Why Britain's future best served outside the EU

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  1. JohnTierra

    JohnTierra New Member

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    The unexpected outright Conservative general election victory has forced David Cameron to forcefully pursue an agenda which he originally advocated to win back Eurosceptic patriotic voters and appease the Eurosceptic and patriotic wing of his party: a referendum on Britain's membership of the EU.

    We can be certain that Mr Cameron's efforts will be less than valiant, his "renegotiation" will simply culminate in a repackaging of the current terms by which we are the members of this bureaucratic political union. To understand why people like me are frustrated with the EU we must go back right to 1975 when the first referendum occurred. What did the British people vote for? A common market, nothing more, nothing less. The demand of the electorate was free trade. Fast forward 40 years and the EU has evolved to new levels. It relentlessly and stealthily tries to advance superstate status and undermine national sovereignty. Successive treaties by successive governments have thrown away powers of our parliament to bureaucrats in Brussels who can now impose regulations on our businesses without even consulting our parliament.

    The most senior figures in the EU are appointed, not elected, the British people have no means by which they can remove them from office if they are dissatisfied with their conduct. Just this last summer, the EU peculiarly banned the import of high energy vacuum cleaners by European nation states. Agree with this ban or the pretexts that justify it or not, surely this is a decision that should be debated by and taken by the representatives we elected in our own parliament?

    The vacuum cleaner ban is just one of the many examples of what is wrong with the EU. Just 15 years ago Europhiles were discussing the flirting with the prospect of discarding our ability to set interest rates and print or destroy our own currency and let another institution decide our monetary fate: the European Central Bank. What were the threats of impending calamity and disaster that the Europhiles made back then (had we not given into their nonsensical proposal)? The threats were, "job losses, no investment, we'll be isolated from the rest of the world". Here we are today, and thank God we never went along with their idea. All over Mediterranean Europe, poor countries such as Greece, Spain and Portugal are enduring the torture of debt and coercion because they were fooled into accepting and placing blind faith in a currency which can not work in countries with such discrepancies in their fiscal policies.

    The EU is beginning to march into the territory of doing what it had set out to stop from happening in the first place: stop one nation of Europe dominating another. That devil Merkel is playing a clever game. Promote more EU integration which will naturally favour the biggest economy of Europe (come on people, why else do you think the ECB's HQ is in Frankfurt of all the European cities they could have chosen) and gain influence and in some cases, the last word, over major decisions on the European continent. Germany gains immense power without firing a single shot. Is this why 40 million people died in WW2? Only so that 70 years on we can have another Hitler dressed up in the robes of a democrat, using the EU rather than the Wehrmacht as their body to exert power?

    And of course, this affects us at home in the UK very much. If the EU referendum goes in favour of an in vote, it is absolutely certain that the Europhile traitors will have a compulsion to lobby for even more integration and ignore the will of the British public. Do not underestimate the tenacity of these Europhile renegades in their ambition for a United States of Europe! The French had a referendum of the "European Constitution" and defiantly voted against it, then we had the Lisbon Treaty forced on the entire continent which was basically the European Constitution rewritten.

    A flame of outrage is lit within me when these good for nothing Europhiles try to cover their ambitions for one European superstate behind trade. Jobs will be lost they say, people will stop trading with us they say, investment will run away they say. Well firstly I must point out, you said the same about abstaining from joining the Euro. The world did not end. We are the 5th biggest economy in the world and we don't even have a seat on the World Trade Organisation because some unknown bureaucrat does the bidding of all EU countries for it. Iceland has a free trade agreement with China, but we don't. Measly Iceland can reach an agreement with China but we're entrapped in the only stagnating bloc in the world!

    Why is it not possible to maintain a market relationship with Europe (as well as cooperating with them on areas of priority) and ALSO trade with our commonwealth partners and the emerging economies of the world? The argument that there is an economic necessity to remaining in the EU is absolutely absurd. Economically speaking, we consume more EU goods than we sell to them. Do you really believe for a moment that the Fuhrer...sorry I mean Angela Merkel, will honestly want a situation where there's a 10% tariff on Mercedes being sold in the UK? The German finance minister has spoken of the German desire to see the UK stay, but has also stressed that post Brexit, trade can be maintained. Volumes of trade will not decrease. To those who argue that following the example of Norway and Switzerland (both of whom maintain free trade with the EU without being guinea pigs in the EU political experiment of one Reich, one People, One Fuhrer) would leave us without the ability to decide the standards of EU trade, to this I say firstly, we have very little influence over EU standards anyway as they are negotiated behind closed doors, secondly, we would only have to impose EU regulations on products we export and would not have to impose them on our domestic economy, and that thirdly, such standards have to be abided by in any export situation (e.g, when selling cars to Japan, we have to meet Japanese standards, would we seriously join an Asian Union just to influence those trade standards, it's not as if they devise those standards to penalise us in the first place).

    With Jean Claude Juncker calling for a EU army, the direction of the EU elites is clear. Don't fool yourself with prospects of a reformed EU. The kingpins in the EU are firmly committed to a German dominated federalised EU where national sovereignty is non existent. If we are to save our country from the Fourth Reich, we must move to having a purely economic relationship with Europe. We never signed up to a political union and I urge my countrymen and like minded patriots with the country's best interests at heart to rise up, vote to leave when the referendum comes, and regain complete sovereignty.
     
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    Currency crisis as a result of Brexit?...
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