Black Man vs White Man Carrying AR-15 Legally

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  1. Mr_Truth

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    [video=youtube;BKGZnB41_e4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKGZnB41_e4[/video]



    Many right wingers still insist that we live in a post racial society. In fact, many insist that minorities have some kind of "advantage" in life over whites. But those who think realistically know there is no truth to that type of mythology as the USA remains a racially divided society which practices double standards. Here are two people (one black, the other white) and we see how police treat them differently even though they are doing nothing illegal while exercising their lawful constitutional rights.


    If there are any principled conservatives here, let's see you voice your objection to the criminal actions committed by these white police.
     
  2. Esau

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    white tribalism.
     
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    Right Wingers insist? Really? Uh, if not mistaken, Mr. Obama has declared America is less racially divided than ever recently.

    That white guy in the stripe shirt at the beginning of the video scares me. Something about him.

    As far as the two scenarios....could it be that a far greater amount of violence in society is perpetrated by black men?
    Just saying.

    Perhaps if the ignorant, violent black community would get their (*)(*)(*)(*) together, pull themselves out of welfare mentality
    and make the best of their lives rather than taking the easy way out, society would see them differently?

    Notice I specifically mentioned a PARTICULAR segment of the black population.
    Most black people I know are really good people. Period.
    Many of them are also just as disgusted as I am with the thugs and their mentality.
     
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    someone said the other day there is no evidence of systemic racism. Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    While I do no like how the black man was treated differently, you're right. The thug culture has now become synonymous with black culture and cops act accordingly.
     
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    Now to be fair, we don't know if this is actually due to race. What if he just happened to look like a suspect? That would be reason enough to do that. On other hand, is this surprising anyone?
     
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    open carry is legal but scares cops, concealed carry is illegal and doesn't scare cops... what is wrong with that picture

    I think concealed carry is the way all guns should be carried in public, you have a gun out, it scares people


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    yes, the war on drugs has made cops and citizens behave more aggressively
     
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    So you agree that the cops are acting like they are racists.
     
  10. Lord of Planar

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    Profiling by race does not mean racism, though it is very disturbing since there is no probable cause.
     
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    I just realized something.

    These videos are in two different states. They claim open carry is legal in the state the black guy is in, but what are the laws pertaining to it? Are they really the same as in Oregon?
     
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    Not enough information. OP is a full-blown propagands stunt intended to sway the viewers to his direction.
     
  13. Lord of Planar

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    I agree.

    The first example was Albany Oregon... if I recall correctly. The second was not in Oregon, and I couldn't quite make out the county of the police car to look up the differences in open carry laws.

    The writeup in YouTube says "same laws" but I seriously doubt that.

    Convenient how they pick two different states, and likely (intentionally) invalidate the whole exercise.
     
  14. RiseAgainst

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    What if they had a positive ID on the black man and he is a known felon? No guns period.

    There are just too many variables to consider and the information for such cant be extracted out of a short youtube video like the one provided in the OP.
     
  15. Lord of Planar

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    Agreed.

    Besides, open carry laws are newer in some states than others as well.
     
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    I thought it was a constitutional right that we could all open carry
     
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    It should be, but somehow it isn't so.
     
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    maybe if you didnt watch fox news and mtv all day you would have a balanced opinion of what black culture is. you can make manifest anything you want if you indoctrinate yourself correctly, as you have done.
     
  19. Lord of Planar

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    I haven't seen much in real life to show the stereotype is wrong. Have you?
     
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    yes. like i say, you can choose to take any indoctrination that fits your ideology.
     
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    No surprise that so many of the pro gun anti-government right wingers on this forum failed to condemn the criminal actions of the cops. Open carry is just that - open carry so that it does not matter what state it takes place in.

    Furthermore, the Constitution has an equal protection clause that says everyone is to be treated alike under all circumstances.


    Therefore, if the forum right wingers have any real principle they would condemn these cops, call for their arrest and prosecution, and demand that the innocent victims be compensated by those criminal cops. Failure to do so affirms that these right wingers have an anti-American and anti-Constitution agenda and are political hypocrites.
     
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    I think open carry is the right way myself. We are opposite on that thought. Once people get used to seeing it daily, the fear subsides.

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    We don't know if they responded out of racism or not.

    The first example was in Oregon where open carry has been legal forever. The second example...

    Again, does anyone know what state that is in?

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    I agree.

    However, if it was actually an open carry environment, the the cop was in error. Still doesn't mean it was race based either. It is easy to come to that conclusion, but we really don't know for fact.

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    Maybe that's because we have a better sense of common sense...

    Without all the facts, a condemnation is premature.

    How about telling us what state that incident came out of please? What are the actual laws in that state?

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    Are you blind to the varying levels of participation, by race, in gangs and other illegal activities?
     
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    Many right wingers still insist that we live in a post racial society?

    LOL, are you kidding? Where are these "Right Wingers" that claim we live in a post racial society? Give us some examples.

    Instead of seeking principled conservatives, you should first re-evaluate your own principles and stop trying to blame "right wingers" for everything.
     
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    got any statistics to back up your opinion?
     
  25. Lord of Planar

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    Here's one:

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    http://www.nationalgangcenter.gov/survey-analysis/demographics

    about 35% of the gang members are black, but are only 12.6% of the population. About 10% are white and make up 72.3% of the population. This makes a black, to be statistically about 20 times more likely to be a gang member than a white, per capita.
     

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