The U.S.S. Liberty Must Not Be Forgotten

The USS Liberty must not be forgotten despite all government-led attempts to cover up the crime. Treason is treason. Let justice be done though the heavens fall!

http://www.unz.com/article/the-uss-liberty-must-not-be-forgotten/

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

 

How is this a current event?

 

Stormfront is down for maintenance...

 

Ah, that explains it.

 

He's a communist, so that can't be the reason.

 

Not really a difference...

Both nazi and communist want to subjugate others through violence and outright murder.

 

Anniversary, pal.
Happy Birthday!

 

Yep, and let's mete out some justice on the Limeys while we're at it.

Who's up for invading Great Britain and making it our 51st state?



I could really go for some free real estate in the Highlands...

 

Seems there's slump in new material for the conspirator biz. Having to recirculate that silly anti-semitic idiocy points to a profound lack of creativity and moxie.

 

And a communist can't be an anti-semite?

We see these reappearing periodically every few months.

 

Stormfront is a fascist website. The OP is a communist.

Yup.

 

And there is a difference?

Communists are normally "International Socialists", Stormfront (and NAZIs) are "National Socialists".

Personally, I do not see much of a difference to be honest. And an anti-semite is to be scorned, no matter what their political beliefs are.

 

Despite their name, the Nazis were not socialist.

North Korea is officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, but they are neither democratic nor a republic.

 

Different topic, but they were indeed Socialist. Just as the Fascist Party of Italy was.

Just because they were not Communist, does not mean they were not Socialist.

Look at their plank, look at their policies and behavior, and how they operated and goverened, and they were indeed Socialists. Why people try to deny this simple fact is beyond me, other then dishonesty or blindness or politics. But there is no denying they were Socialists. They were simply of a Nationalist instead of an Internationalist brand.

And in the 1930's and even before National Socialism was a form of Government that was sweeping the world. England had a NS Party, and most of China was under their rule (in fact what we know of today as the PRC and Taiwan results from a split from 2 differing Socialist beliefs - one Internationalist (Communist - PRC) and the other Nationalist (Kumintong - Nationalist).

Please, if you are going to try and refute this with me, come with much more then a blanket denial.

Which simply shows to me that all forms of Socialists are more then willing to lie to get what they want. No surprise here.

 

Yes they were. They enacted the same agrarian reforms and social engineering that the soviet did.

 

Every single survivor of Israel's deliberate attack on Liberty knows what happened on 8 June 1967:
"On June 8, 1967, US Navy intelligence ship USS Liberty was suddenly and brutally attacked on the high seas in international waters by the air and naval forces of Israel. The Israeli forces attacked with full knowledge that this was an American ship and lied about it. Survivors have been forbidden for 40 years to tell their story under oath to the American public. The USS Liberty Memorial web site tells their story and is dedicated to the memory of the 34 brave men who died."

Americans and all the people of this world deserve to learn the truth about this matter if for no other reason than as a reminder all governments lie.

"After the Israeli fighter aircraft completed their attacks, three Israeli torpedo boats arrived and began a surface attack about 35 minutes after the start of the air attack. The torpedo boats launched a total of five torpedoes, one of which struck the side of USS Liberty, opposite the ship's research spaces. [20]

"Twenty-six Americans in addition to the eight who had been killed in the earlier air attacks, were killed as a result of this explosion.

"Following their torpedo attack, the torpedo boats moved up and down the length of the ship (both the port and starboard sides), continuing their attack, raking the ship with cannon and machine gun fire.[21] In Malta, crewmen were later assigned the task of counting all of the holes in the ship that were the size of a man's hand or larger. They found a total of 861 such holes, in addition to 'thousands' of .50 caliber machine gun holes.

"Survivors report that the torpedo boat crews swept the decks of USS Liberty with continuous machine gun fire, targeting communications equipment and any crewmembers who ventured above decks.[22]

"Damage control firefighters, who had already risked their lives merely by appearing on deck, had to abandon their efforts because their fire hoses had been shredded by machine gun fire.[23]

"Survivors also report that the torpedo boat crews fired on the inflated life boats launched by the crew after the captain gave the order 'prepare to abandon ship.'[24] This order had to be rescinded because the crew was unable to stand on the main deck without being fired upon and the life rafts were destroyed as they were launched."

http://www.gtr5.com/summary_of_events.htm

 

In the 1991 Gulf War, U.S. A-10s mistakenly attacked and destroyed a British armored personnel carrier, killing 10 British soldiers.

The U.S. paid compensation and pretty much all was forgotten.

Israel paid compensation for their attack on the Liberty, why can't people let that go?

 

And it wasn't even their fault; the Liberty was sent into a hot war zone without any notification to the Israelis. It was our fault. They should get a refund with interest and an apology. Civilian cargo carriers using false flags was a standard Arab terrorist tactic in those days. Doesn't matter what flag was run up in that situation; without alerts from our own naval intelligence commo liaisons there was no foul on Israel's part.

 

I'm still angry over our military's treatment of that gunship pilot that repeatedly asked for ID confirmation of armored units by radio, and repeatedly assured they were enemy, only to get told almost immediately after he fired they were friendlies. That was a sorry deal, and completely wrong. I'll see if I can find that incident online somewhere; it had the camera vids from the gunship along wth the sound recordings when the story ran in the media here, so there must be a YouTube of it somewhere.

 

A US pilot killed 5 Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan when he mistakenly thought a training exercise was actually a bunch of Taliban.

Friendly fire happens in wars on a depressingly regular basis.

 

People never realize just how staggeringly hard it is for combat pilots flying low at 400 knots to properly identify something like a ship or an armored vehicle.

Flying by at high speed in combat conditions is much, much, much more difficult than matching something to a visual identification card you've been given that shows vehicles or vessels in profile.

And it has been that way for all time.

In the famous Battle of the Denmark Strait where the Bismarck sank the HMS Hood, the British were handicapped by the fact that they opened fire on the wrong German ship. They targeted the German heavy cruiser Prince Eugen with their initial broadsides because it looked vaguely like the Bismarck (despite being only one third its size). Their main reason for firing on it was it was in the lead and they figured that the Bismarck would lead the formation.

 

I think treason has to be an act against one's own country. That doesn't apply to Israel and the Liberty. I'd call it "unsportsmanlike conduct". The penalties are harsher than for treason anyway.

 

Of course, which is why that pilot should never have been punished. He bent over backwards to make sure, and repeatedly. The screw up was elsewhere, not on him.

 

And in the case of the incident I referred to, add in night fighting to the mix. Yeah, he had night vision/IR, but that tech in those days wasn't that great, which was why the pilot was frantically asking for CC input for ID.