Labour - they lost due to their weak stance on EU immigration to UK?

I liked Miliband, but he was too soft on legal immigration from within EU, hence 4 million votes for UKIP, enough to let the Tories win (plus a few other factors of course)

so , surely it's about time for Labour to win back these voters and ditch the metro elite stuff, and follow the Blue Labour path?

 

The "blue labour" path= the one of lie & decent.

 

why do you say that? Blue Labour seems the answer to me, what's wrong with it?

 

Labour lost due to the fear of an SNP-Labour coalition, UKIP's 4 million votes were always going to be around that figure, in fact I believe they would have got more votes if the people had not been so scared of an SNP-Labour "love in".

 

Because Labour should not be Blue. They should be red. Any colour other than Red is a lie.

The worst possible outcome of electing a blue Labour Government is to allow Red policies to be introduced into the UK.


Since the 1980's Thatcher revolution, it has changed Labour into a Party of liars, prepared to display themselves as blue simply in order to get elected & not based upon any real political thinking. If Red policies are no longer acceptable to the UK electorate, then the red party should just die & not pretend to be blue.


The only policy a blue labour Government has is to expand public sector work force, in a hope that these middle class public sector worker vote for them, I an attempt that the Public sector wage tap is not turned off.

 

Blue Labour is ready to ditch in-work benefits, afaik, ie: get rid of the socialist tax credit that subsidises companies, and I'm sure you would agree with that?

 

I would agree if Labour ditched their entire socialist agenda. I just don't believe their manifesto lies. If Tony Benn had been successful in altering the Labour Party rules, to force them to implement the election manifesto promises & if the Tony Blair decade had never happened. I might be willing to accept Labour promises.

But they are the flip-flop party say one thing to get votes & implement something quite different in power.

As much as I would like to see the Cameron Tory Government destroyed in the hope that a true Conservative political party immerge from their ashes. I think Labour are lost for ever. And pretending to be "blue labour" just prolongs their decline & ultimate destruction.