Up to 400K Children Born To Illegal Immigrants in U.S. Annually, One In 10 Births

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In my opinion this is insane since we do not have the jobs, schools, and infrastructure to support the population expansion of who will essentially be uneducated and poor children/families. With possibly a few exceptions, most of these kids will not amount to much and will cost us billions in Welfare, medical, court and prison costs, and that's not counting the damage done by the crimes, murders, and rapes.

    This needs to change and fast.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...-immigrants-in-u-s-annually-one-in-10-births/
     
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    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good Lord! No wonder they're shooting up the population percentage... Thanks to illegal immigration, they're now about 27% of the population.
     
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    It's sad because this can not be sustained and even liberals/progressives will probably tell you that.

    The population of this country can't continue to increase like it currently is. There's an optimal level, nobody can say for sure what exactly it is, but we can say for sure that we'll soar past it pretty quickly at this rate.

    So my question to the progressive/liberals is a simple one....what happens when it's clear that we have too many people? What happens when it becomes clear that we have to shut down the border for survival purposes? Will you give in, admit you're wrong and allow the necessary measures to be taken? Or will you stubbornly stick to your guns and get in the way of your own country's well being?

    Bottom line, this can't continue and the only question that remains is whether or not the progressives/liberals will realize what the rest of us realized a long time ago in time to do anything about it.
     
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    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Only if master says so. If someone else says it, they'll be a racist.
     
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    I note the expected knee-jerk reactions to increasing the number of citizens in the country, but did anybody notice this:

    Current policy? Like, one of those Obama executive orders? HA! Not even close. It's been settled law since the Wong Kim Ark case in 1898. "Policy" my patoot.
     
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    Well, the initial liberal response (Al Gore when he was running) was to spend more effort and money to get Central American and Mexican economies on a more diverse and sustainable path, thus reducing the need for people to come to the States to make a living.

    The Conservative response seems to have been, "Well, that makes sense - but we have to bomb Iraq first ...".

    If illegal immigrants had a stable government and reasonable job market, they wouldn't be paying Coyotes to bring them to the US.
     
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    90% of population growth in California and 70% of population growth in the nation during the 1990's was from immigration and their offspring.
     
  8. Brewskier

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    They'll do whatever they have to in order to stay in power, including setting aside typical progressive concerns such as the environment, overpopulation, etc.
     
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    I thought progressives didn't like the concept of nation building?

    Lots of countries need to get their act together. Why is that our problem? We can't afford to be the world's dumping ground for the most needy and uneducated. Not if we wish to remain a 1st world country, that is.

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    Think of how much smaller our carbon footprint would be without all those people.
     
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    This is why citizenship should be inherited from one's parents.
     
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    The liberal elite know everything that liberals have currently become is toxic to the long term survival and prosperity to the country, but they're fully and completely insulated from the destruction so long as they remain in power.

    The ignorant clueless future-less voting masses are the only ones who truly believe the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) their masters feed them.
     
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    Translation: "Now that I've got my piece of the pie, the rest of you can go (*)(*)(*)(*) yourself."

    Imagine if this was done 100 years ago; the USA would have ended up being a second-rate nation.
     
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    There's a reason that you're not a translator.
     
  14. Steve N

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    Do we owe the illegals something? Are they entitled to be here?
     
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    Times change. Its not 100 years ago. You can leave your buggy whip behind and join the present.
     
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    If we don't change things we will end up a second rate nation
     
  17. Steve N

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    That's the thing about libs...talk about civil rights and they say it's not 100 years ago. Talk about immigration and they long for it to be 100 years ago.
     
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    Ok, I wasn't referring to 15 years ago. I'm talking about now and the future.

    My point and question still remains. We can't sustain this forever, so when do liberals say enough is enough? When does the light bulb go off and they realize 'hey, we can't support all the people coming in, maybe we should put a stop to it'. Or maybe the question should be, how bad does it have to get before liberals/progressives will take action to stop illegal immigration instead of embrace it?
     
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    Do you actually have something to add to the discussion?

    It is a fact that we can't sustain the influx of illegal immigrants, this isn't arguable as the united states isn't growing in size nor is it magically producing resources out of thin air.

    So what's your suggestion? Wait until things get so bad here that illegals realize they have it better where they came from and then they all want to go back?

    Do you not agree that at some point in time illegal immigration has to stop? Or do you really believe it can go on forever?
     
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    Once there is enough of them voting Democrat that Democrats never lose another election, then maybe their environmental concerns will override their desire for open borders.
     
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    How is it insane? Do you want them to be forced to have abortions so that children are not born? What do you think the populatin growth rate would be if these children are not born? You want to be like Italy?

    Not amounting to anyitng? Maybe you shold talk to George P Bush whose grandfather was an illegal. That means one of his parents was the son or daughter of an illegal. And yet they did quite well, didn't they?
     
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    Wong Kim Ark's case would say no to that idea.
     
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    California will be like Mexico soon enough.

    Mexico is nice, kinda.
     
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    California, not to mention Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas, have a shared history wand culture with Mexico. Yet, the white nationalists on this thread do not seem to understand that connection.
     
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    While this article goes on to say that it is not as catastrophic as what is happening in Europe most notably because in the US
    Do yourselves a favour, and google birthrate and US, and you will see that everywhere from Forbes to the WSJ it will note that it is important that the rate go up and not down.

    Obviously, I am not arguing that it is a great thing to have so many illegals in the US, but that their children are not a major problem, and some would argue that it is beneficial because of our negative growth without them.
    On a side note, it is duly noted that most of you beleive that US citizens born into poverty will be a weight on society, a burden on infrastructure, and likely fall into criminal ways. Nice to see you guys finally admit that not every American has an equal chance of success, and that being born into poverty is an incredible disatvantage to overcome.
     

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