FACT testosterone linked to iolent crime FACT Blacks have more testosterone

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Sab, Sep 27, 2015.

  1. Sab

    Sab Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2013
    Messages:
    3,414
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    38
    It is demonstable that Black people, especially black people who are part of the new world diaspora (ie slave descendents) have higher levels of testosterone. Its also a fact that high levels of testosterone are linked to violent crime ..especially rape.. but also athletic acheivement

    So Its hardly suprising that black people commit vastly more ,per capita, violent crime espcecially rape butalsodominate athletics. Look at Tiny Jamaica, the fastest men people in the world come from there nbut its violent crime is through the roof.
     
  2. Egalitarianjay02

    Egalitarianjay02 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2014
    Messages:
    2,289
    Likes Received:
    131
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    You didn't provide any evidence for your claim and this subject has been discussed here before.


     
  3. DarkSkies

    DarkSkies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    4,522
    Likes Received:
    583
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The most violent places in the world are Southern and Central American countries. Do these inhabitants by chance have higher levels of testosterone than black people?


    Please consider adding this as a disclaimer whenever you post about "Black violence and testosterone."
     
  4. QLB

    QLB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2015
    Messages:
    11,696
    Likes Received:
    2,019
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We both agree to high rate of criminality among Blacks, a phenomena that has been well known for decades in the US. But it's not testosterone and it's not that simple. Variances are within the statistical norm, and you don't know that age cohort or where they were taken. Too many variables to count with that analysis.
     
  5. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,529
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Africa is close on their heels. Well, those of the African countries that actually keep records of anything.
     
  6. DarkSkies

    DarkSkies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    4,522
    Likes Received:
    583
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not really. Honduras, the murder capital of the world, has a murder rate at least twice that of African countries.
     
  7. QLB

    QLB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2015
    Messages:
    11,696
    Likes Received:
    2,019
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Probably not true considering the record keeping in many African countries.
     
  8. DarkSkies

    DarkSkies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    4,522
    Likes Received:
    583
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Vigilante justice keeps violent crimes down, so I doubt record keeping has anything to do with the numbers.
     
  9. QLB

    QLB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2015
    Messages:
    11,696
    Likes Received:
    2,019
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Some of these places are pretty isolated and won't see the equivalent of a LEO for weeks at a time. I once had a guy tell me about the proper procedure on how to feed a body to a croc. He told me that crocs don't like to eat shoes especially tennis shoes and they had to be removed. You simply don't know what happens out there.
     
  10. DarkSkies

    DarkSkies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    4,522
    Likes Received:
    583
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We have cases like that here in this country too. Baby, Jane, & John Does turn up and go missing in the hundreds of thousands every year. Can't really count the crime without the body & investigation *shrug*.
     
  11. QLB

    QLB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2015
    Messages:
    11,696
    Likes Received:
    2,019
    Trophy Points:
    113
    But they're counted here with the knowledge that a certain percentage of them were murdered and that number is not in the hundreds of thousands. In the Jess, there's just nothing. A burial is just as likely to involve leaving them out in the bush for the hyenas. Do you what happens to albino's out there.
     
  12. DarkSkies

    DarkSkies Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    4,522
    Likes Received:
    583
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The stew and magic, yes I know. That won't stop the vigilantes from eventually putting a stop to it. Anyway, the amount of albinos killed versus those people killed in the Americas is of no comparison whatsoever. Albinos in TZ killed ~170 versus Honduras running through 20 people a day.
     
  13. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,823
    Likes Received:
    63,171
    Trophy Points:
    113
    so people with big organs are better at sports, but also more violent? guess size does matter.... or someone with a "little" envy is writing the report :)

    physically strong people tend to be more violent then physically weak people... is it the strength or the testosterone though


    .
     
  14. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 18, 2009
    Messages:
    30,444
    Likes Received:
    6,429
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Fact: I don't think you understand what the word "fact" means.
     
  15. ryobi

    ryobi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2013
    Messages:
    3,250
    Likes Received:
    374
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    When the results of scientific studies don’t support my beliefs, I don’t reject the findings, I change my beliefs. What do you do?

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2608588/

    Racial differences in the androgen/androgen receptor pathway in prostate cancer.

    Abstract
    Pathologic and epidemiologic data suggest that while little racial variation exists in prostate cancer prevalence ("autopsy cancer"), striking racial variation exists for the clinically diagnosed form of the disease. A review of the available literature was performed to define whether racial differences in serum androgen levels or qualitative or quantitative differences in the androgen receptor were correlated with prostate cancer incidence or severity. Black men were found to be exposed to higher circulating testosterone levels from birth to about age 35 years. Such differences were not consistently noted among older men. Significant differences also were found for dihydrotestosterone metabolites among black, white, and Asian men. Unique racial genetic polymorphisms were noted for the gene for 5 alpha-reductase type 2 among black and Asian men. Novel androgen receptor mutations recently have been described among Japanese, but not white, men with latent prostate cancer. Finally, androgen receptor gene polymorphisms leading to shorter or longer glutamine and glycine residues in the receptor protein are correlated with racial variation in the incidence and severity of prostate cancer. This same polymorphism also could explain racial variation in serum prostate-specific antigen levels. Collectively, these data strongly suggest racial differences within the androgen/androgen receptor pathway not only exist but could be one cause of clinically observed differences in the biology of prostate cancer among racial groups.

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/strange-but-true-testosterone-alone-doesnt-cause-violence/
    Strange but True: Testosterone Alone Does Not Cause Violence

    "[Historically,] researchers expected an increase in testosterone levels to inevitably lead to more aggression, and this didn't reliably occur," says Frank McAndrew, a professor of psychology at Knox College in Galesburg, Ill. Indeed, the latest research about testosterone and aggression indicates that there's only a weak connection between the two. And when aggression is more narrowly defined as simple physical violence, the connection all but disappears"What psychologists and psychiatrists say is that testosterone has a facilitative effect on aggression," comments Melvin Konner, an anthropologist at Emory University and author of The Tangled Wing: Biological Constraints on the Human Spirit. "You don't have a push-pull, click-click relationship where you inject testosterone and get aggressiveness."

    Castration experiments demonstrate that testosterone is necessary for violence, but other research has shown that testosterone is not, on its own, sufficient. In this way, testosterone is less a perpetrator and more an accomplice—one that's sometimes not too far from the scene of the crime.

    For example: regardless of their gender, the most violent prisoners have higher levels of testosterone than their less violent peers. Yet scientists hypothesize that this violence is just one manifestation of the much more biologically and reproductively salient goal of dominance.

    Arguably, the weak correlation between testosterone and violence gives us reason to be optimistic about the human race: Whereas other animals battle over mates as a direct result of their seasonal fluctuations in testosterone and other hormones, humans have discovered other ways to establish pecking orders. Which isn't to say that we can't rapidly adapt to the modern-day manifestations of our violent past: McAndrews's work demonstrated that one surefire way to raise a man's testosterone level is to allow him to handle a gun.
     
  16. ProbablyOffendingYou

    ProbablyOffendingYou Newly Registered

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2016
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Greetings Egalitarian Quacks, I was invited to your sermon by the priest Egalitarianjay02 to argue against your creationist style world view.
     
  17. ProbablyOffendingYou

    ProbablyOffendingYou Newly Registered

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2016
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Epic non-sequitur, learning disability causes violence, learning disability is directly evidenced from high pubertal testosterone, which blacks genetically suffer from.

    Higher educated blacks had similar testosterone profiles to whites.

    Therefore, the census conclusion should be: the reason for high black crime rates, learning disabilities, et al...genetics.

    Experiments need to be run on pubescent black transgender women taking chemical castration agents for improved black IQ scores.
     
  18. ProbablyOffendingYou

    ProbablyOffendingYou Newly Registered

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2016
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    What a worthless study, this found obese blacks with heart disease only had slightly higher testosterone than whites? Obesity reduces testosterone.

    What about the non-obese 70IQ violent and dangerous wild zoo-escaped bucks running around the inner city, consistently showing testosterone levels up to 20% higher than the general populace.
     

Share This Page