later on regardless to its actions in the Middle East and around the world," he said.

    Read more: http://www.dw.de/netanyahu-likens-iran-to-nazis-in-holocaust-remembrance-speech/a-18386607




    Netanyahu is a racist and a hater who promotes war in order to entrench his power over Israel and to get money from the USA.
     
  4. HBendor

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    Netanyahu is the best thing that happened to Israel since the invention of sliced bread!!!
     
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    His hate and imperialism reflect upon Israel and prove that it is an imperialist state.
     
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    I disagree!!! Come visit and evaluate here!
     
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    Should we try to convince them to "harass a Judge" first?
     
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    Simple, for the most part the U.S. like stability and the Kings and what have you provide that. Look at what has happened in Libya and Syria. In Libya we took down a strong man and chaos reigns and we tried to take out Assad in Syria and that is one complete mess.

    We would have been better served to let Qaddafi rule Libya and let Assad use his military to snuff out the rebellion. Neither were friends or allies, but they did provide stability. The Kings and royal families of Saudi, Jordan, and the rest also provide stability and are allies. We would have been better off and the middle east as a whole if we let Saddam remain in charge. But Saddam, Assad and Qaddafi were not allies.

    I think a lot of what is going on in the middle east is of our own making. Sometimes it is better to just let the strongmen rule.
     
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    No thanks - I've seen enough of Netanyahu's hate as well as that of Israel's government over the years.

    Yes, I realize that there are a great many Israelis who want peace such as Peace Now and others who oppose Zionism on biblical grounds. My wish is that their views may prevail so that all the violence and hatred may be ended once and for all.
     
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    they need to respect a secular government, giving any one religion power causes friction..... theocracies are evil
     
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    You are proselytizing to the wrong group.
    Concentrate on what goes on in the Arab world... i.e. Libya, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Yemen and Saudi Arabia for starters...

    Speaking of Peace now and other organizations of the same vein.
    Could you direct me (for peace sake) to other Peace organization operating in the 22 Arab countries?

    Well they are non existent, ergo, not ready for 'rapprochement' therefore you are pointing the finger of indignation towards the Jews...

    Well I suggest that the minority Arabs in Israel 19 - 20% pick up and leave the Jewish state for the Muslim Paradise in the 22 Arab countries if they feel uncomfortable in my country.
     
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    proselytizing


    I'll leave that up to the television evangelists. ;)


    As for Peace Now, Tikkun, and other Jewish groups who work for peace and reconciliation, people may access their websites if they wish to exchange ideas with them so that foreign offices are not necessary.

    Go to another country? Well, you know what they say: there's no place like home.
     
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    You have no home! Abbas was elected for four years, he is drawing a salary the past 9 years, Gaza is a terrorist enclave... Arabs are squatters... there will never be a Palestinian State in the heart of the Jewish Patrimony take that to the bank or turn your eyes towards the 77% of the Mandate called today Jordan!

    Read on...
    Palestinian reconciliation hits rock bottom
    April 22, 2015 5:52 P.M. (Updated: April 22, 2015 5:52 P.M.)
    http://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=765028

    GAZA CITY (AFP) -- A year after rival political parties Hamas and Fatah
    agreed to end their bitter divisions, the unity deal they signed appears to
    be on the brink of collapse.

    This week, a ministerial delegation from the Ramallah-based consensus
    government headed to the Gaza Strip, the stronghold of Hamas, for what was
    to be a week-long visit focused on resolving a long-running dispute over
    employees.

    But they stayed only one day, ordered home by Prime Minister Rami Hamdallah
    as the scope of the row became clear.

    Hamas has ruled Gaza since 2007 when it expelled forces loyal to President
    Mahmoud Abbas' West Bank-based Fatah from the tiny coastal enclave.

    The rival factions agreed to bury the hatchet on April 23, 2014 thanks to a
    surprise reconciliation agreement which led to the creation of a national
    unity government.

    The aim was to bring governance of the Palestinian territories under one
    authority, a cabinet of independent technocrats acceptable to both sides
    which would work to hold elections as quickly as possible.

    But a year on, little has changed -- and the reconciliation pact is showing
    signs of severe strain.

    "Nothing has changed on the ground. The reconciliation has stalled and we
    are heading for an even greater division," said Mukhaimer Abu Saada, a
    Gaza-based political scientist.

    Sworn in last June, the so-called national consensus government has rarely
    set foot in Gaza where Hamas remains the de facto power, despite formally
    standing down.

    'Failure' in Gaza

    And the two movements have repeatedly accused each other of blocking moves
    to facilitate the reconstruction of Gaza, which was devastated by a 50-day
    war with Israel last year.

    The promised elections, which were to have taken place before the end of
    2014, have not materialized and officials admit the ballot is unlikely to
    happen any time soon.

    The extent of the dispute was highlighted on Monday when a group of eight
    ministers and around 30 senior officials hurriedly left Gaza after admitting
    the "failure" of their mission.

    Cabinet secretary Ali Abu Diak said there had been no talks, laying the
    blame squarely at the feet of Hamas, which he accused of "repeatedly
    throwing a spanner in the works".

    "It's not the government's job to negotiate: it is the government of all the
    people and Hamas does not respect either the government or the law," he
    said.

    Since last year's agreement, Hamas has demanded the government cover the
    salaries of its 50,000 employees who have been on the books since Hamas took
    power.

    They took over from 70,000 employees of the Palestinian Authority who were
    forced out of their positions but have still been paid their salaries.

    Since the deal, the Hamas employees have not received wages, except for a
    one-off payment to around half of them in October.

    The consensus government has pledged to return the 70,000 former PA
    employees to their positions, and the delegation which went to Gaza had
    aimed to register them all.

    It has said Hamas workers would be hired only "according to need" in a move
    denounced by the Islamist movement as "discrimination".

    An intractable dispute

    "Without a solution for these employees, there will be no remedy or progress
    in the reconciliation," said Abu Saada, the political scientist.

    During their brief visit to Gaza, the delegation members did not leave their
    hotel, with Hamas saying it was "by choice."

    But Mahmud al-Zaq, a member of the PLO, said it was due to the "thuggish"
    and "terrorist" methods of Hamas.

    For the PA the biggest problem is the question of up to 30,000 armed Hamas
    employees who work for its security services whom it does not want to pay.

    Constrained by various international agreements, the PA says it is unable to
    send money to Gaza to pay them because Hamas is blacklisted as a "terrorist"
    group by Israel, the United States and the European Union.

    This week, Hamas employees were again demonstrating in Gaza over plans to
    replace them.

    "Discriminating against them is hindering the reconciliation," warned Daud
    Shihab, spokesman for Islamic Jihad, the second force in Gaza.
    ________________________________________
    IMRA - Independent Media Review and Analysis
     
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    No home?


    The ideal solution is the ONE STATE solution.

    This way the Muslim population would be the majority within a few years and there will be true democracy and peace in Israel. As a Republican sympathizer and one who believes in democracy you should readily approve of that.
     
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    In addition to all the blabber it is obvious now that you know nothing of Israel's demography... someone has made researches on this matter and found out that what you just projecting is (kalam Fadi = palaver)

    More demographic data proving the “demographic time bomb” is a dud
    ~Caroline Glick

    As I explain in The Israeli Solution, far from being an existential threat to Israel, demography is one of the Jewish state’s greatest strengths. Since the book was released last month, its most severe critics discount the demographic data that I present claiming that for Israel to stake its future on accurate data is too risky, better to trust the falsified numbers parroted threateningly by the Obama administration and its mouthpiece in the Israeli government, Justice Minister Tzipi Livni that claim Muslims are about to overrun Jews west of the Jordan River.


    Here’s a recent interview that Dr. Guy Bechor, an Israeli Middle East scholar gave to Israel TV Channel 2 about the real demographic picture. As readers of my book will notice, the news just keeps improving.


    Video[/COLOR][/B] (English transliteration)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra879tN9pAA#t=20

    Published on Apr 18, 2014
    Dr. Guy Bechor discusses the actual demographic balance between Israel and the Palestinians on Israel TV Channel 2's morning show. His data are aligned with those set out in Caroline Glick's book: The Israeli Solution: A One-State Plan for Peace in The Middle East and point to the same policy conclusions
     
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    Actually. I've been calling for a one state solution since 1967 - if we had had this at that time, by now the majority would be Muslim. Wouldn't that be great for democracy?

    You do believe in democracy, right?```
     
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    Sabeel is all about reconciliation, but the Likkud simply hates them.....
     

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