The Human Cost of illegal immigration.........

Discussion in 'Immigration' started by El Cid, Jun 9, 2015.

  1. El Cid

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    I guess it's "racist" to be concerned about innocent Americans.
    It's easy to see why immigration advocates want stories like this suppressed.
    These criminals are of the age group Obama keeps importing from Central America. And the GOP does nothing at all.


    "Three MS-13 street-gang members from El Salvador are being held without bail on charges they forced a 16-year-old New York girl into the woods near a golf course, and two of them raped her while the third kept watch.

    “This is one of the most brutal, heinous crimes that I have seen in a long, long time,” Suffolk County District Attorney Thomas Spota said at a news conference, according to New York’s WNBC-TV. “This poor young woman is so lucky that, quite frankly, that she is alive. These are vicious young men, vicious young men, and what they did to her was absolutely terrible.”

    Spota, who said the attack was “barbaric,” identified the suspects as 17-year-old Jose Cornejo, 18-year-old Bryan Larios and 17-year-old Joel Escobar. All three of the MS-13 gang members, who are from El Salvador, were arrested May 29 just hours after the attack. They are being charged as adults.


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    Brentwood Country Club in Brentwood, N.Y., where the attack allegedly occurred

    MS-13, also known as Mara Salvatrucha, is a highly organized and well-funded Central American gang. In 2006, WND reported MS-13 had been infiltrating at least 33 states across the U.S. The gang is well-known in Los Angeles, Houston, New York and Washington, D.C., for excessive brutality. Any person suspected of cooperating with authorities is hunted down, tortured and killed. Initiation rites include kickings, beatings and gang rapes.

    MS-13 relies on metropolitan areas with highly concentrated populations of illegal aliens to boost its spreading membership. Chapters require that initiates perform random acts of violence, such as participating in gang rapes, to gain acceptance.

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    WND also reported in April that the Obama administration had begun implementing a program to fly to the United States at taxpayer expense unaccompanied minors from the Central American countries of Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras if the “children” under 21 have a parent legally residing in the U.S. While there is no confirmation these individuals were brought to the U.S. as a part of that program, they would have qualified as “unaccompanied alien children” if they had parents in the states. New York was identified as one of five states with the most “Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals” through March 22, 2013.




    Just last year, many high-profile personalities and church groups urged Americans to have compassion for unaccompanied illegal-immigrant “children” coming to the U.S. from Central America. During the surge, many MS-13 gang members were spotted in the crowds of minors coming across the border. The mainstream media circulated photos of “children” in detention centers such as the following:


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    “Millions in aid arrived at the border in the form of teddy bears, soccer balls, food, and other supplies,” wrote American Thinker’s M. Catherine Evans. “The influx was billed as a ‘humanitarian crisis.’ Those who opposed the funding of this lawlessness were predictably called ‘racist.’”

    Evans added, “Unfortunately, the bleeding hearts and amnesty pushers passing out blankets at the border have put American lives in danger. The horrific rape is a reminder of the criminal element among the 52,000 unaccompanied children who entered our country illegally last year amid hyped and teary-eyed media reports.”

    Last summer, Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer wrote a letter to Rep. John Boehner, R-Ohio, and Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., specifically warning that “MS-13, one of the world’s most notorious international gangs, has strong ties to several of the Central American countries from which these aliens are arriving.”

    She blasted the Obama administration’s “refusal to properly verify that violent criminals are not among those entering the United States,” saying failing to do so “shows an alarming lack of concern for our homeland security.”


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    A common MS-13 street tattoo includes the letters "MS"
    A common MS-13 street tattoo includes the letters “MS”

    Border Patrol sources said MS-13 graffiti was left on holding-tank walls, and agents confirmed that MS-13 gang members were found among the crowds of illegals coming across the border in 2014.

    According to National Review, Art Del Cueto, president of the National Border Patrol Council Local 2544 in Tucson, said even when Border Patrol agents recognize gang tattoos on illegal-alien minors, the border-crossers must be treated the same as anyone else in the crowd.

    “It’s upsetting that a lot of them are 16 or 17 years old and a lot of them are not going to face deportation,” Cueto said.

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    In the New York case, the suspects’ attorneys reportedly entered “not guilty” pleas to the grand jury indictment charging the gang members with rape, assault, sexual abuse, robbery and other crimes, according to WNBC-TV. Larios’ attorney told the station his client was not involved, and Escobar’s attorney provided no comment. Cornejo’s attorney said he’s still examining the charges.

    The victim reportedly spotted a tattoo on Cornejo’s chin depicting distinctive skull and flames, and police recognized the suspect based on the description. When authorities went to arrest Cornejo, he reportedly tried to jump out of a window.

    The gang members are also accused of robbing and beating the girl’s male friend at a Brentwood middle school. Then they allegedly ordered the teen girl to walk to a remote part of the Brentwood Country Club golf course after telling her they had a weapon.

    Prosecutors say Larios kept watch while Cornejo and Escobar raped the 16-year-old, who was later spotted by golfers as she emerged from the woods nearly naked.

    District Attorney Lawrence Opisso said he didn’t believe any of the three gang members attended school.

    Escobar – and another suspected MS-13 gang member – was also charged with robbing and beating a man on April 28 at the Brentwood middle school, WNBC-TV reported. He allegedly threatened the victim to prevent him from reporting the attack. Escobar pleaded not guilty to those charges, too."

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/el-salva...rically-rape-girl-in-n-y/#PI65PRF2O2kZqmpf.99
     
  2. zbr6

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    Child rape in the Brown populations of the world is as common as the laugh track on Big Bang Theory.

    The fact that these degenerate pieces of subhuman scum filth are allowed to illegally invade our country ...viciously rape children ...then scurry back across the border like the (*)(*)(*)(*)-roaches they are ...and all without any consequence from the federal government is a human rights epidemic.

    Our borders should be guarded by our military.

    They should utilize the most advanced search and destroy technology available.

    Any enemy penetrating the US border illegally should be instantly destroyed.

    But the fact that liberalism, with its identity politics tactics, gives a pass to all Brown invaders as course for vote pandering means that the chance for your child to be raped and killed grows with each newly arrived "undocumented Democrat voter".
     
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    Since when has rape been about nationality? If a person is raped in one part of the world, that's a threat to everyone everywhere. What would happen if the local police don't care? Then it's going to spread. If he didn't rape an American here, then he could have done so somewhere else. He raped her because of a need to be dominant, not because she was an American.
     
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    Most "illegal immigrants" didn't actually commit a crime. Unlawful presence in the US is not a crime.
     
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    Breaking into our country is illegal, meaning UNLAWFUL...There is a process in which to do it correctly...Stand in the %^$#ing line!!
     
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    Yes, crossing the border is a crime. But most "illegal immigrants" are here due to expired visas. That means they crossed legally and are here unlawfully. That doesn't mean they committed a crime.
     
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    semantics by those that wish to skate legal immigration..
     
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    Semantics are what makes up political rhetoric. Isn't the phrase "illegal immigrant" a bit strange if most of them aren't committing a crime?
     
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    So much to say, so little time. I don't even know where to begin.
     
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    The fact is that the Federal Government absolutely and without any doubt whatsoever supports and subsidizes illegal immigration. The vast majority of people immigrating are simply people looking to work and better their lives. A small portion are criminals just as you would find in any cross segment of the population.

    The thing that is so frustrating about this entire subject is the absolute ignorance of the American public when it comes to this issue. Immigration policy is a farce and a fraud perpetrated by the Federal Government on the Citizens of the United States. The government robs billions of dollars from the American Citizens in the name of securing the borders when in fact they do everything in their power to make the border as porous as possible.

    There is an organization of retired border patrol officers who have a website that explains the entire situation, here is a video http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...0IKYBg&usg=AFQjCNGQUY1nclHyvDtsnFXG9_yajtcy1g
    in short the government creates "environmentally sensitive areas" that prevent border patrol from intervening in border traffic, they then redeploy the border patrol to inland checkpoints to harass US Citizens and to generate revenue by preforming asset forfeitures at these checkpoints.

    The border patrol only interdicts about 3% of all illegal border traffic, but they steal tens of millions of dollars of legal Citizens assets acting as modern day Highwaymen. It is all a disgusting joke, and those of you who blame this situation on the illegal aliens, are as stupid as a box of rocks.
     
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    How about instead of wasting that little time you have, why not use it posting a reply that touches on what I said?
     
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    Typing out long thoughts on a phone is a pain in the butt. I'll get around to it when I'm at my regular keyboard, I'm sure you can understand that.
     
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    Sure. Understandable.
     
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    Thanks. The crappy part about reading these threads on a phone is seeing something in need of an elaborate response and when I finally get to a keyboard there are 60 new posts taking the thread in another direction or what I was going to say is no longer relevant.
     
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    Most illegal immigrants are here via EWI, a visa overstay is not illegally here until they have an order of removal against them. Illegal presence within the US is an infraction punishable by deportation, illegally crossing the border is a violation, a federal class 4 misdemeanor, second offense is a class 6 felony.

    40%, of the claimed illegal immigrants, are visa overstays, 60% + are EWI's. http://www.politifact.com/texas/sta...arter-claim-40-percent-nations-illegal-resid/
     
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    Its only strange when you make claims that are fallacy. Your fallacy is that you don't know much about what you are claiming. 60% + of illegal immigrants are EWI, that makes the majority as having committed a crime to get here.
     
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    Its not about nationality, its about where it occurred and to whom.

    :roll:

    He could have done it somewhere else, in fact he should have done it somewhere else since he shouldn't have been here to begin with. We can only hope that he now gets caught and he gets raped while in jail, an eye for an eye you know.
     
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    For the most part, there is NO LINE for hourly workers from the Americas.

    "Stand in the line" is just a stupid slogan.
     
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    Why should they be able to come here to work? We don't need hourly workers.

    Stupid slogan? :roflol:
     
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    It's been clearly shown that we need these laborers.

    Claiming there is a line when there isn't one demonstrates a lack of knowledge of our immigration system.

    So does suggesting that being here is a crime.
     
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    No it hasn't. :roflol: Farmers are the only ones crying about labor shortages, yet they are the very ones that fail to use the H2A visa, which has no annual cap.

    When did I claim there was a line? They have a correct way to apply for entry, hell Mexico has a TN visa that no other country can use, they also have a lazer card that allows them entry into the US.

    Suggesting? Do you not know what the laws state? EWI is a federal misdemeanor for the first offense, second offense is a federal felony. Obama is prosecuting more EWI's then any other president. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/23/criminal-prosecution-immigrants-cost_n_3323181.html
     

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