mongols invaded Europe

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  1. hkisdog

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    Did mongol have any big loses/ defeats in Europe?

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    Chinese were the lowest class in all places ruled by mongol
    Empire.

    Before mongols, jurchen was the master of china.
    After mongol, china wad ruled by manchus for 300 years till 1911.
     
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    After mongol, china was ruled by manchus for 300 years till 1911.
     
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    No the Mongols had no major defeats in Europe.

    The Mongols withdrew from Europe after their leader died and by tradition they had to return home to elect another one.
     
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    YOU need to study some Russian history.
    Kazan, the capitol of the Golden Horde as theirs were called.
    The Russians had a system of paying tribute to the Khan until, they didn't.

    G'luck.
    Please share what you learn about the Russian defeats on Mongols.

    A leftover may be that to this day, Russians may find Black people exotic and beautiful, while
    any Asiatic features are detested, criticized, treated with prejudice.
    Some Turk friends prefer to change planes in Tehran and not Moscow because of poor service to them, personally.



    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


     
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    The Mongols were militarily far far ahead of any of the armies in Europe.

    In fact some military tactics pioneered by the Mongol horde were never topped up until WW2.
     
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    Russia is its own unique entity. I don't consider it when I say "Europe".
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Mongol_invasion_of_Hungary
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    The results of the invasion could not have contrasted more sharply with those of the 1241 invasion. The invasion was repelled handily, and the Mongols lost much of their invading force due to several months of starvation, numerous small raids, and two major military defeats. This was mostly thanks to the new fortification network and the military reforms. No major invasion of Hungary would be launched after the failure of the campaign of 1285, though small raids from the Golden Horde were frequent well into the 14th century. Less than two years later, the Third Mongol invasion of Poland occurred. This invasion was also repulsed, with the Poles using a similar strategy to the Hungarians in 1285.
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    Mongols never really ruled Russia.

    Spanish were ruled by blacks for 700 years.
    and Spanish are all dark people now.
    1000 mongols could ruled spain for 1000 years for sure.


    in Vietnam war, USA send many blacks and Spanish to the front, they were treated equally.

    And Russian look like European 100%.

    you, Moi621, look like a beautiful black person. I suggest you read your own history first.
     
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    Russia was the leader of Europe for many years. Alexander I


    Spanish were ruled by blacks for 700 years.
    and Spanish are all dark people now.
    1000 mongols could ruled spain for 1000 years for sure.

    in Vietnam war, USA send many blacks and Spanish to the front, they were treated equally.
     
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    Please check a map of Russia circa 1250.
    Alexander Nevsky and all that.
     
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    yeah 100% :roll:
     
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    you are right! lol

    Anyway, there are millions European, American look like that.
    the percentage of pure European looking Russian is not lower than any EU countries and USA.


    since there are a lot of mixed marriages and blacks and wahterever in EU and USA.
     
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    1) Let's say Spanish were directly ruled by blacks for 700 years.

    Russia was indirectly ruled by mongols for 200 years.


    There were no mongol army in Russia in most of the time.

    so who is purer?

    2) Putin does not look a pure European,

    but in USA, there are 40 millions blacks

    blacks.jpg .

    and tens millions white American look like that one.

    black american.jpg
     

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    I really think Russians are more mongolised than Americans are negrofied and Australians are Australised.

    Russians have 4 to 11% asian DNA. Americans are guttering at about 1% negro DNA. Australians are far to beaten down to know what our DNA is. Arabs are up to 18% negro DNA.
     
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    Correct.
     
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    there are 13% of people in America are blacks,
    and at least 10% of white American are mixed,

    unless you think that two "white American" in my post are pure whites.

    Also whites is going to the minority in London soon, a little over 50% of people in London are whitea.
    and America will be a white minority country in 35 years, if you do not change the current policy.

    anyway, Russian are far more whiter than spain. spain is half black at least.

    The problem is that there are 5 million chinese in Russia, most chinese come to Russia illegally, Russian must kick them out,
     
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    The Rus were mongolised. The English are segragating. All the difference.
     
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    ok, then how about spainish?

    and how about there are so many of mixed marriages in UK and US.
    since you can not separate whites and blacks and Indian in US and UK.


    The so called segregating is not even possible.

    I visited London, I saw many beautiful British women have an indian husband.
    If there is no separation, then UK/US will be the next indian in future, whites + blacks = brown.

    no one was able to defeat mongols.
    if mongol was not stopped by the vast Russian land and the Russian winter.
    all Europe could be mongolised.

    Russia was ruled by mongols indirectly.

    Mongols killed 50% of chinese, and chinese were the lowest class slaves in mongol Empires.
    spain was ruled by blacks for 700 years.
     
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    I don't know the percent of negro DNA in the average Spanish. It could be comparable to the pecentage of asian DNA in Russians.

    you are Slavic right?:roflol:
     
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    No, I am not Slavic. I like Slavic women, they are beautiful.
     
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    Yes, that's so true. Slavic news ladies are so beautiful.
     
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    Historians credit the Mongol regime with developing Muscovy as a state. Under Mongol occupation, Muscovy developed its postal road network, census, fiscal system, and military organization. Just as India and Hong Kong prospered under British rule, Russia somewhat benefited from being ruled by the Mongol overlords in its development towards a nation state, and history shows that the colonizers have always been culturally superior to the colonized.

     
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    I think he looks French.

    I mean you can almost HEAR him saying, "what does he know of life, eh?" Jesus, all he needs is the cigaret
     

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