'Indiscriminate' Killing in Gaza Was Top-Down War Plan, say Israeli Veterans

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  1. Silver Surfer

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    You've got to 'admire' Israelis ability to continually get away with their crimes against humanity and war crimes. Others are held accountable for lesser offences.


    'Indiscriminate' Killing in Gaza Was Top-Down War Plan, say Israeli Veterans

    Over 60 officers and soldiers who took part in 'Operation Protective Edge' anonymously testify about acts they committed or witnessed

    by Sarah Lazare, staff writer

    http://www.commondreams.org/news/20...za-was-top-down-war-plan-say-israeli-veterans

     
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    And America will continue to support and subsidize this smug parasite because it is America's 'ally'. Doesn't say much about America, does it? In before the, 'but the rockets...', whining begins.
     
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    I suppose you think the trigger of the Israeli military response - the constant barrage of rockets from Gaza into Israel - were not "indiscriminate?" Come on, now, Hamas just recently shot more rockets into Israel. They can only keep that up for so long - then Israel will retaliate again. You'd think the gazans would learn, but they don't seem to. They keep making the same stupid moves over and over and over.

    Israel should be commended for not turning that entire strip into glass.
     
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    I read this OP headline

    'Indiscriminate' Killing in Gaza Was Top-Down War Plan, say Israeli Veterans

    and I'm (*)(*)(*)(*)ing incredulous - how could one of the best armies in the world, given the orders of being indiscriminate, only managed to kill two thousand Gazans, running over 5,000 bombing sorties, in the World's most target rich environment? What, these Gazans like cats, have 9 lives each? :wall:
     
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    Get some perspective. Israelis openly talk about their crimes and admit their own crimes.


    Israeli soldiers talk about the occupied territories

    Database

    To increase public accessibility to the information we gather, we have developed this Internet database, which allows for keyword searches of testimonies from our archives. The database contains all testimonies that have been verified by our researchers to date, and it continues to be updated daily.

    http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/testimonies/database
     
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    Yes, that's what people in democracies do, either telling the truth, believes, or lies. In Gaza? They're being dragged behind motorcycles thru the streets, just for opening their mouthes.
     
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    As opposed to thousands of indiscriminate rockets that rained down on Israel that killed less than a handful of Israeli's you mean?
     
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    The rockets only killed a handful of Israelis because Israel actually tries to protect its people. Hamas tries to get as many Palestinians killed as they possibly can.
     
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    Yeah, sure. Where in the Hasbara manual did you read that?
     
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    No, I mean what I say. The best army in the world in the world's richest target environment manages to kill less 2,000 people with 5,000 air sorties. How many bombs are there per sortie, let's say three? (*)(*)(*)(*)ing 15,000 bombs to kill less than 2,000 Gazans, in world's richest target environment. I mean, you spit toward Gaza, and you're going to hit a Gazan.

    That's indiscriminate! :wall:
     
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    Please show me one instance of Hamas trying to protect its people.

    Hamas wants to destroy Israel and it is willing to sacrifice its own people to make that happen.
     
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    Yep, here's a part of that manual:

    [video=youtube;GWQQFJXMrg4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWQQFJXMrg4[/video]
     
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    It's difficult to protect people in one of the most high density population centres in the world in which the people concerned were under almost constant bombardment from one of the most high-tech military regimes in the world.

    Hamas doesn't want to destroy Israel. This is a myth.
     
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    I guess Hamas is lying about itself in its own charter.
     
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    I am not ready to speak to this yet. However so far this thread suffers from not being able to have the honest discussion that is so desperately needed in that part of the world.
     
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    You gotta expect that more than a few Israeli troops refused to shoot at civilians. But, alas, there were those that did. Nice try.
     
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    Sure. The N. Vietnamese did the same thing. Both Uncle Ho and Hamas are/were happy with a 10/1 loss ratio. It's a time-honored tactic when you are out-gunned.
     
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    The Hamas Charter is irrelevant in 2015. However, the Likud Charter isn't.
     
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    How so?
     
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    5,000 bombing sorties, in the World's most target rich environment, managed to kill less than 2,000 people. That should not be possible, do you agree? Must be a vicious Zionist lie.

    Wait... :wall:
     
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    Because the Charter is not representative of Hamas in its current form. There are more contemporary Hamas documents, such as their 2006 election manifesto, which describes Hamas’s broader vision for Palestinian society and which author Khaled Hroub states, “could be said that the document was designed to carry out exactly the kinds of reform that had been demanded by Western governments and financial institutions.”

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    Zat is not English.Try again.
     
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