Nobody cares what you think and it doesn't matter

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  1. GeorgiaAmy

    GeorgiaAmy Well-Known Member

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    US society has accepted homosexuality as a whole. Protest it all you like, in vain.
    As I have stated before, morality is evolving and subjective. Rhis society has given homosexuality the stamp of approval. Go America!! I bet the first girl on girl porno came from the US;)
     
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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm confused...is there a question or source you wish to debate?

    This looks like a troll/flamebait thread.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean morality is devolving.
     
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    I don't care at all about homosexuality, be gay, don't be gay, get married, don't get married! I'm just happy gay marriage passed, why? Basically I am hoping and praying to get it off the news and move on to important issues that I care about, I just want to be done with it.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Gay marriage, as well as just gayness in general, gives conservative pols a chance to be real asshats in the eyes of just about anyone who's not like that themselves. People who are like that get to see themselves as beleaguered martyrs defending civilization from the fabulous hordes. People who aren't that way get to notice what asshats people who are that way are. It doesn't cost anything and much merriment ensues. Hell, it's a wonder they don't do it all the time...oh....wait.
     
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    Given that my anti-"SSM" posting continues unabated, and that Obergefell has not attenuated the supply of imbeciles trying to get me to believe, figuratively speaking, that a diamond and a dunghill are one and the same, I confess I'm hard pressed to understand why I should believe nobody cares what I think.
     
  7. GeorgiaAmy

    GeorgiaAmy Well-Known Member

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    Morality is devolving??
    Could you define your understanding of morality and identify what you believe to be the source for or foundation of morality?
     
  8. GeorgiaAmy

    GeorgiaAmy Well-Known Member

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    What issues are most important to you?
    I think "news" for the most part is intentionally inflammatory and divisive....Entertainment more than news...I honestly can hardly fathom an unbiased report on anything. Can you?
     
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    I can understand why southern Christian conservatives might think morality is devolving. Among other things, it's become politically incorrect to beat your wife these days.
     
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    Maybe some people do care what you think. Politicians care what the masses think, even when what they think is idiotic.
    I suppose my initial point was the protests and criticism of homosexuality in America are as relevant and productive as protests and criticism of divorce, illegitimacy, pornography, abortion, prohibition, etc....
    Your Frank Herbert quote... Could you enlighten me as to the context regarding the quote?
     
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    But on the other hand, it's politically correct to call a white woman, a black woman, just because she says she wants to be.

    the New America. I guess this was the Change Obama was talking about?

    I want to identify as a dog so I don't have to pay taxes like humans do.
     
  12. GeorgiaAmy

    GeorgiaAmy Well-Known Member

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    Which southern states? What denomination of Christianity? Please share your experience regarding Christians in the south and domestic abuse. What did the beaten wives do afterward?
     
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    She can call herself whatever she wants, no skin off my nose. I don't call her anything.

    Things changing a bit too fast for ya?
     
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    she looked black to me, doesn't really matter to me
     
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    I look Native American. Can I now soak up the Native America scholarships that they give out at my local university that are reserved for two Native Americans per year?

    I now want to identify as one so I don't have to pay for college.
     
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    Race is a made up human construct.
     
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    Race is stupid. It's the actions that matter. A thug isn't a thug because he is black or white. It's because he throws up a gang sign and robs a liquor store.
     
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    Race is a made up concept that people used to say one person was lower than they are. In the western world it dates back to the crusades or longer ago. It's a relic of old world stupidity
     
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    you ought to know!
     
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    GeorgiaAmy Well-Known Member

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    lol. Really? I have read a lot of stupid comments today, but this one may take the cake. Did you say that thinking it was popular or politically correct? You do realize races intentionally segregate and commune?
     
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    I do:) Did you intend that to be an insult? I love women. I love men. And I apologize for neither.
     
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    I think you misunderstood. Race has little biological basis, in the sense that there are no known barriers to breeding. There are physical differences between what we see as races, that make medical differences in some rare cases, and of course there are histories of evolution in different geographical areas without much gene dispersion to other breeding populations for long enough to lead to visible differences. But oveall, visibility aside, these physical differences are almost entirely cosmetic.

    EXCEPT, as I think you are saying, cosmetic differences might be physiologically insignficant, but they are socially critical. It's human nature to polarize Us against Them (see the homosexual threads, see the bitter divisions in Ireland, where except for religion the people are as alike as peas in a pod). And visible differences make polarization easy, so we "find" racial superiority or inferiority along visible lines, cosmetic as they may be. We "make up the racial construct" for the PURPOSE of finding ourselves superior to others we regard as not part of our in-group (AKA the "good guys").

    The Irish example was important, because it tells us that if we were to take a population of people as similar to one another as people can possibly get, and put them all togehter in one place, they would discover or invent or manufacture SOME difference, real or imagined - and THEN they'd fight to the death over it!
     
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    well that explains white flight and the holocaust.... all in my head.
    You can biologically minimize race. You can make it a taboo topic.In your mind, does that line of thinking solve any problems? Eradicate racism? What is your goal here?
     
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    By Jove, I think you've got it. You are citing self-fulfilling fears. Like when the US stock market crashes over Greece, NOT because Greece matters at all to the market, but because all the investors are betting that all the OTHER investors are going to panic, and so they all panic.

    Biology has already done that for us, except for our need to find others inferior.

    As my example of the Irish illustrated, you can't eradicate racism. People WILL find differences. The point was that people will fabricate differences that don't exist if they must, in order to differentiate Us from Them. And as I said, people will be willing to fight to the death over even imaginary differences, it's that important to us.
     
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    Not really, you should have seen some of the porno they found painted on the walls of Pompeii and Herculaneum once they were unearthed. Now the Romans, they knew how to enjoy sex and prostitution was legal and accepted.
     

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