Forget Jello pudding and Fat Albert.I find it nauseauting to have to read practically every other day a new allegation hurdled like overly ripe tomatoes at my Once Hero,Bill Cosby. I had two hero in high school.Marlon Brando and Bill Cosby. Cosby due to his TV show - The Bill Cosby Show - { 1969-1971 } He brilliantly played Chet Kincaid, the Gym teacher, who's door was always open.Students both looked up to him because of his humor and also confided in him because of his uncanny candor and fatherly approach to unraveling growing pains.Because students in high school DO suffer growing pains.The Cosby Show show always managed to take difficult and touchy student problems and resolve them for the better. I don't see any such thing now applied towards the Cos.I see a whole lot of Piling-on.It's easy to pile-on when someone is down.Down for the count,apparently.Now there's Little Miss Troublemaker,and Female grieved ambulance chaser Gloria Allred to the scene.Using whatever snidely shylock theatrics to gain attention.Typical Sue-crazy jew lawyer. Helps to pay for her fancy tailored wardrobe,no doubt. The only way On Earth I'd believe that The Cos,did what they say he's done is a book I read from around 10 years ago by Peter Lawford's son titled - Symptoms of Withdrawal : a Memoir of Snapshots and Redemption - by Christopher Kennedy Lawford. Christopher appeared on - Hardball - w/ Chris Matthews to talk about his book.Asked why No index,he explained he didn't want many in Hollywood to buy the book,just to check the index and see a Who's who and then gossip about.So there is No Index. The book was pretty good.It explains a lot about Peter Lawford and also that Kennedy mystique.Chris Matthews probably the biggest devotee of any and all things Kennedyesque.Which explained Christophers appearance on - Hardball - a political venue. Here's the thingy.In that book,as Christopher was checking his father out from a stay that was afforded Pop by Hugh Heftner at the Playboy mansion. There were guesthouses on the property and with the right connections and the permission of Heftner,a star or big shot could have use of one of the bungalows for whatever reason.Peter Lawford got permission to use one of the guesthouse.This was at the very end of Peter's rope.His last year. He was all washed-up { due to a lifetime of alcohol abuse and also cocaine dabbling }. He was unemployable { couldn't remember lines and couldn't show up on time }.Could no longer find old buddies to loan him money or use of their fancy apartment,let alone penthouse.Son Christopher was coping with trying to stay clean { Heroin addiction }. End of Part 1
So Christopher came a runnin' to help his father.He was familiar with the Playboy Mansion due to being there for Movie night a couple times. Christopher got a call from the " man in the pajamas himself " Hefner : Chris,Hef here.We're having a problem with your dad. Christopher : What's the problem,Hef ? Hefner : Well we don't really know,He stays in his guesthouse all day talking to squirrels. Christopher : That doesn't sound good. Hefner : No.We found a trash can full of vodka bottles.I don't think he's taking any drugs. Christopher : How would you know ? Hefner : I wouldn't. But he hasn't been out of there in a month, and nobody's visiting. Christopher : I'll fly out there and see what I can do. Christopher was back east and struggling to stay clean and sober himself and trying to find suitable employment Rail thin,speech slurred,with liver distended ... Old Man Lawford was a sore sight and in bad shape.Hadn't shaved in months and had a long white flowing beard.Probably helped in his days being spent conversing amongst the squirrels. Christopher himself was banished from the Playboy Mansion five years earlier.Doing his best to clean himself up and engage his son,Peter managed to walk the 100 or so yards to the main house.But Christopher had to carry him up onto the porch.This is where The Cos ... comes into play.While sitting,Father & Son,on the porch of the famous Playboy mansion of Los Angeles up walked Bill Cosby with some Woman. Cosby walked by us with a look of utter disdain and said to the woman he was with, " Look that's Peter Lawford.Can you believe it ? How pathetic is that ? "
I think it's pretty silly, one of unsealed documents said that he gave three pills of robitussin to a woman he wanted to have sex with but didn't have sex with her, I don't think three pills of cough medicine can knock someone out.
I think a lot of what those women say happened makes little sense. Very few women I know would allow themselves to be " knocked- out " or slipped a Mickey { Mickey Finn } without really making a big deal over. it is far worse than just knocking-up { getting pregnant } a galsy.And we all know how Big a deal Galsy make out of being knocked-up. It's just not plausible that so many women were slipped a Mickey or Whatever and The Cos basically raping them.But after reading Christopher Lawfords book and that Cosby reference,took me by surprise.If Cosby was so coldhearted as to say that about a former Movie Star { Peter Lawford } when he was at his lowest point in life,then Bill Cosby has No heart. Then maybe he did have no heart when he drugged and mashed/raped all those women.hard to believe a guy with such a national image could be such a lecher and hypocrite.I also recall how teammate { Robert Culp } form the hit series - I Spy - taught The Cos everything he knew about acting. Then when the series was over and Culp was struggling and Cosby was hitting it big in everything he did { TV,Movies,Comedy clubs,cartoons } Cosby basically gave him the middle finger.
"Very few women I know would allow themselves to be knocked out...w/o really making a big deal over.".....these women did not ALLOW themselves to be knocked out by a drug. It was slipped into their drink W/O their knowledge.....IOW's, they had no control over what was happening to them b/c the drug was done on the sly. I listened to one woman who was drugged by Cosby. She said they had been friends for yrs, she was visiting him, he gave her a cup of coffee and the minute she took a drink, she felt himself go limp, totally helpless....... You went on and on about his tv show and the 'greatness' of it. What does his acting, tv show have to do w/what he did to these women? His tv show was fantasy land, what he did to these women after the lights were turned off and the studio was closed, is reality......
because as Chet Kincaid,gym teacher , who had an open door policy to help any student over any matter,no matter how personal or embarrassing. I think there's a huge difference between some actor { character actor } known for playing a stereotypical baddie { bad guy,villain } and a TV star who is seen and personified a father figure..THAT'S the difference.Do you need a drawing to better understand.How about a Salvadore DaLI PRINT.
No, thank you. I don't need a drawing b/c I know the difference b/t the world of reality and the fantasy land of acting. One has nothing to do w/the other......Cosby used his TV image of 'America's dad' for his advantage to drug and rape women who trusted him and he got by w/this for decades. I really don't know where you're going w/this comparing 'character actor' vs 'tv star'.....the fact is they BOTH come out of Hollywood's fantasy land. Neither of their roles are REAL.....it's acting, pretending. IIRC, the last count of women who came forward is 39. If you want to believe 39 women, many of them who didn't know each other, are lying.... their only purpose is to destroy 'American's Dad' who is an innocent guy? Wow...there's absolutely no logic there.......
So You Trust what this Criminal/Corrupt malfeasant Mainstream Media reports. John Ziegler { Talk Show Host } did a Documentary on how Joe Paterno was actually Framed.The News cycle was in the doldrums,Football was over and Baseball wasn't going anywhere and it was that time of year when ESPN had little to report on.So they managed to manufacture a news cycle around how Joe Paterno was just as guilty as Jerry Sandusky { there was only ONE kid, a grown-up by now who insisted he was raped for years by Sandusky.}. This kid lied about his own father,a guy who had been to prison, for abuse.The Kid's mom was a nut and also had a history of lawsuits.So this Kid { the only one who went into court accusing Sandusky of being raped.}. Turns out the Mom and the Kid made out like bandits and quickly bought cars and a couple new homes.Joe paterno was painted with a huge broad brush by this stinkin' Lyin,criminal MSM as the bad guy.It was easy breezie for the MSM to do.Paterno was not a publicity hound and had a stellar career graduating football players.He was accused of Enabling Jerry Sandusky.He was accused of knowing all about Jerry Sandusky's tendencies to rape kids.However only One kid { a Creep,whose father abused him and a creep Mom } went to court to make the case against Jerry Sandusky. The MSM Never bothered to double check the Kid's story about an abusive father and a lawsuit crazy mom. Who's to say ... Cosby isn't being framed.General Petraeus was Framed.The F.B.I. knew all about his girlfriend.Because Petraeus had to be vetted in order to be in charge of the CIA. Eric Holder leaked to the New York times right around the time the Benghazi scandal was heating up.Eric Holder { Justice has a division in the F.B.I. } leaked about Petraeus and adultery knowing that's a serious charge for a Military officer. Instant dismissal or loss of rank.Petraeus was outted as an Adulterer so he wouldn't blab about what he knew over Benghazi.Especially the night of the attack and WHO gave the all important Stand Down order.Only a Commander can make that sort of call. This MSM to this day,refuses to ask Obama about that night,where exactly he was, what he was doing and that Stand Down Order.Just like Obama's Forged Birth certificates. If this MSM can Frame a war hero { General Petraeus } and a Football Icon { Joe Paterno } and have his statue on the campus taken down,then ... they are willing to do anything.
Holy cow......what to say? Except........are you for real? As far as the Sandusky case goes - you're forgetting about the coach or whoever he was who first saw Sandusky in the shower w/a boy and went to Paterno - Paterno went to the bosses and no one did anything. And there were many guys who testified about Sandusky's sexual abuse when they were kids. It's happened b/f when no one does a thing about a crime being committed b/c of reputation of the establishment and to keep the $$ coming in.......fact of life. Anyway.......back to Cosby. If you want to believe that over 3 dozen women are lying b/c of ....why? Well, that's your perogative. Believe me, I won't try to change your mind b/c I'm not going to give up that much time of my life........ But try to keep in mind one thing that, to me, speaks volumes about a person's innocence or guilt. When a person, as in this case, Cosby, is accused of a heinous crime and he has NOTHING to say..... dead silence. Only an occassional denial from his attorney - you better believe something is wrong w/him. An innocent man accused of this despicable crime would not EVER hide, not having anything to say. There's a vast difference b/t the behavior of guilt and innocence, which is human nature. The innocent man WILL speak up, loud and clear and very angry and make demands to get the truth out there and one of them would be for the women to face him in person........wouldn't innocent YOU? And you're ignoring one other important fact.... Cosby HAD admitted in court that he used Quualudes to have sex w/women, then the records were sealed........ Unfortunately, for the women friends of Cosby, he had 2 different personalities.......the fictional "America's dad" and the REAL Cosby.
Some aspects of this Cosby Public trial in the mainstream media is to be believed and some not.I never would have believed it if not for that OP i rendered explaining how Cosby acted towards Peter and Christopher Lawford while sitting at the Playboy mansion porch.Cosby acted uppity and made an insulting remark directed at a famous actor, when he was at his lowest point in life.
Do I think he raped woman? there is a pretty good chance, however do I believe all these woman are being honest? no....
The real question is weather or not he will be charged criminally.... How old is this guy 85 perhaps? I don't know what the statute on rape is in these states... I suppose if they could charge him he could get away with it for being mentally incapable to stand trial.... The guy is old... That doesn't make what he allegedly did 20, 30 or 40 years ago right tho - it means he can play the "old man" card tho....
Playing the 'old man' card wouldn't do Cosby one bit of good b/c the yr/time of the rape was stated right from the start by these women, who are numerous in #'s now and Cosby still hasn't made any public statement that I'm aware of. He has always hidden behind his attorney.....and that's what guilty pigs do......
A 'pretty good chance'? There are way to many women who finally came forward. IF there are any women who are lying, Cosby would know it and could have them questioned....why wouldn't he? But so fare, not a word from him. He had admitted in court he had quaaludes to give to women for sex.
Fordham University rescinds honorary degree it gave Cosby Fordham University on Thursday rescinded an honorary degree it presented to Bill Cosby, citing sexual assault allegations against him and the comedian's admission that he obtained quaaludes to give to women with whom he hoped to have sex. The University Board of Trustees voted to take back the honorary doctor of fine arts degree given to him in 2001. Cosby admitted having extramarital relationships with several women, including some who now accuse him of sexual assault. He has never been charged with a crime. This is the first time Fordham has rescinded an honorary degree. . Cosby is seeking to hire a criminal defence lawyer as prosecutors near Philadelphia revisit a 2005 sexual-assault complaint. Lawyer Edwin Jacobs says Cosby's agents contacted him in the last few days about a Montgomery County investigation and he referred them to another Philadelphia-area lawyer. The Philadelphia Inquirer first reported Tuesday on Jacobs' involvement. http://bigstory.ap.org/article/9812...ersity-rescinds-honorary-degree-it-gave-cosby As with Josh Duggar and other "family values" moralists, the TRUTH is getting to him.
Cosby charged with sex assault http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20151231_Source__Montco_DA_to_announce_result_of_Cosby_probe.html Montgomery County prosecutors on Wednesday charged Bill Cosby with felony indecent assault, reviving a decade-old allegation that he drugged and sexually attacked a former Temple University employee. The charge against the 78-year-old, a television celebrity once celebrated as "America's Dad," followed more than a year of claims by scores of women who said Cosby had sexually assaulted them - sometimes after drugging them - during a span of four decades. Cosby has repeatedly denied assaulting anyone, including Andrea Constand, the woman at the center of the emerging criminal case. The charge against him carries a maximum penalty of five to 10 years in prison and a $25,000 fine. MORE COVERAGE Timeline: Bill Cosby sexual assault case in Montco 5 key stories about the Cosby case this year READ: The criminal complaint Amid a media throng, he arrived in a black Chevy Suburban Wednesday afternoon for an initial appearance before a magistrate district judge in Elkins Park. Looking frail, Cosby carried a cane and was dressed in a casual hooded sweater, black sweatpants and rain boots. Accompanied by defense lawyer Brian McMonagle and guided by spokeswoman Monique Pressley, he entered the small courtroom, where District Magistrate Elizabeth A. McHugh informed him of the charge. He did not have to enter a plea. Cosby said little during the brief hearing, responding only to the judge's warnings to stay away from Constand during the run-up to his trial. But as he left the room, he stopped to offer an unexpected goodbye. "Thanks, chief," he told one of the Cheltenham investigators who built the case against him. Cosby, his lawyer and his spokeswoman did not comment as they climbed into the SUV and headed to the Cheltenham Police Station, where the comedian is expected to be booked and immediately released upon paying 10 percent of a $1 million bond. Constand, now 42 and living in Toronto, first lodged her accusations against Cosby in 2005, when she told Cheltenham police that he drugged and assaulted her a year earlier while she was working as the operations manager for Temple University's women's basketball team. Montgomery County authorities investigated her claims at the time but eventually decided not to pursue a case, citing a lack of evidence. District Attorney Risa Vetri Ferman reopened the investigation this summer in light of accounts from more than 50 women who have since come forward describing encounters with Cosby dating back decades similar to the one outlined by Constand. Nearly all of those allegations have proven too old to prosecute. But under Pennsylvania's 12-year statute of limitations for felony sex crimes, Montgomery County prosecutors had until January to file a case based on Constand's claims. "A prosecutor's job is to follow the evidence wherever it leads," said Kevin R. Steele, the first assistant who will succeed Ferman next week. "Upon examination of all the evidence, today we are able to seek justice on behalf of Mr. Cosby's victim." Constand's attorney, Dolores Troiani, said Wednesday that she and her client "have the utmost confidence" in Steele and his team. "We wish to express our appreciation to the Montgomery County District Attorney's Office, the County Detectives and the Cheltenham Police Department for the consideration and courtesy they have shown Andrea during this difficult time," Troiani said in a statement. According to sources familiar with the probe, a team of Montgomery County investigators met with Constand in August in Toronto and have since interviewed several individuals who were close to her or Cosby at the time of the alleged assault. The resulting case is built at least in part on statements Cosby made under oath during a 2005 deposition that were publicly released for the first time this summer. Constand's lawyer has said her client has agreed to cooperate with the revived prosecution. As one of the comedian's earliest public accusers, Constand's story has already been picked apart in multiple venues - including civil suits, extensive media coverage, and even as an eleventh hour campaign issue in this year's race between the two men vying to replace Ferman when she leaves office to assume a role as an elected Common Pleas Court judge. Steele was elected district attorney in November and will oversee the Cosby prosecution. Bruce L. Castor Jr. - the losing contender in that race and the former Montgomery County District Attorney who handled the 2005 Constand investigation - has repeatedly said that he chose not to pursue the case because he believed her claims would not stand up in court. "The statement she gave police did not provide sufficient detail on which a criminal charge could be based," he told the Inquirer in a September interview. "Her statement was consistent with a woman who had been drugged and couldn't remember what happened to her." In a civil suit she filed days after that decision, Constand laid out a detailed version of her claims. According to those filings, she told investigators she met Cosby - one of Temple's most vocal boosters - through her association with the university's basketball team and became a frequent visitor at his Cheltenham home, where he often offered her career advice over dinner. She believed she had a "sincere friendship" with Cosby, police wrote in a criminal affidavit filed Wednesday. During one of her visits to his home in January 2004, she complained of feeling "drained," the affidavit said. Cosby gave her three blue pills and told her they would "take the edge off," she later told police. He also gave her wine and water, and minutes later she said she felt "like jelly," "rubbery," and "paralyzed." Constand told police she woke up at 4 a.m. the next morning with her sweater bunched up and her bra undone. She said she saw Cosby standing in a robe. "Cosby gave her a muffin, walked to the front door, opened it, and said 'Alright,'" the affidavit states. Cosby later admitted to giving Cosntand pills. He told police they were Benadryl and he told Constand's mother it was a prescription. In a four-day deposition in the civil lawsuit Constand filed against him, he said he had acquired Quaaludes with the intent of using them in sexual encounters with women but maintained that their encounter was consensual. That deposition - in which Cosby offered detailed descriptions of his relationships with Constand and multiple other women - has now become a central component to the charges. According to the transcript, Cosby described more advanced sexual activity than Constand could remember when she first reported her allegations to police. In it, Cosby recalled a phone conversation with Constand's mother some time after the alleged attack in which he said of his contact with Constand: "It was digital penetration." That statement forms the basis for the felony charge he is now facing with a 12-year statute of limitations. Castor recalled his office primarily looking at misdemeanor charges in 2005 because Constand recalled only that she had been groped. The criminal affidavit filed against Cosby on Wednesday includes constand's mother's statements to police about that phone call and Cosby's description of the sexual encounter. The district attorney's office reopened Cosby's case just three days after a federal judge unsealed portions of the deposition transcript in July. "Reopening this case was not a question," Steele said Wednesday. "Rather, reopening this case was our duty as law enforcement officers." Cosby's lawyers are likely to fight any effort to introduce the deposition transcript at a trial. They have argued in separate legal proceedings that it was improperly released this summer and remains subject to a confidentiality agreement the comedian signed with Constand in settling their civil suit. "The evidence is strong and sufficient to proceed," Steele said Wednesday. "We made this determination that it was the right thing to do." "Father of the year" and roll model ... oops, role model ... is in big trouble as his own words are being used as evidence against him.
A link to accounts by women of what they allege Cosby did to them. http://www.vulture.com/2014/09/timeline-of-the-abuse-charges-against-cosby.html After reading these accounts I wonder why Cosby's MO is so diverse in these accounts. Everything from threatening verbally to, showing them a pill that would supposedly 'relax' them to taking a drink of any number of substances (wine, Coke, Champagne) and then saying they passed out. One woman said he drugged and raped her. From these accounts, one would think that Cosby is a walking pharmacy able to administer the 'right' drug depending on circumstances. If true, he would be the worst serial rapist in our time. Here is one story that, IMO, challenges authenticity. Margie Shapiro says she met Cosby while she was working at a doughnut shop in 1975. She says he took her to a "game house," where he challenged her to a game of pinball the loser had to take a pill. She took it, and claims she woke up the next morning naked, with Cosby inside of her. "loser had to take a pill?" That one is hard to believe. I'm not convinced that Cosby did any of this however, IF he did....I'd say lock him up and throw away the key.
For Shame for Shame is about all I can add.I heard yesterday that the number of women coming forward in a He Said,She said is like 50. Therefore the rationale behind The Drudge Reports header. I had no idea over the years that Bill Cosby { my hero in high school along with Marlon Brando or Terry Malloy } had a personality problem.Terry Malloy saw the light. Again ... the tipoff for me was when I read the Christopher Lawford's { son of Peter Lawford and a Kennedy } book - Symptoms of Withdrawal -. Christopher went on to beat drug addiction { Heroine,Boozing and Cocaine }. Peter had a big problem with Boozing and Coke.The tipoff was when Bill Cosby was entering the L.A. Playboy club where Father Peter was allowed to use a private bungalow.Peter ended up using it to drink himself into a stupor,until his money and Vodka ran out.He was seen talking to the squirrels.Grew a beard and left a metal trash container filled neary to the top with empty vodka bottles.Son Christopher had arrived at the Playboy Mansion to pick up his father.Hugh Hefner politealy called Christopher and asked him to kindly take his father home.Peter Lawford was broke and jobless.No longer was wanted by even his boozing Hollywood buddies.So when Christopher Lawford went to pick up his father and was waiting on the front porch of the Playboy Mansion with his father to say goodbye to Hefner and thank Him,up struts Bill Cosby with a girl in tow.Pointed to Peter and made some snide comment as he entered the Club/Mansion. Something about ... Look at that Guy. { I'll come back and post the exact comment when I find it. }. The book by Christopher Lawford has no index.He purposedly didn't want people to buy his book so they could just find their names in it.Thankfully that would have helped Bill Cosby.But no longer.The He Said,She is now ... ALL She Daid,He Said. Look for Cosby who got TOO cute by Half over the years to go the way of O.J. Simpson and Phil Specter. There's a lesson to be learnt. There but for the Grace of God,Go I. I wonder how many times Bill Cosby prayed for a piece of ass. No I doesn't.
Bill Cosby Free On $1 Million Bail After Sexual Assault Charge...... http://uverse.com/watch/h___60667618?ref=yfp Whats funny is how they call him the Man.....who once personified Family Values on Television.
Notice how The 'Cos made a point of wearing a Hoodie.I bet he was prepped to wear that outfit.In fairness Bill Cosby was always a sweater or gym sweatshirt guy { most typical a Temple University Basketball Sweatshirt }.I bet he wore more sweaters on The Cosby Show than ALL The TV Fathers of Television. I remember once lecturing a Black buddy of mine about Sweaters in Winter.I used to say what No sweater again.He just refused to own or wear a sweater.I wondered where he learned that.Didn't as a kid he ever get a sweater for Christmas.I guess not.I could not convince him of the beauty of wearing a sweater in Winter.So naturally I would bring up the Black Hero { Bill Cosby }.To no avail. I think it is quite possible for The ' Cos to pull a Roman Polanski.He's had plenty of time to make arrangements as to where to hide out and when to flee.Probably some place in South America.I cannot see a U.S. Icon like Bill Cosby spending his swan years in a 6 by 8 steel cell.
