Netanyahu: Palestinian mufti, not Hitler, wanted to exterminate Jews

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    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Tuesday blamed Palestinian religious leaders for the Holocaust, raising tensions further after almost three weeks of unrest in Israel and the Palestinian territories.

    His comments were made during an address to the 37th Zionist Congress and came after a day of violence that saw five Palestinians, including alleged attackers, killed in the occupied territories and an Israeli killed in a traffic incident in the West Bank.

    In his speech, Netanyahu focused on incitement, saying Palestinian incitement could be traced back to before the creation of the Israeli state, and claiming that a Palestinian religious leader had encouraged Adolf Hitler to carry out the Holocaust.

    The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, "flew to Berlin," Netanyahu said. "Hitler didn’t want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jews."

    "And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, 'If you expel them, they'll all come here.' 'So what should I do with them?' he asked. He said, 'Burn them.'"

    Netanyahu's claim is dismissed by most Holocaust scholars, who insist the first death camps were formed before the 1941 meeting between Husseini and Hitler. However, the idea is promoted by a few fringe researchers, Haaretz reported.
    Author Zaid Jilani pointed out in an article that there were several historical references to the Nazis' "final solution" and even moves to implement the Holocaust months before the meeting.

    "This statement is almost too absurd to debunk," Jilani wrote.

    "The killing centres in Poland were organised under so-called Operation Reinhard, and work on these units began in October 1941, a month before the Mufti visited Jerusalem."

    http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/b...-killed-after-new-alleged-stabbing-1527129896

    So there we have it. If there were/are any doubts that (neo)Zionism and Hitler fascism were/are were ideologically aligned then Bibi's latest vile comments dispel the uncertainties. Netanyahu outrageous speech effectively lets Hitler off the hook with the aim of putting the blame for the suffering of the Jews and Hitler's Final Solution on the shoulders of the Palestinian people so as to self- justify his continued obliteration of them: http://www.pmo.gov.il/English/MediaCenter/Speeches/Pages/speechcongress201015.aspx

    Let there be no mistake that principally there is no ideological difference between (neo)Zionism and fascism.
     
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    I don't believe him.
     
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    When Ahmadinijad allegedly denied the Holocaust there was legitimate uproar and worldwide condemnation. Now that Netanyahu has negated the responsibility for the Holocaust on Hitler, nether he, or his fellow Jewish extremist fundamentalists have any wiggle room with which to critique Holocaust deniers ever again.
     
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    Spain was willing to take in German Jews for a price... The Mufti worked to make that happen.. The Zionists opposed that solution.

    The population of Palestine had already double with the influx of European Jews.. so the Palestinians had become strangers in their own land..

    The Mufti wanted to stop the flood of refugees to avoid the problem that you now see.

    Bibi is an SOB.. rewriting history.. and what a time to do it..

    Chaim Weizmann tried to forcibly deport the rest of the Palestinians in 1949-1950.. He wanted KSA, which was still a poor country, to take them in and the US to pay for it.
     
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    What Netanyahu's outrageous speech highlights is the historical continuum between Zionism and fascism. It's disgraceful that he is effectively denying the culpability for the Holocaust of Jews on Hitler and instead blaming the Palestinian's. He is doing this for political purposes so as to justify on his terms the continued bolstering of Palestinian oppression.
     
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    Who the hell overheard that conversation, and how has that now been established as fact after 75 years?

    Now if I was going to pander to any conspiracy around the holocaust, it would be that without it there would be no Israel.
     
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    Indeed. Netanyahu's rewriting of history will not work. What he is attempting to do is akin to the false propaganda espoused by fascist Holocaust deniers. Netanyahu is going to have some difficulty explaining how it's possible to have a record of an alleged conversation between the Mufti and Hitler in which it is claimed the former initiated the Holocaust given that Hitler's final solution was planned in 1939. This was two years before Hitler and the Mufti met in 1941....LOL
     
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    Bibi is a liar and a moron
     
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    Hitler's plan was already in place by the time they met. More lies from freedom and peace hating Zionists.
     
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    Bibi is using Hitler's techniques.. Lying and playing fast and loose with history.

    I wonder if he is mentally ill.
     
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    The right wingers are going to ignore Bibi's lies instead of condemning them.
     
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    Yep. Just like the time when Bibi boasted about derailing Oslo, they will shut their eyes and block their ears.
     
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    ? He has negated nothing about Hitler's responsibility for the Holocaust. Even in Netanyahu vision, if someone suggested to Hitler to kill the Jews instead of expelling them [personally I think that Hitler was already thinking to the "final solution" on large scale, anyway] ... Adolf Hitler remains absolutely responsible for what he and his regime did.
     
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    Its a shame that the refugees didn't go to Spain.. More could have been saved.. Sweden and Switzerland took in huge numbers.. Of course the Israelis killed Count Bernadotte for his troubles.

    It seems like the perfect storm to me. Zionism has done as much harm as it has good.. It should pass into history.
     
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    If the Mufti wanted to stop the flood of refugees he had to discuss the matter with the British authorities, not to go to Germany. London was managing the immigration to Palestine in those years.

    It's evident that he knew the Brits thought otherwise ...
     
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    Correct. Netanyahu needs to be told.
     
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    You mean Islam and Nazis
     
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    He tried, but the Zionist gangs had already killed over 500 British Peackeepers.. All the Brits wanted by WW2 was to get the h3ll out of Palestine.

    Hitler only met with the Mufti for ten minutes and he wouldn't shake the Mufti's hand.. Bibi is a real liar.
     
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    Nope. You are able to read are you not?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Compare that to the way the Zionists collaborated with Hitler.
     
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    I know.. the Zionists had also blown up the SS Patria refugee ship in Haifa Harbor and killed over 500 British peacekeepers.
     
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    Nice to see that you share my perspective, so that I suppose you agree with what Netanyahu has just said [to make it clear what has always been clear].

    http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=29099
     
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    Why such a long journey for such a brief meeting?

    About this, I note with pleasure a quite balanced stance offered by The Jewishvirtuallibrary http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/muftihit.html
     
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    He had no intention despite the fact that he said it....LOL Oh and he then retracted following the worldwide condemnation including from Jewish groups...Very convenient. The damage has been done. He said it and it's now part of the historical record. There's nothing to be surprised of since historically and ideologically Zionism and Hitler fascism are like two peas in a pod.
     
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    At best, he's mistaken. At worst, he's lying. Either way, this is not as outrageous as you are making it seem. Heinrich Himmler devised and implemented the final solution, but that does not mean that Hitler wasn't responsible for it.
     
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    Yes and i saw no connection between Zionism and fascism but I do see one between the Mufti and Hitler

    Compare that to how the Mufti collaborated with Hitler.

    He also raised Muslim SS divisions
     

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