British MP called to suspend any financial aid to the PA>>MOD WARNING<<

MOD WARNING!!

In the past five years Britain gave to the PA financial aid worth 130 million pounds, while in the making 84 million pounds were used to help it fund annual wage bill for convicted terrorists locked up in Israel.

As it was anounced last year, the PA claimed to have stopped the controversial payments but was later discovered to be channelling the cash through another political group. According to this latest discovery, the British MP called the government to suspend this financial aid to the PA until they will stop these payments.

Following the NP's announcement, Tory MPs Guto Bebb, James Morris and Andrew Percy said in a joint statement that the PA should be condemned for decieving donor countries that it ended using financial aid to find annual wages of terrorists:

Source: http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...dal-UK-money-convicted-Palestinian-terrorists

 

they should also suspend all help to Israel, as they have a terrorist government

 

Israel is fighting terror.
The US never accepted terror activity from Al-Qeada. Does America is terrorist state too?
Norway is also not accepting terror and they are activiting against radical Muslims. Does Norway is terrorist state too?
France is also not accepting terror and activing acording to that. Does France is terrorist state as well?
UK calls to suspend financial aid to PA, becuase it is trasnfered to terrorists. Does UK is a terrorist state as well?
Australiais not accepting terror also and will start to cencel citizenship from terror activists. Does Australia is also terrorist sate?
Norway is not accepting terror and criminal activities from Muslims. Does Norway is terrorist state too?
Belguim is also not accepting terror and acting against it. Does Belguim is terrorist state too?
The Netherlands also not accepting terror and acting against it. Does the Netherlands is a terrorist state as well?

and so on.

 

Israel has committed acts of terror against innocent people in Palestine.

murdering fishermen.

using human shields.

stealing private land.

destroying crops and homes.

if the PA is to face sanctions, so should israel.

 

What planet are you on? The U.S is the biggest sponsor of terrorism.

35 Countries Where the U.S. Has Supported Fascists, Drug Lords and Terrorists

Here's a handy A to Z guide to U.S.-backed international crime.

http://www.alternet.org/world/35-countries-where-us-has-supported-fascists-druglords-and-terrorists

Anyway the United Kingdom should stop wasting money on others and rebuild the country. Invest into our own infrastructure and failing economy. Affordable housing must be the priority.

 

Israel doesnt using humen shields. You are confusing with Hamas.
Israel is respecting the laws in the West Bank.

The US never accepted terror activity from Al-Qeada. Does America is terrorist state too?
Norway is also not accepting terror and they are activiting against radical Muslims. Does Norway is terrorist state too?
France is also not accepting terror and activing acording to that. Does France is terrorist state as well?
UK calls to suspend financial aid to PA, becuase it is trasnfered to terrorists. Does UK is a terrorist state as well?
Australiais not accepting terror also and will start to cencel citizenship from terror activists. Does Australia is also terrorist sate?
Norway is not accepting terror and criminal activities from Muslims. Does Norway is terrorist state too?
Belguim is also not accepting terror and acting against it. Does Belguim is terrorist state too?
The Netherlands also not accepting terror and acting against it. Does the Netherlands is a terrorist state as well?

and so on.

 

And with all that, the US (with the Uk) went to war against Al-Qeada in response to 9/11 and killed alot of innocent people among them are children.
And of course with that, it doesnt just the fact that the US trained ISIS, armed Al-Qeada and all sort of things. And if we will follow what you provided here, then the US needs to face senctions.

 

Israel is fighting terror? I have only one thing to say to you on the subject of terrorism; nakba. But of course you won't read about that in Israeli history books because your government prefers to keep your children ignorant of Israeli war crimes and terrorism.

 

Israel doesn't use human shields? Do you think we're stupid?
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014...-used-human-shields-1200-times-2006-2011.html
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.530993
Israel respects no laws. It makes them up.

 

"Nakba"? I know about it, dont underestimate me!

Time Magazine, May 3, 1948, page 25:

General John Glubb "Pasha," The London Daily Mail, August 12, 1948:

Emile Ghoury, secretary of the Palestinian Arab Higher Committee, in an interview with the Beirut Telegraph September 6, 1948. (same appeared in The London Telegraph, August 1948 ):

A book by Barry Shaw he qouted Near East Arabic broadcasting station, Cyprus, April 3, 1949:

Haifa district HQ of the British Police, April 26, 1949:

The Beirut Muslim Weekly "Kul-Shay", August 19, 1949:

Khaled Al Azam, former Syrian prime minister, wrote in his book:

Source: https://books.google.co.il/books?id=...025:&f=false

We should not forget as well, that if we will going through the facts of the UN, then we will see that according to Resolution 429 of the UN (which this resolution talks about "who is a refugee"), a refugee could be considered as such, as long he would not acquired a new nationality and not voluntary re-established outside the country he left (those two options from many more when a refugee cant be considered as one).

Which of course, after the Arabs left Israel to, for example, Jordan, Jordan has acquired those Arabs Jordanian nationality (not all). According to that historical fact, many Arabs that left in 1948, has no reason of calling themselves "refugees", because if so, then it will contradict Resolution 429 of the UN.
Also lets not forget that the status of "refugee" doesnt inherited, because of course, the descendents of those Arabs that left Israel in 1947 and 1948, borned in other country, which by that fact, they acquired a new nationality because they borned in that country.

So, if we will follow the facts, the number of the refugees are only geting small every year, and not getting bigger and of course, the number of the "refugees" cant be higher then what left.

Source: http://daccess-dds-ny.un.org/doc/RES...df?OpenElement

In one of the articles in yor link says:

Which means that in the IDF it is porbbidan to do such acts.
You gave old and irrelevent information about the current IDF policy (from 2002 many things have changed in the army). And if anyone (=soldiers) ignored the military laws, the get punished, which happened

ALSO that many of the articles you provided, I cant see them, they dont open.

 

I see two kinds of idiots on this thread. First the idiot that thinks Israel is clean and wears a white hat, and the other idiot thinks the Palestinians are clean and wear white hats.

The only thing that stands a chance of solving the problems is two states. But the conservatives in Israel do not want this, nor do the conservatives amongst the Palestinians. So, the liberals will have to do this, if they ever get the chance.

The truth might be, that you will never find enough liberals amongst the Palestinians to ever agree to a two state solution. That may be the greatest problem here. For the Palestinians are conditioning their youth to hate jews, to kill them, to never accept them. So new generations are being conditioned to never accept peace, and to live only for death and destruction. So good luck with a two state solution.

 

I have planty of criticism over Israel. When Israel should be critisized then I'm critisizing it.

The Arabs can achieve "two states solution". Let's not forget that there is in the West Bank Arab Autonomy, and according to that, the Arabs can acheive a state with a voting in the UN, but of course, if such thing will happen, the US will veto it.

 

Israel used human shields in the last Gaza war.

and no, Israel doesn't respect the laws of the West Bank, as it is under international law since it is Occupied Territory.

and even it was under Jordanian Law, Israel has changed the land registration laws from the way the Jordanians enforced it.

so Israel should face sanctions.

 

Israel is respecting the laws in the West Bank and I showed that to you numerous of times.
Under international law the West Bank is not occupied.

 

Israel changed the existing Jordanian land registration laws.

This is a FACT, that you shouldn't deny.

And according to the experts of international law, the West Bank is under Israeli Occupation.

 

Just so you know...

This isnt how most people see it and you are hurting your cause by embellishing so much.

Most agree that there are things that need to be looked at with regard to their actions. But if I read your post it screams anti Israel bigotry. You guys need to calm down or else your cause will never be taken seriously by enough people to matter.

Your cause is hurt even more by the actual terrorists in the region. To try and compare the two is simply ridiculous and you lose more and more people to your ideology by doing so.

Just a heads up

 

This issue is silly because the hardliners like Ronstar dont actually want to solve the problem. The guy a few posts up who talked about both sides thinking they wear a "white hat" is completely correct.

They find one guy somewhere who broke the law and extrapolate it until they believe its "the whole evil country"

Likewise the hard line Israelis think every single person in Gaza is a terrorist.

It will never get solved until those two groups of people are solved.

 

All the state lands in the West Bank after 1967 were the state lands which Jordan was incharge of untl 1967.
As the years past by, state lands got bigger because of the law that says that every piece of private land that it's owner doesnt come back to it for 3 years, the land wil become state land. Plus you have also all the Jewish private lands that are still exist in the West Bank, and their status (of being Jewish lands) been kept in the Jordanian occupation and didnt became state lands because of the Jordanian Trading with the Enemy Ordinance, 1939 and the Hague Convention 1907.

Moreover, according to article 78 of the Ottoman Land Code , a farmer who cultivated miri land for 10 years without objection by the state acquires ownership rights in it.
Which means that if Israel object when a farmer cultivate miri land in that 10 years period, then the state (= Israel) acquires ownership rights on it.

We already talked about it, in this thread- http://www.politicalforum.com/middle-east/388015-israel-violation-4th-geneva-conventions.html

According to the international law itself (article 80 of the UN Charter), the West Bank is not occupied.

 

the ICJ, UNSC, and Israeli Supreme Court say you are wrong.

I trust them more than I trust you.

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then why did Israel change how much of a plot of land has to be cultivated, in order to be registered, hmmm?????

 

Prof. Rostow was part of the UNSC when he drafted resolution 242, and still you refer him as "talking nonsense". You are contradicting yourself
The ICJ has to respect the UN Charter (Article 80), which means that they are been contradictd by Article 80 of the UN Charter. Ot maybe are you saying that the ICJ needs to ignore the UN Charter?
I guess you mean the case from 1979, right? Because in that case (of Elon Moreh) the Israeli Supreme Court has never said in that ruling that the West Bank is "occupied". I already showed you that but I guess you prefer to ignore it.

As I said:

As I already showed you many times, Israel is respecting the laws in the West Bank.

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The Arabs have Autonomy in the West Bank, if they want a state, they can go to the UN and vote for it. The problem here is that if such voting will happen then the US will veto it. As she already done.

 

this is 100% false, and nothing more than Neo-Zionist propaganda

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The Israeli Supreme Court said that the West Bank is under Israeli Occupation.

 

So the Jordanian and the Ottoman laws are propoganda?

The ruling of 1979 wasnt saying that. I already showed you that.

 

haha!!!! Israel stopped following the Jordanian land registration laws in 1968.

 

Israel is respecting the laws in the West Bank, as I already showed you.

 

I can prove to you that Israel has changed the land registration laws, from where they were under Jordan.

I can prove it, but you will ignore it, because it goes against your Neo-Zionist agenda.